Oct 24, 2023
WATCH: Jenna Ellis Blames EVERYONE Else While Pleading Guilty In GA Election Case
Former Trump campaign lawyer Jenna Ellis took a plea deal and agreed to cooperate with Fulton County prosecutors in the 2020 Georgia election subversion case.
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In the frenetic pace of attempting to
raise challenges to the election in
several states, including Georgia,
I failed to do my due diligence.
I believe in, and
I value election integrity.
If I knew then what I know now,
I would have declined to represent Donald
Trump in these post election challenges.
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I look back on this whole
experience with deep remorse.
>> Speaker 2: That tearful woman you
just heard from was former Trump lawyer
Jenna Ellis, who is one of the more
recent individuals to flip,
if you will, in the Georgia case,
on election interference.
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She has decided to take
a plea deal in that case.
And that means that she will not only
plead guilty to what you're about to hear,
but also provide testimony in regard
to the other co-defendants in the case.
That could include people like
Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump, of course.
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So let's hear what she
pleaded guilty to in court.
>> Speaker 3: Is it your decision
to waive these rights and
enter a guilty plea because you are,
in fact, guilty?
>> Speaker 4: It is.
>> Speaker 3: How do you plead to aiding
and abetting false statements in writings
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under accusation two, three, SC 1905114?
>> Speaker 3: Guilty.
>> Speaker 3: And
is this your signature, along with Mr.
Hoag's signature on the accusation?
>> Speaker 3: It is.
>> Speaker 3: And
is this guilty plea freely and
voluntarily given with full knowledge
of the charges against you?
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>> Speaker 4: It is.
>> Speaker 2: So Ellis has pleaded guilty
to making false statements in regard to
the 2020 presidential election.
Now, in her statement in court,
which you saw at the very beginning
of this story, she was tearful.
But what was kind of frustrating to me
was how she seemed to want to place
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the blame on her behavior, on everyone
else, essentially lying to her.
She claimed that I should have
done my due diligence and
looked into these allegations that
were being made, but I didn't.
She knew what she was doing.
But it doesn't matter, look,
she has decided to take this plea deal,
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which means she is going to
cooperate with this investigation.
So Ellis, who had been facing two charges,
including violating Georgia's
anti-racketeering act,
pleaded guilty in court Tuesday morning to
a single felony count of aiding and
abetting false statements and writings.
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The deal allows her to avoid jail time in
exchange for providing evidence that could
potentially implicate other defendants and
agreeing to testify in any future trials.
Ellis worked closely with personal
Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani,
another defendant in the case,
who faces 13 charges.
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So, just based on what I've been reading
about Ellis and what her role was as
a lawyer for the campaign, it seems that
she was much closer with Rudy Giuliani.
And that could mean that her testimony and
cooperation in this case could be more
damning for Giuliani than anyone else.
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But I am curious to see
how this plays out,
how her flipping is going
to impact Donald Trump.
Also curious how Donald Trump
is gonna handle the fact that so
many people have slipped
on him at this point,
including his former chief of staff,
Mark Meadows, that story recently broke.
>> Speaker 4: Yeah, so
look, if we were dishonest,
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we would tell you now, Jenna Ellis is
the most credible person there is because
she's about to give testimony
against Donald Trump.
So of course we believe everything she's
saying now, and so should the jury, right?
No, but
Jenna Ellis is an obvious liar, right?
We're not hiding that fact.
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She's, I didn't check and
people lied to me.
You went on national television in
multiple giant press conferences
in the middle of one of the most important
political events in American history,
and you claimed that you were
positive that Joe Biden had
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a nefarious plot to steal this
election and you never checked.
Come on.
Come on.
I mean, if that's true,
you're the most negligent, ridiculous,
pathetic lawyer/person in history and
you should be disbarred.
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Just go into a cave and never come out
again for the humiliation that you should
suffer for not having even checked one
piece of evidence before you went and
lied to the country over and over
again about how you were positive that
Biden had stolen this election and
Trump was the rightful leader.
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Now, of course I don't believe her.
Of course she checked and she knew.
She knew she was lying and she thought,
I'm gonna get famous and rich.
Yes, and then we'll steal the election and
maybe I'll get a great job
in the Trump administration.
Piece of crap evil person,
their tears can kiss my ass.
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Those tears are useless.
They're, I got caught.
I was gonna go to jail.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
That's what I thought.
I remember other people crying in
court and then coming out later and
doing a little jig.
