Oct 19, 2023
Josh Paul of the U.S. State Department's Bureau of Political-Military Affairs, wrote in his resignation letter that he believes the U.S. is contributing to more harm than good in its support for Israel.
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I'm looking right at you, President Biden.
Are you gonna be the president
that funds and enables a genocide?
Or are you gonna be the president
that puts your foot down and
stops the genocide?
That's what we're here to ask.
>> Speaker 2: The woman you just heard
from is with an organization known as
Jewish Voices for Peace,
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whose members were arrested just yesterday
as they were demanding a ceasefire
in the Gaza Strip while demonstrating in
the nation nation's capital yesterday.
Now while the Biden administration
remains steadfast in its unwavering and
unconditional support for the Israeli
government, there are some members
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within the administration,
within the state department specifically,
who have a problem with
the unconditional support as all of
these Palestinian civilians are being
reported killed in the Gaza Strip.
A US State Department official has
resigned over US Foreign Policy
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on Israel's war in Gaza.
Josh Paul is the individual here.
He served as the director of
Congressional and Public Affairs for
the US State Department's bureau
of Public Military Affairs.
So in his resignation letter,
Paul made which he made public.
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He makes clear that he has a problem
with the shipment of weapons to
Israel as the Palestinian
death toll continues to rise.
Paul helped oversee the transfer of US
weaponry to allies, a position that he
acknowledged was not without its moral
complexity and moral compromises.
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In recent days,
US shipments of ammunition and
so-called smart bombs and other
weaponry have arrived in Israel which
was already the largest recipient
of US military assistance.
The Biden administration is reportedly
preparing to ask Congress for
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another military package,
which will go to both Israel and
Ukraine to the tune of $100 billion.
>> Speaker 3: Ridiculous.
>> Speaker 2: And the Associated Press
reported that the Biden administration is
also getting US defense companies to
expedite weapons orders to Israel, so
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they can carry out this war that we're
currently all seeing before our very eyes.
Now with that said,
I wanna go to the letter that Paul put out
because I think it gives you a sense of
how much he's been struggling with
his role within the government.
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I made myself a promise that I would
stay for as long as I felt the harm I
might do could be outweighed
by the good I could do.
In my 11 years, I have made more
moral compromises than I can recall,
each heavily, but each with my
promise to myself in mind and intact.
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I'm leaving today because I believe
that in our current course with
regards to the continued,
indeed expanded and expedited provision
of lethal arms to Israel,
I have reached the end of that bargain.
And his resignation letter came
just hours after Biden embraced
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Israel's far right Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu in Tel Aviv and
reiterated his steadfast support for
Israel.
In response, Josh Paul said, I cannot
work in support of a set of major policy
decisions, including rushing more arms
to one side of the conflict that I
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believe to be short sighted,
destructive, unjust and contradictory to
the very values that we publicly espouse
and which I wholeheartedly endorse.
A world built around a rules-based order,
a world that advances both equality and
equity and a world whose arc of
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history bends toward the promise
of liberty and of justice for all.
And he isn't the only one to feel that
there are moral concerns in working for
the Biden administration and carrying
out these actions as this war continues.
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There are others who have
spoken to the Huffington Post,
HuffPost as it's called now to
say that they can't speak out.
And that if they do,
they might be retaliated against and
they might lose their positions
from these federal jobs.
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The UN Independent International
Commission of Inquiry on
the Occupied Palestinian Territory,
including East Jerusalem and Israel,
said in a report released earlier this
week that the damage and casualties caused
by Israeli attacks on Gaza were not
proportionate to the military advantage.
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And so the actions constitute a war crime.
The commission added that
the prevention of entry of food and
medical supplies into Gaza is a violation
of international humanitarian law.
So there are some people speaking out.
It's usually people outside of
the United States government.
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But in this case, you have someone who is
brave enough to not only speak out, but
give up his position,
give up the work that he's been
doing in order to speak out.
>> Speaker 3: So first of all,
this guy is an absolute American hero and
I wish we had more people in government
that had this kind of courage and
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principles and conscience.
Unfortunately, it's a breaking
news story cuz there's one,
we found one in the US government.
So thank you.
So now $100 billion, are you kidding me?
This is a joke.
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This is ridiculous.
Whenever we ask for
anything here for Americans,
paid family leave, higher wages,
public option, anything,
what's the one thing that all of cable
news screams at the top of their lungs?
Both Fox News, CNN and MSNBC, all of them.
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There's no money,
how are you gonna pay for that?
Well, for war, for want and destruction,
apparently, we have plenty of money.
>> Speaker 2: No, I want everyone
to accept what their actual role as
hardworking Americans happens
to be in the United States.
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We're just the piggy bank for
endless wars and for defense contractors,
that's what we are.
When it comes to our tax money,
actually, enriching our lives.
Improving our lives,
improving the lives of our brothers and
sisters here in the United States.
We don't have the resources for it.
