Nov 7, 2024
Trump Names CHIEF OF STAFF
President-elect Donald Trump has chosen his campaign manager Susie Wiles to be his White House chief of staff.
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When it comes to chief of staff,
the name Siouxsie Wiles.
The folks haven't become
familiar with Siouxsie.
She was sort of
the behind the scenes operator
Co-campaign manager for Donald Trump.
The last two years.
We've been used to palace intrigue stories
when it comes to Donald Trump's
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campaigns and the white House.
She was somebody here who very
much allowed anybody that wanted access
to Donald Trump to have that access,
some of the more of the right wing
provocateurs, you could call them,
but as well as sort of
the mainstream conservatives,
everybody who I have talked to over
the last two years has been very happy
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with the role she played in not trying
to keep anybody away from Donald Trump,
but allowing it to be sort of a big tent,
not only a Mar-A-Lago,
but on the campaign trail.
This is pretty big news.
Donald Trump has, in fact, named
Siouxsie Wiles as his chief of staff.
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Now, of course,
Donald Trump is president elect.
He won the 2024 presidential election.
And this is big news, not only because
we're learning details about what Trump
intends to do once he's in office,
but because she would be the first woman
to ever hold the title
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of white House chief of staff.
Now Siouxsie Wiles worked as a Republican
consultant for Donald Trump's 2016
presidential campaign and played a key
role, along with Chris Wilder, in helping
Trump win the 2024 presidential election.
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Look, she is smart and she's savvy
and she's strategic.
She, along with Chris Lacivita,
managed to rein in some of the more
deranged characteristics
of Donald Trump on the campaign trail.
Not always, certainly, but she has been
credited for professionalizing his 2024
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presidential run, certainly in comparison
to previous presidential runs.
And so I've got a few more details
about her in just a moment.
But I got to ask you, Jake,
do you think that Trump named a woman
thus making history as having the first
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female white House chief of staff
as like a middle finger to Democrats
and what they were claiming about,
like, I'm wondering
if that's why he did it.
I mean, I think she's actually qualified
for the job she has delivered for him.
So that definitely informed his decision.
That might have been a small part of it,
but, no, I think the main reason
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is because she got him a win
in the election and she earned it.
And she is, by all accounts,
enormously competent.
And you don't see me saying that about
anyone involved in politics much at all.
And I'm not just saying that
now that Trump won.
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This just happened
right before we got on air,
which we pulled the tape for you guys.
We had a conversation about her
about 4 to 6 months ago where we said,
wow, Siouxsie Wiles is doing a great job
for Trump's campaign.
Yes, you remember that?
- Of course I do.
- Yeah.
And so now why do we say that?
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Because we like Siouxsie Wiles and we like
Donald Trump, and we want them to win.
No, we're giving you honest analysis.
We said, watch out.
She's running a great campaign.
I'm worried about it.
Right.
So she seems to be incredibly competent.
The problem is that she's competent
in a direction we're not happy with.
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So if she's as good at this job
as she was as campaign manager
for Donald Trump, watch out.
So they will be able to get
a lot of things done.
And we're not in favor
of any of those things.
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So. But but it does make Mark Cuban's
comment seem even more absurd.
That's what I was referring to when I
said, you know, is this like a middle
finger to Mark Cuban and the Democrats?
- You know.
- But even if it isn't a middle finger.
- Mark Cuban deserves one.
- I agree, because.
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At the time he made the comment,
Siouxsie Wiles was in the middle of
running a great campaign for Donald Trump,
and you've seen me tear into Trump
time and time again,
including in the last two stories we did.
But did he pick a competent woman
to run his campaign?
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Did he say,
of all the people in the world,
I'm going to pick a woman and not a man?
He did.
He did. Facts are stubborn things.
So a few more details
about Siouxsie Wiles.
So in the 2023 federal indictment
of Donald Trump for mishandling
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the classified documents,
a person was mentioned but not named.
And that person was, you know,
labeled PAC representative.
And it turns out that that PAC
representative was Siouxsie Wiles.
She was overseeing
the pro-Trump PAC at the time.
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And, basically, according to ABC,
news sources have said
that the person is Siouxsie Wiles.
After the indictment,
ProPublica documented an increase
in payments to Wiles and the hiring of her
daughter as part of a pattern of other
Trump staffers who have been subpoenaed
as part of the investigation into Trump
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receiving significant financial benefits.
She denied knowing that it was a best
practice for witnesses in an investigation
concerning their boss or client
to not appear like they're
receiving special treatment,
and denied ever taking or talking to Trump
about her testimony in that investigation
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regarding the classified documents case.
Look, I agree with you.
I think that Trump chose her specifically
because of the fact that she helped him
run a better campaign this time around.
