Jun 16, 2025
Democratic Lawmaker Dies In 'Politically Motivated' Murder
Minnesota lawmakers Melissa Hortman and John Hoffman were allegedly gunned down by Luther Boelter.
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A moment in this country
where we watch violence erupt.
This cannot be the norm.
It cannot be the way that we deal
with our political differences.
Now is the time for us to recommit
to the core values of this country,
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and each and every one of us can do it.
Talk to a neighbor rather than arguing.
Debate an issue.
Shake hands. Find common ground.
Governor Tim Walz there, at a press
conference after the gunman shot and
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killed Minnesota lawmaker Melissa Hortman
and her husband over the weekend.
The attack considered
a targeted political violence.
Also, the word assassination
used by investigators.
Horrific details emerging on this one.
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Can it be as simple as what Tim Walz said,
what you alluded to, in our last story,
talking to your fellow neighbors.
Yeah.
Well, look, that's going
to work for a lot of folks.
Not going to work for a lot of folks.
But among the people who I'm
worried that it won't work for is mass
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shooters and killers and, you know,
people who have lost touch with reality
to the point where they're going
to go murder politicians.
So violence is a form of surrender,
intellectual surrender.
It means you're an idiot
and you don't know how to win an argument,
so you just resort to violence.
That's what this guy did.
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And one of the things we'll
get into right now, is also.
Which side is he on?
Right wing had this preposterous idea
that he was a left winger.
That's not remotely true. Not 1% true.
So we'll get into that as well.
Let's give you the details.
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Well, the details.
The killing was part of back
to back shootings
that occurred early Saturday morning.
The gunman, identified
as 57 year old Vance Luther Boelter,
after 48 hour manhunt.
He was found taken into custody.
There you see, the wanted posters.
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Vance Luther Boelter is accused
of impersonating a police officer
to carry out the attack on Saturday before
exchanging fire with police officers
and fleeing from the suburban area.
Minnesota lawmaker Melissa Hortman
and her husband, Mark,
shot and killed at their home in Brooklyn
Park shortly before that shooting.
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State Senator John Hoffman, a Democrat,
and his wife Yvette, were both
shot multiple times at their homes.
They were.
They are, pending surgery as we speak.
Also, Senator Hoffman and his wife
had been hit by 17 bullets between them.
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And here's what Boulter faces.
Two counts of second degree murder.
Two counts
of second degree attempted murder.
Authorities also found
a hit list in his car.
Authorities said they found a list
in the suspect's vehicle
that included other public officials.
This possibly target list includes
dozens of names of prominent Minnesotans
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who support abortion rights,
including many Democratic lawmakers,
also abortion providers.
According to an official who has seen
that document, his background in security
appears to be completely fabricated.
That was out there early
social media posts and websites.
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Boulter said he had extensive experience
as a security professional,
with training by both private security
firms and by people in the US military.
NPR found little evidence
to support Boulter account.
He appears to have worked most of his
career in the food service industry,
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and one longtime friend
described parts of Boulter's narrative
about his life as, quote, fantasy.
On the website for a company called
Pretorian Guard Security Services, LLC,
Boulter described himself
as part of the leadership team.
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NPR found no record of the firm having
clients or providing any services called
to the company's phone number connected to
what appears to be a private phone line,
not a business address
listed in incorporation papers
appeared to be that of a law firm
specializing in divorce litigation.
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Boulter himself appears to have had
no history working in law enforcement,
military or private security.
Local news station Fox nine
interviewed one of Boulter's roommates.
Roommate.
The longtime friends,
David Carlson downplayed the idea
that he had any real world military
or security experience quoting.
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He was always kind of into the
military stuff, but it was just, you know,
we were always like that.
Me and him,
we would play Army men, Carlson said.
Same time.
He had very religious background.
Ironically, one that condemned acts
of violence online posted a picture of
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Boelter as a devout Christian and pastor
who preached at a church in the Congo,
according to photos
on the church's Facebook page.
An archive website for his ministry
described his global travels to preach,
stating he sought out militant Islamists
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in order to share the gospel and tell them
that violence wasn't the answer.
After the horrific news
of the assassination broke,
Trump at first didn't have the kindest
words for Minnesota leadership.
Let's revisit that.
Here's what Rachel Rachel Scott
of ABC had to say on Minnesota.
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I asked the president
about the assassination
and whether he plans to call the state's
Democratic governor, Tim Walz, voting.
Well, it's a terrible thing.
I think he's a terrible governor.
I think he's a grossly incompetent person.
But I may I may call him.
I may call other people, too.
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The president said he later slightly
changed his tone, per a statement posted
by press Secretary Caroline Leavitt.
I have been briefed on the terrible
shooting that took place in Minnesota,
which appears to be a targeted attack
against state lawmakers.
Our attorney general, Pam Bondi,
the FBI, are investigating the situation.
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They will be prosecuting anyone involved
to the fullest extent of the law.
Such horrific violence will not be
tolerated in the United States of America.
God bless the great people of Minnesota.
A truly great place.
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So there's the president, once again
responding in his unique fashion
to a horrific tragedy, in Minnesota.
What do you make of, not just that, but
how we get here when we have this suspect.
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I've heard a lot of analysts
on television talking about how
this could have been prevented.
And the back and forth you mentioned,
you know, the right, claiming something
outlandish that this was a left plant
who did this, conducted this violence.
