Jun 16, 2025
MAGA TURNS ON TRUMP!
"America first" Republicans are not happy with President Trump and his refusal to keep the U.S. out of Israel's conflicts.
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I actually really love Trump.
I think he's a deeply humane, kind person,
and I am saying this
because I'm really afraid that my country
is going to be further weakened by this.
I think we're going to see
the end of American empire.
Obviously, other nations would like to see
that, and this is a perfect way to scuttle
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the USS America on the shoals of Iran.
But it's also going to end, I believe,
Trump's presidency effectively end it.
And and so that's why I'm saying this.
All right. So let's get into that part.
Israel's conflict with Iran is exposing
the cracks within the MAGA base.
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As we've been discussing, Trump's
loyalists have found themselves divided,
including Tucker Carlson there,
who just watched Tucker said
more about why he feels this way.
But before we get to that, Jake,
that last statement that this involvement
deeper, going deeper with Israel
could end the Trump presidency.
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Your thoughts?
Yeah, those are super strong words.
And so look,
the libertarians have left the building.
We're going to show you
some of that in a second.
They're done with Trump
and MAGA now couching it in I mean
we really love Trump and stuff.
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But but his presidency is kind of over.
Wait till you see
Marjorie Taylor Greene, by the way.
Also, Jack Posobiec,
Steve Bannon, everyone.
Not everyone, but the great majority
of MAGA and all of America.
First, some part of MAGA is Israel first.
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All of America first
is like, no to this war.
No, this is nothing new with America.
I don't want to pay for it.
We've got a lot more examples
for you guys.
Yeah.
So first up, we'll get more
of that conversation
between Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon.
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The second you get enmeshed
in a real war, not a fake.
Let's go bomb the villagers
and declare success.
We don't even have a good track record.
Like, why are the Houthis still there?
I mean, there's a whole other question,
which is how prepared is the U.S.
Military for a real conflict.
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And the answer is totally unprepared,
scary, unprepared.
I don't think people understand that.
But anyway, the only reason I'm saying any
of this is because I really, really care.
All right,
so there's Tucker talking with Bannon.
He also criticized Trump in a newsletter.
Here's what he wrote.
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While the American military may not have
physically perpetuated the assault years
of funding sending weapons to Israel,
which Donald Trump just bragged about on
Truth Social undeniably placed the U.S.
At the center of last night's event.
Politicians purporting to be America First
can't now credibly turn around
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and say they had nothing to do with it.
Donald Trump snapped back
during an interview with The Atlantic.
Well, considering that I'm the one
that developed America First,
and considering that the term
wasn't used until I came along,
I think I'm the one that decides that
for those people who say they want peace.
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You can't have peace
if Iran has a nuclear weapon.
So for all of those wonderful people
who don't want to do anything about Iran
having a nuclear weapon, that's not peace.
So then Tucker is back this time on X,
the real divide is in people,
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but isn't between people who support
Israel and people who support Iran
or the Palestinians.
The real divide is between those
who casually encourage violence
and those who seek to prevent it.
Between warmongers and peacemakers
who are the warmongers, they would include
anyone who's calling Donald Trump today
to demand airstrikes and other direct U.S.
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Military involvement in a war with Iran.
On that list, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin,
Rupert Murdoch, Ike Perlmutter,
Miriam Adelson, at some point they
will all have to answer for this,
but you should know their names now.
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And podcaster and frequent Rogan guest
Dave Smith chimed in, Did, apologizing
for backing Trump in 2024, going as far as
calling for his impeachment and removal.
Donald Trump.
Listen, man,
I supported him this last year.
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I apologize for doing so.
It was a bad calculation at the time.
It seemed like the right one.
But he should be impeached
and removed for this one.
And not not on some like,
not not on some ridiculous Nancy Pelosi.
Of course, the Congress will never do it
because they're all a bunch of,
you know, corrupt hacks.
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This is the one thing they support.
This is like the yeah.
Donald Trump should be impeached
and removed for this.
All of his supporters should turn on him.
It's the absolute betrayal of everything
that he ran and campaigned on
and everything that he stood for.
And I will say, despite the fact that,
you know, Donald Trump supporters
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have been labeled like a cult following,
and that certainly is true
for a percentage of his supporters.
He is going to lose his coalition over
this, though I know I, I don't just speak
for myself when I say there are a lot of
us who simply will not go along with this.
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Voices are growing louder
and larger number it seems.
Representative
Marjorie Taylor Greene agrees.
