Nov 4, 2024
Final Polls Are Trending ONE Way
Final polling is promising signs for Vice President Kamala Harris.
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Bombshell earthquake. Tsunami.
That is how the US political world
is describing a staggering poll that came
out over the weekend in Iowa, a red state.
The survey for the Des Moines Register
by respected pollster Ann Selzer,
prompted this headline Iowa Poll
Kamala Harris leapfrogs Donald Trump
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to take lead near Election Day.
Here's how a new Des Moines Register
Mediacom Iowa poll shows Vice President
Harris leading former President Trump,
47 to 44% among likely voters, just days
before a high stakes election that appears
deadlocked in key battleground states.
The results follow September Iowa poll
that showed Trump
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with a four point lead over Harris,
and a June Iowa poll showing him with an
18 point lead over Democrat President
Joe Biden, who was the presumptive
Democratic nominee at the time.
Ann Selzer, who put together this poll,
she then went on television a lot,
and she explained the 4744 margin
for Harris this way.
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Digging into the data, we determined
that it wasn't people switching positions.
It was new people, Perhaps a bigger
pool of people deciding to vote.
And at that time, our definition of
a likely voter was somebody who tells us
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they will definitely vote.
And the numbers were especially
notable among older people,
among women and among college graduates.
These are all groups
that are tilting toward Harris.
So it seemed like there was
a get off the bench moment.
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A separate poll conducted by Emerson
finds that Donald Trump
is ahead in Iowa by ten.
So what's the difference?
While Ann Selzer said that Emerson
and she kind of rained on Emerson
in another media appearance.
Emerson started with their assumptions
and started with a model
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about what the turnout would be
for various demographic groups, including
women and older voters, seltzer said.
She, by contrast, surveyed that
to come up with her model
about what the demographics and the
participation would be in the election.
So women are breaking for Harris
by double digits, according to seltzer.
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And even if double digit is the lead that
Donald Trump has with men in Iowa, because
women are coming in as a much larger
percentage of the electorate, 5,556%.
That helps explain why Harris, according
to seltzer, is winning Iowa State
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that Donald Trump is supposed to win now.
And seltzer survey has caused heartache
and heartburn for MAGA world.
Because, again, if women are turning in
higher percentages for Harris
and they're a higher percentage
of the electorate than the pre-election
polls, most of the polls are wrong.
And according to the latest New York
Times Siena poll, late deciders are coming
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in 55% for Harris, 44% for Trump
and the 8% of the electorate.
This is what 8% of the electorate
makes up the decision late.
Again, they're breaking for Harris by you
know you're looking at it 11 points.
The polling comes as more than 70 million
Americans have already voted, according
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to the University of Florida Election Lab,
roughly 40% of those surveyed by the Times
Siena poll across the seven battleground
states, said they had already voted.
Harris wins those voters by a margin of
eight percentage points, the polls found.
Trump has an edge among voters
who say they are highly likely to vote,
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but have not yet cast a ballot.
So the question is, will the voters
who have yet to cast a ballot, will they
be able to erase the margins for Trump
that Harris has already accumulated?
In other words, where more Trump voters
show up on Election Day?
And usually that's the case
based on 2020 and also 2016,
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is that early voters favor the Democrats.
Late voters favor the Republicans.
But will Donald Trump be able to run
up his numbers in enough of these states
on Election Day to make up
what appears to be a Harris lead
and some interesting information
about early voting in North Carolina,
for example, the election already has 59%
voter participation before Election Day
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in 2020, the overall participation
in North Carolina was 72%.
There was also something like
16 to 17% of the electorate
that voted on Election day.
So again, the question becomes
what percentage is voting on Election Day?
Does that number still withstand
the Harris lead,
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or is it something that turns the numbers
back around towards Donald Trump?
According to, a number of now back
to the back to the Iowa poll because
according to a number of strategists,
it's more than just Iowa that is at stake.
If in fact, Ann Selzer is correct,
if she is correct and women are
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a larger part of the electorate,
and there's a greater percentage of older
voters that are pulling for Harris
than for Donald Trump, well, that could
have an impact not just in Iowa,
but in a lot of other states as well.
