The other thing that I will say is about AOC. She has been demonized by the right, and she's been demonized as this, like, too progressive, far left person. And, and I want to try to set the record straight because if she is too [00:00:17] progressive, then the Democrats really are going to lose the working class. Joe Biden, he did not retire early enough so that there could be an open, what do they call it, primary. There was a fascinating discussion over at The View today, and it had [00:00:34] to do with something that transpired in regard to a leadership battle for the House Oversight Committee. And that leadership battle was between progressive Democratic lawmaker Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and a more moderate centrist Democrat. [00:00:53] And that was Democratic Representative Connolly. Right. So there was a vote on that issue. And it turns out that behind the scenes, you had former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi essentially whipping votes against AOC to ensure that Congressman Connolly would be the Democratic leader [00:01:13] within that House Oversight Committee. And so it's nice hearing Sunny Hostin defend Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, because I recall the days when corporate media, for the most part, was siding with Nancy Pelosi and trashing members of the squad, [00:01:30] progressive members of Congress. But that's not the case in this conversation. So that was surprising. But I also thought it was interesting when Sunny Hostin specifically listed what AOC's values are, the list was interesting, and what wasn't [00:01:47] in the list was also interesting. So without further ado, let's watch more of Sunny Hostin. You know, commentary on AOC. - This is her. - Platform. The key issues health care for all people. Affordable housing. Rebuild the unions, federal job guarantee free public college, create clean energy [00:02:08] jobs, paid parental leave, and expand protections for the LGBTQ plus community. If that is too progressive for this country, then that's a problem for the Democrats. And that's a problem, quite frankly, for this country. That used to be a description of a liberal. But the devil Medicare, health care for all should be an everybody issue. [00:02:30] So I thought that that list of policy goals that AOC certainly does hold was a good list for the most part. And you know, what I thought was interesting was that Sunny Hostin is smart enough to understand that those are policies that tend to have [00:02:46] broader appeal among the electorate. I mean, there is a reason why there's this populist wing of the Republican voting base right now, and certainly that has existed among the left for forever. But, you know, she understands that the economic stuff really appeals to people. [00:03:06] And she just kind of downplayed some of the more, you know, I think, like social justice social policies that AOC talks about. But I think what AOC does correctly is that she manages to balance her messaging [00:03:22] on both, as opposed to only focusing on the social stuff and then engaging in, like scolding people if they're not completely on board with what she wants for that stuff. Because I think that's what's kind of turned some people off on the left. [00:03:37] But I'm curious what you think about that was. I think The view, you know, they they've been on a roller coaster, right. They they were anti Biden getting pushed out. And Biden is fine. He's not too old and all right. [00:03:53] And then they became Kamala coconuts overnight. And they love the coconut Kamala. And they went crazy for that. And they couldn't. They were just so sure she was going to win. And I think, you know, unlike a lot of people, morning Joe, [00:04:09] they're like a little bit self-reflective as to what happened in the last election. I think that's one that they, they, they understand that they need to be more self-reflective. And two, I think what you're seeing, honestly, Anna, is the power of celebrity. Aoc is a celebrity. She is a star. [00:04:27] She counts for a star in the Democratic Party in 2024. And it doesn't take a genius to be like, wait a second. This is one of the few stars we've produced. This woman stands for all of the right things that any Democrat, [00:04:43] any self-professed liberal. You go to a cocktail party, it's like, you know what, man? We need to get the people some health care. You know what, man? The people are complaining about the rents being too, to, like any freaking lib, could accept those as you know. Respectable issues that should be platformed. [00:05:00] So I think what these women at the viewers see is like, what's the harm in the foul here? Like, what did AOC do to not deserve this promotion when, you know, she vice chaired this same committee? She's put in all the work again. One of the things you want these people to do is to be able to go, [00:05:19] you know, use the megaphone and actually spread your positions far and wide. AOC has demonstrated an ability to do that. Like, you know, liberals are obsessed with qualifications. She qualifies totally. Like there's just no two ways about it. [00:05:35] I think the women of The View are expressing this obvious, you know, opinion. Now we're going to go to Alyssa Farah Griffin in just a minute, because she did have a rebuttal for Sunny Hostin that I think is worth listening to. But you make a really great point was because remember [00:05:52] Congressman Gerry Connolly, you know, he's up there in age, he's 74 years old. And he also has esophageal cancer, which has