She shared this post.
Everyone is finding out who are
real America First MAGA and who were fake
and just said it because it was popular.
Unfortunately, the list of fakes
are becoming quite long
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and exposed themselves quickly.
Anyone slobbering for the US to become
fully involved in the Israel Iran war
is not America first.
MAGA.
Wishing for murder
of innocent people is disgusting.
We are sick and tired
of foreign wars, all of them.
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And she had more to say.
She went on to say every country involved
and all over the world can be happy,
successful and rich if we all work
together and seek peace and prosperity.
Prosperity,
taking this position is not antisemitic.
It's rational, sane, loving toward all
people, taking this position of peace and
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prosperity for all is not isolationism.
It is leads to great trade deals,
great economies that help all people.
It's what many Americans
voted for in 2020 for America first,
America first, America first.
That is how we make America great again.
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So on Piers Morgan,
today you found common ground with CBS.
Let's watch that.
This is not America's war.
This is a war that is confined
to two parties in the Middle East.
This is a war where the United
States faces absolutely
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faces the threat of escalation.
And years ago today.
So ten years ago today, Donald Trump
comes down the golden escalator.
And what did he say?
No more foreign endless wars.
And instead, why don't we focus
on the problems at home?
He talked about obviously illegal aliens.
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He talked about deportations,
but he said millions.
Excuse me.
Trillions of dollars spent in Iraq,
trillions spent in Afghanistan.
And what did it get for us? Nothing.
Look at me and Jack.
Me and Jack don't agree on anything else,
but we agree that we should serve America.
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I say Americans first, not Israelis.
Stop the wars.
Look at. Steve Bannon.
Stop the war. All right.
Ask for war. Then let him.
Let Ben speak.
You're saying we don't want war?
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All right.
On the other side of MAGA, you have
conservatives loudly back into port.
A regime change in Iran like Ted Cruz.
Likely suspect who said this
during a Fox News interview with Maria.
Senator, do you want to see regime change?
Do you think that happens soon?
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And what would the future look like
in that regard?
Look, I think it is very much in the
interest of America to see regime change.
I don't think there's any
redeeming the Ayatollah.
- He is filled with hatred.
- Ted Cruz on Fox.
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And then there's Newt Gingrich
posting this.
Let's take a look.
The replacement of
the theocratic dictatorship in Iran
with a secular government
committed to peace with neighbors,
prosperity for Iranians and a
non-nuclear future is the only outcome
of the current Israeli Iranian war.
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That would be a success.
Any outcome which leaves the mullahs
and their dictatorship in charge
guarantees continuing Iranian support
for terrorism and a new, even more
secret effort to get a nuclear weapon.
A truce leaving the mullahs in charge
guarantees more terrorism
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and a future war.
Imagine the recent missiles on Tel Aviv
if they had been nuclear.
No truce with the mullahs.
So there you have it,
Newt Gingrich alluding to this,
preventative preemptive war.
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Got to replace the Ayatollah.
Now you have to have regime change, or
else things are just going to get worse.
This is necessary for Israel to amp things
up and for the United States to help.
Yeah.
So you see the old guard versus
the new guard, there's the old guard,
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Newt Gingrich, Ted Cruz,
Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, all.
Yeah, war is awesome.
We have to serve Israel loyally.
Remember, we're occupied.
And and so whatever Israel commands of us,
we have to do,
we have to do regime change in Iran.
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So no one's surprised by that.
That was super obvious.
They're all corrupt.
They all get paid off
by the special interests,
the lobbyists, etc., to say those things.
And that's been
true in America for so long.
So partly because of that, partly
because of how MAGA stuck with Trump
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no matter what he said in his first term,
a lot of people on the left
and in the middle thought,
these guys are immovable, right.
And but and I said they were.
So I'm going to come back
to that in a second.
But let me actually finish off
Gingrich and Ted Cruz for a second.
I don't want you to lose track of some
switcheroo that they're doing right now.
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And you saw it on those comments.
When Israel first attacked Iran,
they said, oh, we have to take out
their nuclear facilities.
They're going to have nukes any day now.
Then Netanyahu goes on Bret Baer's show
on Fox News this weekend,
and he says, just kidding, they wouldn't
have a nuclear weapon for at least a year.
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Then why did you attack them now?
And you didn't say that a minute ago.
You said that they were
about to have the weapons.
Right.
And they said, well,
they have ballistic missiles, but almost
everyone has ballistic missiles.
