Nov 7, 2024
REPORT: Biden's Team STILL Thinks He Would've Beaten Trump
Joe Biden’s closest aides and staffers still insist he would have won the election if he would have continued his race against President-elect Donald Trump.
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The question was President Biden,
what were you thinking,
ever running for reelection?
Let's be clear.
If Biden had stayed in the race,
as some are saying,
maybe he should have stayed there.
He almost certainly
would have done worse than Harris.
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So for anyone suggesting
that the Democrats lost because Biden
dropped out, that is a fantasy.
The issue is that Biden probably
never should have run in the first place.
While many in the Democratic Party
and even members of Kamala Harris's
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own team lay a lot of blame on Joe Biden
for the electoral loss
that Democrats experienced this week,
it turns out that the president's own team
is actually pointing fingers
right back at them.
So according to Biden's biographer,
Franklin Foer, some of his closest
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confidants are still under the impression
that if Biden had just stayed in the race,
Democrats would have been victorious.
He would have been elected
for a second term.
And in a piece for The Atlantic titled
Why Biden's Team Thinks Harris Lost For,
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writes that members of Biden's clan
continue to stoke the delusion
that Biden would have won the election,
and some of his advisers feared
that he might publicly voice
that deeply misguided view.
Now for says that Biden's
advisers were reluctant
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to say anything negative about Harris.
But Biden advisers did level critiques
at her campaign based on the months
they'd spent, strategizing in anticipation
of the election.
Embedded in their autopsies
was their own unstated faith
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that they could have done better.
Now they look, I think some
of the critiques are on the note,
like they're right.
Kamala Harris was doing okay
in the beginning of her campaign.
Yes.
Part of it had to do with the excitement,
but part of it also had to do
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with her message.
And then she changed her message
to a pro-business, more moderate message
in regard to economic policies.
So let's just show that Trump
was clearly ahead in the polls
when when Biden was in the race.
So before I get to, you know,
some of this other stuff and go to you,
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Jake, like, let's take a look at this.
The New York Times poll on the day that
Biden dropped out, had him losing by three
points nationally and getting wrecked
in the battleground states.
Let's take a look at the other wrecked.
Absolutely.
A New York Times Siena College poll found
Trump was ahead of Biden by six percentage
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points among likely voters, and eight
points ahead among registered voters.
And then, on top of which,
let's look at the other graph here.
In a July Gallup poll, Biden received a
36% job approval rating from the American
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people, and that was his lowest ever.
The majority of Americans, 58%,
Disapproved of the job that Biden was
doing, so it remains to be seen
how Biden or his staffers could think that
he would have won this election right now.
His popularity has ticked back
up slightly to an underwhelming 41%.
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- So, Jake.
- Yeah, so fair show in America.
So I'm actually going
to give a tiny bit of credit
to the Biden staffers in a minute.
Okay. But first, a lot of discredit.
So they I want you to notice
in the first thing that I read,
you guys, the Biden advisers are split.
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Half of them are saying, oh, please don't
say it out loud, that we would have won.
That's really embarrassing.
Don't don't do that.
It'll just make it worse
for your legacy because they're trying
to look out for him.
Right.
So I don't know which ones are which.
So I don't know who to give
credit to on that side.
But the other half are the deluded ones
who are like, oh, we would have won.
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Remember the garbage comment
that Biden made, you know,
4 or 5 days before the election?
If you watch that whole clip,
it's not just that he called Trump
supporters garbage, I think by accident.
But he's like, and then what?
Rally Puerto Rico.
It was a disaster.
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Garbage. He can't speak anymore.
He's.
He would have fallen apart at the seams.
He might have lost.
I think he would have lost
about 40 states.
He might have lost them all
because he couldn't speak at the end.
You can't vote for a guy who, you
know with absolute certainty is senile.
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Right. So. And losing by eight nationally.
Come on. Come on.
Losing by seven points.
And it would have only gotten worse,
not better.
Because every time he came out to speak,
imagine they would have done
another debate.
No, but come on.
That delusion
is what kept him in the race.
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First of all, that delusion led him
to run for reelection in the first place,
which he should not have done.
Okay.
That delusion led him to remain
in the race as long as he did,
thus depriving Democratic voters
of an opportunity to engage
in a robust primary process
and pick a candidate that they wanted,
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rather than a candidate who was anointed.
And look, who knows, it might
have ended up being Kamala Harris.
I doubt it, but there's a possibility.
But if it had happened the right way,
she would at least have the opportunity
to run a full campaign
as opposed to a last minute.
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There's only a few months left campaign.
That was a disaster.
Okay, there were a few highlights, a few
good moments from Kamala's campaign, but
honestly, I can count them on one hand.
In reality, she pivoted and she
pivoted real hard to an unpopular message,
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and she wouldn't get off of it.
So that was the critique that, you know,
some of these Biden staffers had.
And I want to get to that.
Are you ready for that?
- Yeah.
- No. One more thing here.