And in fact, in Kansas, there's a poll
that shows Donald Trump, who Donald
Trump won Kansas by 14 points in 2020.
He's only ahead of Kamala Harris by four.
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So there is a suggestion here that
perhaps Ann Selzer is on to something.
And that has led to some
remarkable pronouncements
by some former Republican strategists,
including Mark McKinnon on CNN.
She's been the most reliable pollster
that I've ever worked with in my career,
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and I've worked with a lot of them.
So it's just if directionally she's right
and Trump just wins Iowa by a lot less
than we thought he was going to.
That just has huge consequences
for the actual swing states.
So again, I think if seltzer
is half right about Iowa, I think Harris
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could win all seven swing states.
I'll just say it now.
I know you're not in the prediction
business, but I'm getting in it.
Harris is going to blow the doors off,
and it's going to be because of women
and the Grand Gap.
Because of women and the granny gap.
And of course, it could apply not just to
Iowa, but also to Wisconsin and Michigan
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and other Midwestern battleground states.
And by the way,
I mentioned Kansas a moment ago.
Kansas was one of those states that had
an abortion ballot on that was essentially
up for a referendum to try to further
restrict abortion after the Supreme Court,
Dobbs decision
that was rejected by the voters,
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they rejected the abortion restrictions.
Abortion restrictions have been defeated
in every state where they've been
on the ballot, so even Republican states,
women have come out and said,
no, no, we're not going to have this.
And they voted against it also,
in special elections for the last two
years since the Supreme Court.
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Dobbs decision.
Democrats have outperformed
and congressional elections
and special elections,
and state and local elections that they
were expected to lose or be close.
They have outperformed the pre-election
polling and the expectations,
which suggests that women
are a bigger part of this electorate than
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they would have been had it not been for
the Supreme Court decision two years ago.
Now, there's one other thing to keep in
mind in all of this we talk about under.
We talk about overperforming
compared to the polls,
somebody else who has overperformed
repeatedly in his elections, Donald Trump,
he was expected to lose some of these
battleground states to Joe Biden by
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much greater margins than he actually did.
And so the lingering question out there
is, are there enough people out there
who do not want to admit to pollsters
and surveys that, yes, they're
pulling the lever for Donald Trump?
Will that number essentially mean
that Donald Trump's expected final result
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will be higher than the polls suggest?
And we will soon find out.
Jack.
Okay, I've got even more information
That's late breaking
in a second for you guys.
But first, let me begin
to break this down.
This election is not necessarily
going to be the closest.
There's been some
unbelievably close elections.
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Obviously, 2000 Bush v Gore separated by
a couple hundred votes in Florida and then
43,000 votes in the three swing states
in the last election made the difference.
So I don't know that this is going
to be the closest.
In fact, at the end of the day,
as David's pointing out,
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it might not even be that close,
especially in the Electoral College.
But what it is is the most
unpredictable election of my lifetime.
It's for the two reasons
that David explained there.
So in 2016 and 2020, Donald Trump
got all of these unexpected voters.
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And even in the states that Joe Biden
won Michigan and Wisconsin, for example,
he had around an eight point lead and
barely wound up winning them by about 0.6.
So tons of unexpected voters
came in for Donald Trump.
And I've explained that phenomenon
for the last eight years.
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No one in mainstream media wants to hear
it, and they still don't understand it.
It's people who don't normally vote going,
oh, there's someone
that's against the system.
Well, I hate the system.
I'm going to show up
and vote for that guy.
Now I think, of course,
Donald Trump is a fake populist.
You've heard me say that a million times,
but that is what's driving that.
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On the other hand, in 2022 and 23, a ton
of unexpected women voters showed up and
the Democrats did better than expected,
which hadn't happened in a long time.
So what we're in is a is
a battle of unexpected voters.
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Which side is going to have
more unexpected voters?
So when we look at that, well, a couple
of data points that David just shared with
you stick out to me as the most relevant.
The late deciders breaking 11%
in favor of Kamala Harris is a big deal,
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because now we're no longer talking
about polling and the assumptions
that those different pollsters make
when it comes to their polling.