If the person's just unwell, unstable,
does it even matter?
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Yeah. No, it's very difficult to stop.
So I'll get back to that in one second.
So first, let's note the irony
of this guy in a couple of ways.
In that statement that Sharon read,
you guys, you know,
these radical Muslims are also violent,
said the guy who went on to try to murder,
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dozens of politicians in America.
So, yeah.
No, I don't see that.
I do see you, though, brother.
Trump.
Classy as always, doing a political attack
right after a shooting of politicians
when he was shot at.
No. You know, we were fair, on this show,
and I said he was brave, etc..
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Got a lot of flack for it,
but it's obvious.
And then everybody said around him,
you're okay.
You have to be super duper duper sensitive
about the assassination attempt.
That makes sense in this case,
not an attempt.
There's two people dead
and another two shot.
He was trying to murder a lot of people.
Apparently, we don't have to be sensitive.
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We could just do an attack
on Tim Walz right after the shooting.
Okay, notice the double standards.
Okay, now we move to whether they're
right, whether he's right wing or not,
it's not even close.
So he's a fundamentalist Christian now,
are all fundamentalist Christians
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serial killers like this or mass shooters
or, you know,
do these kind of political assassinations?
No, of course not.
Of course not. But is he in that category?
Unfortunately he is.
Was it? Oh, there was a theory.
Was Tim Walz put him
on some sort of committee or something.
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There was like a million
of those in every state.
Nobody knows who's on him.
So he's a Democrat?
No, he's not at all a Democrat.
Big time MAGA Trump supporter.
Does that mean all MAGA wants
to shoot Democrats?
No it doesn't.
Okay, so does it mean
that some unfortunately go in that,
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route of violence?
Yes, obviously. Who was on his list?
Everyone on his list was a Democrat,
including Amy Klobuchar,
the senator from Minnesota.
And he had no Kings protest fliers because
apparently he might have been planning to
go and shoot people randomly at protests
because they're protesting Donald Trump.
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So if you're on the right wing, let it go.
He's a right winger.
It doesn't mean all right
wingers are terrorists.
When a muslim does a bombing,
it doesn't mean all Muslims
are bombers or terrorists.
When Israel goes and starts a war,
it doesn't mean all Jews
want to start wars, right?
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These.
Well, so the even the governments
like Israel don't represent
all the people inside Israel,
let alone all the Jews in the world.
America, when we went to go do
that disastrous war in Iraq that didn't
represent all Americans, right.
So, no, when a left wing person
does something terrible,
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doesn't represent all the left wing.
When a right wing wing person
does something terrible,
doesn't represent the whole right wing.
But was he right wing? Yes, yes.
And the people who burned the Teslas
were left wing.
Okay, so we got to stop doing
this revisionist history
and playing around with the facts.
Oh, those facts are uncomfortable.
I want to blame the other side.
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No! Boo!
Change the facts.
No, we're not going to change the facts.
So. But can you stop a guy like this?
That was your original question.
And the answer is very, very unlikely.
So real quick on this one, let me give
you the the timeline of what happened.
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The two people he injured
are actually the first people
that he went to to go see in their house.
It was around 2:00 in the morning
pretending to be a cop has a mask on.
They realize he has a mask on and they
start trying to push him out of the house,
and he starts shooting them,
and he shot both the husband and the wife.
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But they managed to escape
and so they did not die.
Amazing.
He goes to another legislator's house.
They happen to be on vacation.
Oh thank God. Right.
Goes to another legislator's house.
All Democrats.
Okay.
And by that time, the police had
gotten the call that the other
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Democratic politicians had gotten shot.
So there was a cop car
in front of her house.
Nice job. Police in Minnesota.
Way to go.
So she's alive because of that? Okay.
He goes to a fourth house, and that's
where he finally kills the two people.
And then the police see him doing it.
He runs out the back door.
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ET cetera.
So how do you stop a guy like that?
Well, number one, police work in the
third case, they're actually did stop it.
So that's why I say terrific job.
Discredit to the cops
when they do things that are wrong.
Beat up black people for no reason.
Kill black people.
They said we've gone through all of that.
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When?
When the powerful do something wrong,
we must call them out
when they do something right.
Credit where credit is due.
Okay, but could cops
have stopped the first one?
Could they have stopped all of them?
No. But if he did not have a gun,
would it be less likely for him
to be able to kill those people?
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Of course. Of course you can say no.
No, he could have brought a rope
and he could have figured out how to tie
it and then drag one of them
and then somehow knock out the other one.
I mean, you could.
Yeah. With a frying pan, maybe.
Right.
But no, the gun makes it
way, way, way, way easier.
So the number one thing
you could do is gun control.
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But this country is never going to do it.
At least not in my lifetime.
So just buckle up.
There will be these psychopaths,
and at some point, they'll do either a
mass shooting or a political assassination
near you because everyone in America
has a gun, including the mentally ill.
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Yeah, I did hear it.
And we wrap up the first hour FBI
profiler today on one of the channels
saying that really the onus is on us
and family and friends
of the the accused perpetrator in this.
If you see something, if you hear
radicalized speech, you have to speak up.
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But in today's current climate,
I'm not sure people would recognize
what is imminent, dangerous or violent
speech versus radicalized speech.
But that's just my $0.02.
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