So notice that the Biden staffers
said they could have done better.
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So that's their ego talking.
They're like, oh, it doesn't matter
who the candidate is anyway.
We always use these corporate robots.
Hey, will you do everything
the donors say?
Yes, sir. Absolutely.
Okay. You're good enough.
Just bring out the widget
in the assembly line.
Biden, Harris, whatever they're called,
whatever their race is, who cares, right?
Because the advisors think
that they're in charge.
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And so they.
Well, we would have run a better race
and we would have won.
Yeah, but, brother, the candidate matters.
And besides which,
how are you doing that so far?
I mean, you were doing disastrously.
It's not like you were up by eight
when Kamala Harris took over.
You're the rocket scientist
who were down by eight.
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Yeah, right.
So now, nevertheless, to be fair to
whoever it is, on whichever side, some of
the Biden advisers apparently knew exactly
what Kamala Harris was doing wrong.
And they're right about that.
So in the beginning, you know,
not only did she have
a more economic populist message,
she would go after corporate greed, which
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did play well with Democratic voters.
But as the critics are now saying,
she made a mistake
by getting off of that message.
Harris began the campaign portraying Trump
as a stooge of corporate interests,
and touted herself
as a relentless scourge of big business.
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While Harris was stuck defending
the Biden economy and hobbled
by lingering anger over inflation.
Attacking big business
allowed her to go on the offense.
So the fact that they recognize that going
populist and attacking big business
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was the right strategy is shocking.
So apparently there's like maybe 1
or 2 smart Democrats on on earth,
or at least in leadership.
What's shocking about it,
what's shocking about it, is that they
know that that messaging works and they
they don't deliver on it once like that.
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That bothers me, right? 100%.
But not only that,
and maybe Biden prevented them.
Maybe he's the source of the problem.
But it's not like Biden
while he was in the race.
He was in the race for a long time.
It's not like he ran
an anti-big business campaign at all.
So apparently those advisers,
whoever they are, did not win the argument
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internally in the Biden team anyway.
Now then they talk about the pivot, right?
Then quite suddenly,
it's not really that sudden
when you think about the billionaire money
flowing into her campaign coffers.
But then, quite suddenly,
the strain of populism disappeared.
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One Biden aide told me that Harris steered
away from such hard edged messaging
at the urging of her brother in law,
Tony West, Uber's chief legal officer,
to win the support of CEOs.
Harris jettisoned a strong argument
that deflected attention
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from one of her weakest issues.
Instead, the campaign elevated Mark Cuban
as one of its chief surrogates,
the very sort of rich guy
she had recently attacked.
And at the end of October, The New York
Times reported that Harris had campaigned
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four times, with Liz Cheney stumping
with her more than with any other ally.
She appeared more in October
with the billionaire Mark Cuban
than with Sinn Fein.
Obviously, that's the president
of the United Auto Workers and one of
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the nation's most visible labor leaders.
Because f labor, right? Like.
Yeah, you guys nailed it.
So that analysis by whoever the Biden
advisers were were exactly correct.
It's amazing.
Yet no Democrat actually does it.
So now more on that.
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Her sister ran her 2020 campaign,
which turned into a disaster.
So here she is again.
Oh, I'm going to go to family.
Oh, in this case, it's a guy
who's basically a glorified lobbyist.
His her brother in law.
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Oh, you think that big business
should get everything?
Oh, well, okay, I will listen to you.
Family member who's a lobbyist,
and and I will funnel and I will run my
campaign saying big business is great.
I love corporate CEOs.
She bragged so much about that letter.
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Of the 90 corporate CEOs who backed her.
And in every appearance, they're like,
all the CEOs are on our side.
What happened to me Anti-big business
when she was Anti-big business?
Guys, we showed you this
on the show day to day.
Her numbers went up, up, up, up.
She was up five points nationally.
She had it.
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At one point, she got a poll
that had her up seven points.
Nationally, that was comfortable enough
to win the Electoral College.
And I said, oh my God, if we had to.
I said, do you remember?
I said, I wish the election were today
because then she would win.
From that point, she listened
to her dumb ass, corrupt brother in law,
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and she turned around and went
into Pro-corporate pro donor direction.
And it cost us everything.
So who's fault is it that we lost
the election, Biden or Kamala Harris?
Both of them.
Exactly. It's a trick question, guys.
It's both.
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Biden handed her a devastating deficit
in terms of the polling.
She climbed out of it
by running a populist campaign,
a gigantic, miraculous comeback.
And then, like a moron.
Oh, no, you can't say that
about a Democratic leader.
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We all have to cry for Kamala Harris.
No. Why don't you.
Why doesn't she take
personal responsibility?
Why is it the voters fault
and not the candidate's Candidates fault.
Democrats expect better
from your candidates.
And the same goes for Joe Biden,
who again, I want to repeat,
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should not have run for a second term.
And Karine Jean-Pierre
was asked about this.
Of course, that's the white House press
secretary about this whole situation.