So should we attack everyone?
So that was the original reason.
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But if you notice, both Netanyahu
and now his servants Gingrich, Cruz, etc.,
they're all going.
We need regime change.
Wait, I thought you said
it was take out the nukes
and the weapons of mass destruction.
Now all of a sudden instantly change
to know we have to stay and fight there
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until we change their entire government
and and presumably take over the country.
And can Israel take over Iran?
Of course not.
No. There's only one country
powerful enough to take out their
nuclear facilities and do a regime change.
That's America.
So now that we're in the war,
Israel sends all their dogs out
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to bark and yap and Ted Cruz goes.
Regime change. Regime change.
Sean Hannity, regime change.
Now that's all normal.
That's what normally happens.
But now something unusual has happened.
I said in the beginning
of the Trump administration
that his coalition would not hold,
that they would break from him and and
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they would oppose him at different times.
I further said that it would be on Israel.
And everyone said, you're nuts.
They're never going to break.
They're a cult.
They will all listen to what Trump said.
They're not actually antiwar.
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And on Israel. Are you kidding me?
They will loyally serve Israel.
Okay, you can hold on to your fantasies
that they haven't broken.
But there's Dave Smith
saying he should be impeached.
He voted for Trump.
There's Tim Dillon. We showed you earlier.
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We got no business around.
This is not our war.
We got everybody saying it.
We've got Tucker Carlson,
Marjorie Taylor Green,
Marjorie Taylor Greene was on this show.
They say, oh, you're crazy.
She's not actually going
to oppose the war.
There she is, opposing the war.
So, look, guys, it isn't about told you.
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It's about how do we assess
what is true or not true.
How do we effectively fight back
against things that we don't want?
So there's a lot that we don't want
where the right wing is opposed to us.
So I don't want the National Guard
and the Marines in the streets of LA
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or any other city, and I will
fight them over that, and we will fight
very tough and very aggressively.
Okay.
But when they say they're anti-war
and now all their media
is saying they're anti-war.
It doesn't even matter if they're lying.
Like the media guys,
because they're telling their audiences
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24 over seven Trump is wrong.
We shouldn't go into this war.
We should not back Israel.
So let's all wake up
collectively together.
By the way, how did I know
when no one else knew?
Because I did something crazy
called talking to them and even more
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importantly, listening to them.
No, you can't listen to them.
We have to be in our own tribes.
Another tribe is evil.
They're evil. Never listen to them.
Well, since you weren't listening,
you missed the fact
that they're actually anti-war.
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And they're super tired of serving Israel,
not their politicians.
Their politicians are in lockstep.
By the way, a lot of our politicians
are in lockstep with Israel.
Right?
But their voters
are absolutely sick of it.
And the Israeli supporters are making
are in the middle of making
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a huge mistake right now.
They're starting to now do the same thing
to them that they did to us.
They're starting to call the right wing
and the libertarians anti-Semites
have at it, Hoss.
Oh, you go ahead.
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But that one trick pony is already dead.
Okay.
And you're going to flog that dead pony,
and then you're going to call
all of America anti-Semites
because we won't follow Israel's orders.
You're going to find out soon
that that is a very, very poor strategy.
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If you thought that was a bad strategy
to try with the left.
Wait till you try it with the right
and see how that turns out for you.
Okay. So let's review.
They won't turn on him. They did.
They won't fight each other.
They're at each other's throats.
You see that Tucker Carlson comment
about Sean Hannity and Murdoch
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and calling out all those names?
Okay, the coalition won't split.
It's split already.
I mean, you heard Dave Smith there, and
there's a lot more where that came from.
MTG Marjorie Taylor Greene
won't actually be against the war.
She's actually against the war.
So there's now a rebellion,
and the rebellion is joined.
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So before it was the left
that was anti-war.
Now libertarians are firmly anti-war.
They are. They have joined the rebellion.
No question about it.
Now MAGA half of MAGA is saying
yeah, no no no no no, no.
I don't even care what Donald Trump says.
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No means no. We said no war.
This is definitely a war.
We don't need to get dragged into it.
It doesn't need to be for regime change.
It doesn't need to be
to take out their nuclear facilities.
It doesn't need to be for anything.
Maybe we should try America first
instead of Israel first.
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But I also want to mention Dave Smith,
the probably the leading libertarian
in the country who flipped on Trump today.
He's going to be on The Young Turks
tomorrow at 8:00 eastern.
So don't miss that.
It's going to be an amazing interview.
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