a very low survival rate. I hate talking about that because it just it's brutal. And I don't want I don't want anyone to think I'm attacking him. [00:06:09] But the point is, you know, there's this unwillingness by older leadership in Congress and the Democratic Party specifically to step aside and allow for younger, newer leadership. [00:06:25] That's a lot more energetic, better at communicating. And you're right. I mean, AOC has proven herself to be a far better speaker and promoter of the, you know, values and policies that the Democratic Party purports to want to champion and pass. [00:06:43] And so, with that in mind, I want to go to J4 here. This is Alyssa Farah Griffin, responding to critique about how AOC's policies are too radical. Like radical left. Obviously, Sunny Hostin disagrees with that, and that's why she listed [00:07:00] the economic policies. But Farah Griffin wasn't going to let her get away with that. So let's take a look. But the devil's in the. Details because a lot of this country does not support, for example, the Green New Deal, which would absolutely crush jobs across this country, wreak havoc. [00:07:15] - It would create. - Millions of jobs, actually, it would. Make it would actually make international travel virtually impossible to do because of some of the regulations that are in place. Universal health care, you should have. Of course, anyone who needs emergency coverage, people should have catastrophic coverage. But most Americans think they want to have some choice [00:07:31] and optionality in their health care. There's a reason Obamacare did not have the public option. The public. That's not where the majority of the country is. I would argue that AOC is definitely too left for the majority of the country. So I disagree with what Alyssa Farah Griffin said there. [00:07:47] So first of all, like the Green New Deal was such a massive piece of legislation. I mean, which provisions are we talking about here? And look, I've been on the record and people have gotten mad at me. I don't care. I'm going to say it again, if you write climate related legislation in a way that puts the financial burden on individuals, individual Americans. [00:08:09] Yeah, they're not going to like it. Okay. If it becomes this like super expensive burden on ordinary American workers and they're forced to buy certain cars or replace certain appliances in their home without any real government support. [00:08:26] And when I say real government support, I'm not just talking about tax credits, okay, take your tax credits and you can shove it okay. Tax credits is like, oh, you might you know, a certain portion of your income might be tax deductible. It's not good enough okay. Because people have to pay for things up front. And a lot of American families can't afford that. [00:08:43] So if it has to do with provisions that are written in that way. I can see those provisions being unpopular, but to just say the Green New Deal is unpopular. Okay. Well, what's your evidence of that? And which parts of that massive bill are you referring to? The other thing is, what is she talking about with the health care. [00:09:02] So she says. Yeah. So I'm going to let you jump in with that was because that got you heated. First of all, Medicare, one of the most popular government programs in existence. Seniors are never saying, oh, I'd like more choice with my men. I want to like I'd like to have more private choices. [00:09:18] Like, no, like the government is taking care of my bills. I think that's crap. But I think the thing that never gets said when these discussions are happening, particularly with progressive or left Democrats, is no Republican is [00:09:36] ever killed for being too Republican, being too right wing. In fact, When you get killed as a Republican, they call you a Rino. They say you're a Republican in name only, meaning you're not Republican enough. You're not hardcore enough. [00:09:52] That's when you get killed as a Republican. Only the freaking Democrats run away from their most strident party members. Nobody ever says, oh, this person needs to never be seen again. This person needs to have, you know, put dirt in their skis [00:10:10] when they're ascending because they're too seen as too conservative. No. So, like, I just think it's nonsense that this idea that AOC is just too left for the country. It's like, no, fam, as a party, y'all need to be making the case [00:10:25] for your left policies to the country. Not this idea that somebody like AOC is quote unquote too left. No, all of those things that she mentioned, if you guys actually cared about it, you could go out and make a case to offer it to the American people and this nonsense that somebody like AOC or somebody else [00:10:44] is quote unquote, too left, too crazy, too freaky, too liberal is nuts. - I just don't buy it. - Yeah. I mean, look, it really depends on what you're making the case for. And when you hear members of the Democratic Party argue that someone like [00:11:00] AOC is too left wing, again, it really depends on what they're referring to. But when it comes to Democratic members of Congress, you know, putting that allegation out there, that criticism out there, they are talking about what her economic values are. And it's not that the American people would find those proposals too far left, [00:11:22] per se, but the corporate donors would, that's for sure. So that's what they're referring to. If you enjoyed this video, that's because of our members. They make us independent. 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