You know who should take responsibility?
Who gets the blame?
Let's let's listen to what she has to say.
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A lot of criticism in the last couple of
days directly addressed at President Biden
for some of the questions
that have already been asked
running in the first place.
We're not stepping aside faster.
Some of that criticism
has also been directed at his team
and the advisers around him
for advising him to do what he did.
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- Can you address that criticism.
- To to do what he did?
Meaning, again.
Not stepping aside faster and showing
what some people say, holding folks here
in arrogance of believing he was
the only one who could beat Donald Trump.
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I mean, well, You said something
at the end that I do want to just kind
of reiterate and remind, remind folks,
and it was a good reminder to me,
which is like, look, the president,
this is the president
who has been the only person
who has been able to beat Donald Trump.
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I mean, that is true in 2020.
He was able to do that.
There were more than 20 candidates
who tried to beat him, and they he was
the one that has been able to do that.
There was a there was a cover up
in regard to Joe Biden's mental decline.
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Yes. Okay, let's let's stop.
The election is over. So let's stop.
Like, you know, walking on eggshells
because people are going to get upset.
I don't care how upset people get. Okay.
There was a cover up
by the Democratic Party
in regard to Joe Biden's mental decline.
Okay.
As a result of that,
I mean, they just sat around
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and allowed this guy to run for reelection
knowing what a freaking risk that was.
I mean, they're running around talking
about what a threat Donald Trump is
as they are carrying out
an egregious cover up.
And we're anyway, I just the
Democratic Party is super lost right now.
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Okay. They are.
And they're going to keep losing elections
if they keep, you know, engaging
in this ridiculous hive mind
and not taking personal responsibility
for the cover up itself.
The failure of the Harris campaign,
the corruption that has completely
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taken over the Democratic Party.
If none of that changes,
there's no reason to support Democrats.
What have they been offering us? Junk.
I know, so listen,
I don't want people thinking we're Monday
morning quarterbacking because right now
that's what everybody's doing.
Everyone who said Biden was going
to win now is blaming Biden.
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Everyone who said Kamala Harris was going
to win is now playing the blame game.
We told you this about a year ago.
Now I'm going to show you this tape.
And and, you know, we started this
because right now, what all these people
who are yelling at us are saying is,
oh, you know what?
Biden should have stepped down
from the race over a year ago
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so that we could have a real primary
so we could pick the best candidate.
Gee, I wonder who's been saying
that for the last year.
So let's show you the tape. See you.
I'm tired of these guys.
We're doing a petition.
And so, look, the petition is get out.
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I put it a lot more politely than that
because a lot of people
love Joe Biden for whatever reason.
They just think he's too old
and he's going to lose.
I 100% agree that he's going to lose.
So we're doing a petition.
President Biden, please drop out.
You're going to send in
a hobbled candidate who's 80 and looks
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like a wounded antelope, who's 67% of
Democratic voters say, we don't want him.
We don't want him. The guy's got to go.
That was in September of 2023.
September of 2023.
Okay.
I just and I remember people
being real upset with us.
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So angry.
Oh, you're hurting the Democratic Party
because God forbid
a political pundits do their job.
Right? Like I get it.
I get that people expect you
to actually be an operative
for one party or the other.
Okay? That's not what we do here.
We give our analysis and the fact
that that's what you were saying on air
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in September of 2023, and it would
take him nearly a year to finally
drop out of the race, is infuriating.
The cover up was happening the whole time.
But we were the bad guys, right?
It's just it's so ridiculous.
So I'm sure, though, all those pundits
that are saying he should have dropped out
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in September of 2023 are going
to come apologize to us for yelling at us
at the time and for a whole nother year.
Right?
And by the way, because of I
couldn't believe he wasn't dropping out
in an act of desperation.
As you all know, I ran
in the presidential primary against him.
A couple of the Earls
that I bought were Biden is going to lose
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comm wounded antelope.com.
Okay, so this was so obvious
as every liar on TV and every liar in
the Democratic Party was lying to you guys
about how great a shape Joe Biden was in.
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So last thing I'll read you guys is so
they, you know, we talked about Liz Cheney
and they decided to go with the
corporate CEOs and the Liz Cheney strategy
because it was such a genius move,
because they were going to get
the Republicans in the suburbs, remember?
Oh, yeah, they were going to get
the moderate Republicans.
It always works.
So let's see how that turned out.
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Let's go to Andrew Perez,
writing in rolling Stone.
Harris only received
5% of Republican votes, less than 6% Joe
Biden won in 2020 when he beat Trump,
as well as the 7% won by Hillary Clinton
in 2016 when she lost to him.
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Nailed it.
Oh, we're going to get
all those Republicans.
They love the Cheneys, and we're going
to get so many Republicans.
We don't need progressive votes.
We don't need to do the right thing.
We can still kiss our donors ass
and win because the Republicans love us.
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How'd that turn out for you?
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how much they lied to you this time?
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