Now we're talking
about actual votes, right?
And if she's winning by 11%
in people who actually voted already,
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well, that's a big deal.
And especially because the in that
category, they hadn't made up their mind
until very recently.
So they're breaking towards her.
We're not talking about the people who are
already on the two different sides.
So score one for her on that.
And then to me, North Carolina was really
interesting because Kamala Harris's team
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pulled out a lot of their ads from North
Carolina around a week ago, even less.
And that seemed to be signaling
surrender there as that they had lost
and the polling was trending
towards Donald Trump in North Carolina.
It looked like
he was going to put it away.
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But now over 50% of the vote
is already in.
And, you know, on election nights, we'll
tell you, as the percentage of the vote
gets higher, it becomes so much harder
for the other side to overcome a lead,
because let's say it's 50% of the vote is
in and Kamala Harris is up by eight,
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which is actually the situation
in North Carolina,
we believe so far,
based on the information that we have,
it's not at all definitive, guys.
So if if that's true, then Donald Trump
would have to win the other 50% by more
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than eight points to to bring it back to a
tie and then to be able to take the lead.
Right.
So that's a lot of votes to make up.
And and so I think that if those
numbers are true,
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that's super hard for him to make up.
On the other hand,
here's a new data point.
Jon Ralston is the most
respected reporter in in Vegas.
He's been covering these elections
for a long time.
He's been right
about a lot of the election results.
He kept talking about rural voters
coming in at much larger numbers
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than they normally do in Nevada elections,
and that was leaning towards Trump.
So he was giving signals throughout
that Nevada was headed towards Trump.
But here at the last day, he turned
around and said no, based on what he's
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seeing recently and his intuition
and all the other things that go into it,
he believes that Kamala Harris
is going to pull out Nevada
barely by like 0.3% or so.
So the two most important
demographic groups are both women.
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It's just two different kinds of women.
So one is independent women that are
now coming in in that seltzer poll in Iowa
at 2 to 1 margin for Kamala Harris.
Remember, this is not Democratic women.
This is independent women.
And now independents outnumber Republicans
and Democrats in the country.
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So which way independents
break is super relevant.
The late deciders go to Kamala Harris.
Independent women go
to Kamala Harris in giant numbers.
And then the last one is potentially
the most important senior women.
So that is why Kaitlan Collins on CNN
reporting that those Iowa numbers came
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in like a gut punch to the Trump team,
because if they're losing
senior white women in the numbers,
that they're losing them in Iowa.
If that poll is accurate. Oh, boy.
Then they're in a lot of trouble.
And they are they're bleeding out senior
voters in ways that people didn't expect.
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Meanwhile, this is again,
this election is so topsy turvy.
We're in the middle of a transition.
The parties are transitioning.
Transitioning.
The voters are transitioning.
So Trump is picking up a lot more
younger voters who are frustrated
with the Democratic Party and Kamala
Harris and the inability of Democrats
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to ever get anything done.
On the other hand, the Democrats
are picking up a lot of senior voters
who are worried about Donald
Trump's instability and his attacks
on the Constitution and democracy.
So at the end of all of that
with now less than a day to go.
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I'm at, I don't know, and I think
that everybody should be at I don't know,
I think both sides are overconfident.
Those unexpected voters from Trump can
still show up, just like they did
in the last two presidential elections.
And those unexpected women voters
are already showing up.
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And the question is, to what degree
does that cavalry arrive?
Is it a normal size election,
a little bit more than normal,
or do they show up in giant numbers?
I'm so glad you mentioned younger voters,
because one of the things
that Ann Selzer pointed out is that
the share of the Iowa electorate, when you
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look at older voters and younger voters,
was much more sort of weighted, she found,
towards older voters, people over 65 were
turning out in a greater participation
than a lot of people had thought.
And people who are younger voters, 25
and younger, were turning out a much less
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number than a lot of people had thought.
And if you go through some of
the pre-election polls that have been done
over the last couple of weeks, especially,
so there's that in Iowa,
if you go over the pre-election polls,
especially some of the Republican paid
for polls that are out there,
that, in my view, are not scientific
or statistically significant in the least,
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but a lot of them used a model
that suggested,
okay, we'll take the number from 2020
that will have women will be
something like 53, 54% of the electorate.