She also helped, Ron DeSantis run for
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governor in 2018, and obviously he won.
They later had a falling out
because of the fact that Trump
had a bit of a tiff with Ron DeSantis,
so she was let go by Ron DeSantis.
So, you know, there's all
this politics involved in that.
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But at the end of the day,
she delivered for Trump.
And I think that is what informed
his decision to choose her
as a white House chief of staff.
The question is, though, will she
be able to rein in his more destructive
characteristics in the white House,
the way that she was able to
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while he was on the campaign trail.
Yeah.
So that's such a critical question,
because part of that answer
is definitively no.
The question is, if the other half is a
yes or no, so will she be able to get him
to stop saying crazy things?
No chance. That's not possible.
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There's no force on earth can contain
Donald Trump from saying unhinged things.
Okay,
so that but that's not that important.
What's important like that?
That horse is already out of the barn,
and you're never going
to put it back in like, oh,
he's spreading fear and hatred, etc..
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Yeah, he's and he's going
to keep on spreading it.
There's nothing you could do about it.
He won.
Okay.
So, the question is, will she be
able to rein him in if he suggests
doing something maniacal in office?
So I'll give you an example.
In his first term, he suggested to his
staff that we ten x our nuclear arsenal.
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Okay.
He said, go do it.
That would bankrupt the country.
It's not even close.
It's the most expensive thing
you could possibly imagine.
His staff ignored him,
and because it was a ridiculous request.
And that's the famous meeting
that his secretary of state at the time,
Rex Tillerson, comes out of and goes,
this guy's an effing moron.
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- I have a.
- Procedural question about that, though.
So if the president says
I want a ten x our nuclear arsenal.
Okay.
Is he able to unilaterally do that
without Congress
because you would need funding to do that?
- No, you.
- Would have to set up a plan.
Hey, we got to go to Congress.
How are we going to go to Congress?
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What can we do with executive orders?
What can we what do we need
legislation for?
I mean,
that's a whole giant process normally.
Right.
But they didn't
even do first step, one of it.
And Trump didn't even notice
because he's not that bright.
Right.
So and I can give you a dozen
more examples like this.
So the case like that,
the Siouxsie Wiles go.
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Yes, sir.
We will now increase the nuclear arsenal
tenfold because you're anti-war.
And so and then go proceed
to bankrupt the country and be really
good and competent in doing that.
Or will she find a way to make sure
that we don't do something nuts, right?
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If she finds a way of assuaging Trump
but preventing things that are nuts,
then great that I'm happy that we have
a you're not going to get a good person
that you love and is not corrupt
as Trump's chief of staff.
That's not in the equation.
So what's in the equation
is lunatic or non lunatic
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competent or not competent right.
Yeah.
So overall, given that she seems to live
in this reality based world
to the best of our ability to discern
from the outside, not a bad pick.
He could have picked like, you know, Corey
Lewandowski, Donald Trump junior, he could
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have picked Bozo one or Bozo two, right?
In fact, Siouxsie Wiles and Chris Lacivita
convinced Trump to get rid of Corey
Lewandowski during the 2024 presidential
campaign, which is a good sign.
Again, reiterating, you know, it's not
that we agree with them policy wise,
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but there's the Corey Lewandowski's.
And then there's the you know,
Siouxsie Wiles who's been a consultant
for Republicans since the late 1970s.
You get what I mean.
What I mean, there are two
different types of Republicans.
Yeah.
Last two things here,
downside and upside of this story, too.
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So one of the downsides
you should know is these guys and Siouxsie
Wiles is part of it for sure,
as Anna partly explained there.
And Kellyanne Conway is a part of it.
There's this whole industrial complex.
We're going to explain in a minute to you,
lobbying industrial complex
that is already pigs at the trough,
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ready to dive in and just take, take, take
everything from the federal government
for all of Trump's donors.
Right.
Siouxsie Wiles will be very competent
in executing that
and make sure that they rob us as cleanly
and efficiently as they possibly can.
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So don't get excited.
Like, oh yay, Siouxsie Wiles!
No, no.
She will make sure that they
take every nickel that the U.S.
Taxpayers have. So that's the downside.
Okay, But, one other upside is of Trump.
And yes, I just said
that he has 200 downsides.
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But one of the upsides is he likes things
that are demonstrably good for him.
Okay, so Siouxsie Wiles,
you won me the election.
Okay. I promote you to chief of staff.
Okay, so if things make him unpopular,
it's possible that he'll go.
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Nah, I don't like that. I fire you, right?
Oh, you made me more popular.
I like that I keep you.
Right. So that's your only hope here.
And if you're.
If that's your hope,
having someone who is not deranged
as chief of staff is not such a bad thing.
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So that's your mixed record
on Siouxsie Wiles.
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