Anyway so,
>> So let's talk a little bit about what
her role in the Trump campaign was and
what she herself carried out.
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Can I get to those details?
>> Speaker 4: Yes, but
I wanna explain that, guys, in a second,
I'm going to tell you why I think you can
trust what she's saying now as opposed to
earlier because there is a real reason.
But first, let's give you more details.
>> Okay, so what was her role?
What did she do?
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This also pours cold water on the notion
that she had no idea that these were all
just lies.
So Ellis worked closely with Giuliani,
traveling to battleground states including
Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, and
Pennsylvania, where prosecutors say she
spoke to lawyers urging them to reject
the popular vote results in their states.
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The Georgia indictment also pointed
to memos that she wrote for
Trump outlining how Vice President Mike
Pence could overturn the election results.
So she was part of the effort
to reject the election results,
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implement the fake electors.
So that's both good for
us in regard to this plea deal because it
means that she could have a lot
of tea to spill in this case.
Not so great for her in terms of what
she's trying to do with changing
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the public's perception of who she is and
what she engaged in,
because she was very much involved.
She didn't just go around
like Mark Meadows did,
lying vocally about the results
of the 2020 election.
She took part in writing those memos.
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She helped to put those wheels in motion
in regard to the fake electors based on
what we're seeing in the indictment.
So she has now pleaded guilty.
I also want to remind you all that
previously she had turned against Trump,
not in this case, but publicly on social
media because the legal bills were
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starting to stack up, and
Trump had no interest in helping any of
the co-defendants when it
came to those legal bills.
And I remember saying at
the time when that story broke,
this is going to bite Trump in the ass.
Because what incentive do these
individuals have to not flip on, look,
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there's a good chance that
he might be found guilty and
he might not even get sentenced
to any prison time, them though?
Okay, the Jenna Ellis's of the world,
they'll get sentenced to prison.
>> Speaker 4: Yeah, they certainly
would have if they hadn't flipped.
And that's going to go to my point.
But I just want to double
down what Ana said.
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Trump world's dumbest man.
How do you not give money to
your co-defendants, you schmuck?
Of course they're gonna flip on you
if they have no money to defend
themselves, etc.
And besides which, you know you did it and
you know they did it.
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That's when you helped them the most,
you don't go, well,
I hope they take 20 years to life for me.
God, he's so pathetic and dumb.
Okay, anyway,
>> So
let me just let them know what she's
agreed to do because that's also relevant
for the commentary you're gonna give.
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So according to the details of this plea
agreement, Ellis agreed to complete three
to five years probation and
100 hours of community service and
pay $5,000 in restitution to
the Georgia secretary of state.
She also agreed to write a letter of
apology to the state of Georgia, something
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that every single one of these individuals
who took a plea deal agreed to do.
So that is the extent of the punishment
that she will face as a result
of her agreeing to this plea deal.
So, Cenk, go ahead.
>> Speaker 4: Yeah,
so, first of all,
that shows you two things.
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One, you get probation
of three to five years,
that means that I was doing
hyperbole with 20 years of life.
You're not gonna get life for this.
But by the way, coup against America,
I think you should get life.
But anyways, but realistically, that means
she would have gotten a very heavy
sentence if she had not cooperated, okay?
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But the second thing that it tells you is,
since she's not actually getting jail
time, she's getting probation, etc,
that means she gave pretty good evidence.
And so you don't take that deal
unless you got good evidence.
So now that's another giant mark
against Donald Trump, and he's reeling.
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Okay, now, why should you believe
her today as opposed to earlier?
Well, if she was telling the truth
earlier, and this election was stolen by
Biden on Hugo Chavez and A Kraken,
why wouldn't she just stick with that?
Why would she admit to
a crime she didn't do?
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Well, then she has to cry and beg,
and her career is ruined, and
she has to admit she did it, and
she gets three to five years probation,
and she gets all this, and
it goes on her criminal record.
You would never admit that if, A you
didn't do it, and B, you had Donald Trump
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behind you, who at this point is
now favored to win the election.
You'd be nuts to agree to something
you didn't do under that circumstance,
especially with all of
the political power behind you.
The only reason admitted at this point
is they had your debt to rights.
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They had all the evidence that you were
lying, and you were gonna go to jail for
a long time.
And so then you realized,
all right, the jig is up.
Yes, you got me, I was lying before, and
now I'm telling the truth because
I don't wanna go to jail.
And you had overwhelming evidence,
and I was gonna go to jail.
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That's why she's now telling the truth.
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