Okay, that's fine, except that in some of
these battleground states North Carolina,
Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Wisconsin,
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not so much, but Michigan, you're looking
at numbers of 55, 56% women in terms
of the overall makeup of the election.
And so when you have that 1
to 2 percentage point difference
in terms of the overall participation,
and you have a larger pool of women,
and you already have women
who are voting for Harris over Trump,
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as you said, you know, by 15 to 20 points.
That's where the difference becomes.
And that is there's not enough male
voters, even if they're supporting Donald
Trump in the same way that women
are supporting Kamala Harris, there's
just not enough men to make up that gap.
And then likewise, you add to the mix,
if people over 65 are breaking for Harris
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in the way that they're breaking in Iowa,
and you don't have the the younger turnout
that a lot of these pre-election
polls suggested, then that means
these pre-election polls were wrong.
And I think the other piece about it is we
know there are some of these pre-election
polls that were done by Republicans
that were part of a strategy
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by the Trump campaign to be able to say,
look, the election was stolen if I lost,
because look at the pre-election polls,
I was winning.
I was winning all these states.
There's no way I could have lost
unless the Democrats stole it.
And I think there are some organizations,
some fly by night organizations
that decided to participate in this
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and to essentially cook the books
to try to help Donald Trump
and perhaps give more enthusiasm
to Republicans and depressed Democrats.
But that also fed into the narrative
because the mainstream news organizations
that did essentially a polling average,
they included all the numbers.
They included every poll
in terms of their, you know,
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real clear Politics average of the polling
for the states and nationally.
And so it had the effect of some of these
Trump favoring polls, tightening the race
and making it seem much closer
than it might otherwise have been.
So I think to your point,
it's sort of a chaos election.
Nobody really knows.
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But at least in terms of likely voters,
who's showing up, the numbers are
not matching what some of these
pre-election polls had been counting on.
And I think that's why you're seeing
so much enthusiasm for Kamala Harris
and a sense of dread developing
in the Trump campaign.
Yeah.
So tomorrow our election coverage
starts at noon eastern.
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Don't miss a minute of it.
It's going to be amazing.
Dave is going to be part
of Michael Shaw and Kasparian.
ET cetera.
And we're going
to focus right at twitter.com.
And at twitter.com will also have all
of the election news, all the exit polls,
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all the, you know, hubbub around the long
lines, the Republicans claiming fraud.
ET cetera.
But I want to end on a couple
of important things here.
So to David's point about the some
of the nonsense polls in there,
Real Clear Politics is a place
that a lot of people go, but they
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included two nonsense Republican polls,
at a minimum, maybe three.
And so that skews their average,
and that skews the way
the people are looking at it.
I try to ignore those as much as possible,
but still, at this late date,
the very last polls that came in,
most of them have Kamala Harris
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winning the election overall.
But New York Times, Siena.
And there now there
there's two buts there.
One is they're all over the place.
Some have her holding the blue wall.
Michigan, Wisconsin
and Pennsylvania and others.
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But losing Nevada and Arizona,
North Carolina, Georgia.
Others have her winning,
Wisconsin and and Michigan and Arizona
and North Carolina, but not Pennsylvania.
So and they're just
they're all over the place.
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Every poll has different states going,
different people.
Kamala Harris is winning.
Almost all of them that are not like
weirdo, jerry rigged Republican Polls,
but New York Times
Siena poll comes in at the end.
She wins overall, but she's tied
in Pennsylvania and Michigan.
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Well, if she doesn't win Pennsylvania
and Michigan, she's not going to win.
So that leaves us at.
It is near impossible to tell.
One last thing.
The national average has them close.
See, that doesn't make any sense either,
because if you're close nationally,
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then the Republican candidate
is much, much, much more likely to win.
But yet when you look at the swing states,
they're not matching
any of the old patterns.
And what ultimately decides
that is state by state.
So the swing states
will make all the difference.
