Nov 28, 2023
Historian and professor Rashid Khalidi discusses the alarming policies of the Biden administration about displaced Palestinians.
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It was the intention of Israel and of the
United States to expel as many as possible
of the people of Gaza to Egypt.
We know that that's the case because
the United States government put before
put before Congress a budget request
which included forcing people out of Gaza.
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It's in the budget request
of 20th October.
We know that because the Israelis have
been talking about it among themselves,
and ministers have been saying, know the
only solution is for them to go to Egypt.
Now, I'm very aware of the various
statements made by members of the Likud
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party documents indicating that they
do intend to push Palestinians
out of the Gaza Strip to Egypt,
but it always appeared as though the Biden
administration was very much against that.
So what you're referencing
I want to know more about.
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What did you read in the budget?
The Biden administration has since turned
against this, because they were slapped
in the face by the Egyptians and
the Jordanians, who told them, under no
circumstances would we countenance helping
you to ethnically cleanse Palestine.
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And under no circumstances would Egypt
hand over a chunk of Sinai to be turned
into a huge refugee camp for Palestinians
who, as everybody knows, once they're
expelled, will never be allowed to return?
This is not a temporary project.
The budget request
from the Office of Management
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and Budget to Congress on the 20th had a
section under a heading called migration,
Migration and Refugee Assistance.
And the of the key passage
said these resources.
These resources would support displaced
and conflict affected civilians, including
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Palestinian refugees in Gaza and the West
Bank, and to address potential needs of
Gazans fleeing to neighboring countries.
Another passage says the crisis could well
result in displacement across borders.
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In other words, into Egypt or into Jordan,
and hire and funding may be used
to meet evolving programing requirements
outside of Gaza.
And then another passage says
ensuring that Palestinians in Gaza
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later on, the president under pressure
from the Egyptians and the Syrians,
Egyptians, sorry.
And the Jordanians,
issued statements in which he said
that we will ensure that Palestinians are
not displaced to Egypt or other nations.
So the pushback from the presumed host
nations that Secretary of State Blinken
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was asking the Egyptians
and the Jordanians to accept the pushback
from those countries is what forced
the administration to change its policy.
But this is this is a this is a provision.
It's on page, I believe, page 40
of the very long document
that was sent by OMB to to the speaker
of the House on the 20th of October.
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That was their intention. Wow.
We don't only have it from the Egyptians
who are screaming bloody murder, and the
Jordanians were screaming bloody murder.
We have it from their own,
their own document.
- It's incredible.
- It's disgraceful.
It's not.
No, it is disgraceful.
It's absolutely disgraceful.
But what's also disgraceful is the fact
that the first time I hear about it
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is watching an interview that you do,
rather than hearing it
from the wonderful political journalists
here in the United States that are
supposed to walk us through the various
budget proposals that come from members
of Congress and the executive branch.
Of course, we don't get that information.
So that's also disgraceful.
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Professor Khalidi, thank you so much
for being generous with your time.
I really appreciate this conversation.
I would love to have you
back on in the future.
Thank you.
I'd be happy to do it again.
Thank you for having me.
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