So that leaves Nate Silver,
Frank Luntz, Harry Enten, and myself,
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for whatever it's worth, all that.
I don't know,
and neither does anyone else.
Okay.
The people who are usually
the most certain
are the least certain in this election.
But David, it seemed like
you might be more certain.
Well, I'll give you one thing
I am certain about.
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And then I'm curious about your opinion.
Renata on Twitch.
One of our members there
wrote in woman might save you all.
Well, that's definitely true,
because if Kamala Harris wins, it will
definitely be be because the cavalry
arrived and that cavalry is female voters
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in larger numbers than expected.
So that part is clear.
But we don't know that
that's definitely going to happen.
Or maybe the Trump voters overwhelm.
ET cetera.
So if she wins is because of women voters,
but I don't know at this late date
whether she's going to win.
David, you sounded more confident
before we came on air.
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- What's your take?
- Yeah, I'm going to go on.
I don't think it's so much of a limb
because, look, I make this decision
in part based on what I've seen in some of
the cross tabs and some of the percentages
of people who have already voted.
The way the numbers are coming in.
I do think that women as a percentage
of this electorate, it's coming in higher
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by a percentage point or two
than nearly all the pre-election polls.
So that favors Kamala Harris.
The other part is,
if you look back at the last two years,
every single election, Democrats have
outperformed the pre-election polling.
Ballot initiatives. Special elections.
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Mayoral races.
There was a race in Anchorage, Alaska,
Republican town, that Donald Trump carried
by 14 points this year.
The Democrat won by 12. I mean,
there's just there just feels like there
is this wave of participants that have not
previously been counted as likely voters.
So my sense and, you know,
maybe it's going out on a limb,
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maybe it's overconfidence,
maybe it's partly wishful thinking.
But my gut tells me
that that the polling is wrong,
that there's a greater participation
of women than anybody had anticipated,
that younger voters are not going to turn
out for Donald Trump in the way they had
been counting on, and that, yes, senior
voters are breaking harder for Trump.
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But remember, you know,
in the course of four years, you get
a cohort of 5 or 6 million senior voters
who are not voting anymore because they're
dead or they're incapacitated.
So there's a group that, you know,
essentially reshuffles
in terms of the older cohort.
So to put it bluntly,
I think she is going to win six
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of the seven battleground states.
I think some of them will be very close.
Nevada and Arizona, very tight.
I think North Carolina and Georgia
could be tight.
Pennsylvania could be tight.
But I think you'll have a couple of them
that she'll win by,
you know, 50 or 60,000 votes.
And I'm pretty confident
and I know this may be an outlier.
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I think that by midnight eastern time
on election night, we're going to know
that Kamala Harris has won this election.
And the only thing that's left
is certification and making sure
that the ballots are official.
But I just think that they're going to be
so many states that she's going to win
battleground states that it's going
to be over on election night.
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That's where I feel it's going.
Okay. Strong statement, I like it.
At noon eastern tomorrow on Election day
when we start our coverage on tight.
Com I will be forced to make a prediction
and I will.
And we're going to ask you guys,
our viewers, to make predictions.
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And whoever is the most accurate
will be declared
the election champion of the world.
Now. What does that mean?
Nothing outside of you being
election champion of the world.
But you get to brag about it
for the rest of the time that you
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were the one person who knew best.
So that's what we're going
to try to determine.
And I'm going to add some fun
if I'm wrong, if she does not win
six of seven battleground states,
suppose she only wins 2 or 3
and it's tight, or she loses the election.
I will come back on Twit,
and I will literally eat this paper
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that I've written some of my data on.
I will eat it on live TV.
I will humiliate myself.
I will shame myself, I will apologize,
I will say, never believe Schuster again.
He's wrong. He's admitted he's an idiot.
He's a moron.
But I don't think that's going to happen.
I think she's going to win
and it's going to be a blowout.
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I like how strong David's coming in.
It's usually my move and like in
this case, I'm not at all sure.
But David seems very sure.
I'm so curious to see
if that's going to turn out to be true.
I can't wait, so I hope we see you all
on Election Day and and see
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how it actually turns out.
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This doesn't come as a surprise,
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[00:22:56]
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