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We don't have the resources for it, Cenk.
We can't do it.
We don't have the money for
it, but we will print money.
We will print money for two things.
Bailing out financial institutions and
paying for forever wars abroad,
that is what we will pay for.
We will print money for that.
>> Speaker 3: Everybody knows that's true.
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I mean, later in the show, we're gonna
tell you how the American people
have lost all faith in American media and
most of the American institutions, why?
Because we all know you're robbing us
to pay the defense contractors and
every other lobbyist there is and
the drug companies.
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It's disgusting, we stop robbing us.
So do we wanna help the Ukrainians?
Yes, have we funded them already a lot?
Yes, can you make an argument for
funding them more against in that case,
a war of aggression from Russia?
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Yeah, you could make that argument.
I'm open to that argument.
Should we help Israel with things like,
for example, intelligence?
Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Because look, intelligence is the most
important thing cuz Israel has every
right to go after Hamas and
you need intelligence to figure
out the difference between Hamas and
innocent Palestinians.
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If you say, no,
don't help them with intelligence,
that doesn't make any sense, right?
Well, the intelligence
at least the bombings.
Yeah, but those bombings
are at least intended to get
Hamas rather than dropping a giant
bomb on a residential building.
So yes, help them with intelligence,
but a hundred billion dollars?
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That's not even for Israel and
it's not for Ukraine.
It's for the piggy bank of gross,
disgusting defense contractors.
They go and bribe almost every
politician out there and those stupid,
lying politicians go out there.
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And go, yeah,
we need another $100 billion for you guys?
Hell, no way,
never to the American people.
Republicans, what the hell have you done?
Bunch of phony populists, what populism?
What, where?
America first, my ass.
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You never serve the Americans.
>> Speaker 2: So Cenk,
you bring up an important point and
I think we need to emphasize this, right?
Helping Israel with intelligence
is incredibly important,
because you wanna root out Hamas which
should not be conflated with Palestinian
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civilians who have also been
brutalized by Hamas in the Gaza Strip.
But see, you and I have enough brain
cells to understand the difference, but
Fox News likes to employ morons like Jesse
Watters, who can't tell the difference.
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And so they spew disgusting garbage
like what you're about to hear.
>> Speaker 4: I don't think we can have
a Palestinian state at this point.
I've had it with the Palestinians.
I've given up on the Palestinians.
If I was in Israel, I wouldn't be talking
about a Palestinian state right now.
I don't think Joe Biden should be talking
about a Palestinian state right now and I
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don't like how people try to differentiate
between the Palestinians and Hamas.
To me, I see people with guns,
that's Hamas.
The people without the guns
are the Palestinians.
They believe the same thing.
The Palestinians hire Hamas
to run their government.
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You pull them, they all love killing Jews.
It's in their charter.
They say they believe in suicide bombings.
Every time a Palestinian refugee
goes to another country,
it doesn't work out so well for the other
country and for those Palestinians.
No one wants them.
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>> Speaker 2: He's saying all
this is residential buildings
are being bombed in
the footage right next to him.
>> Speaker 3: Yeah, so
I don't have to say it, he said it.
He's declaring himself a racist and
he's saying,
I hate all Palestinians and
I don't care about them and
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he's showing you pictures of them being
killed and basically celebrating it.
I mean,
how disgusting a person do you have to be?
And this is the other side.
We say, hey, for God's sake,
care about the innocent Israelis and
the innocent Palestinians.
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And they say, no, kill the Palestinians.
Call them all terrorists and
then make up things like, they attack
people in every country they go in.
What an outrageous lie.
It just made that up 100%,
cuz Jesse Watters is a liar.
Almost everyone on Fox News lies for
a living, that's what they do.
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Like, who should we hate today?
Who should we try to get fear and
disgust, and anger towards,
and get all of our side riled
up to hate other human beings?
That's what they get
paid a lot of money for.
One of the Fox News anchors just
bought a $37 million house.
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>> Bret Baier, yep.
>> Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if the
brick and mortar is made out of blood for
all the hatred that Fox News
has driven in this world.
Rupert Murdoch is one of the most evil
people that has ever lived on this planet.
And so
all of these guys just brazenly admitting,
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why don't we just never give them a state,
never treat them as humans?
You're a disgusting person.
>> Speaker 2: So let me balance that with
another wonderful person because we talked
about a state department employee,
veteran of the department for 11 years,
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quitting his job over the foreign policy
toward this war in the Gaza Strip.
Well, now an employee, a senior researcher
with the Anti-Defamation League
has just announced that he is quitting
his position in the organization because
of his moral issues with the messaging
coming out of the organization.
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So I wanna read a little bit from him and
what he has to say.
His name is Stephen C Reya.
He focused on online hate and
harassment as a member of ADL Center for
Technology and Society.
He resigned,
because he couldn't square my morals and
politics with the direction I
saw the organization going in.
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I think that the ADL
does a lot of great work.
And trust me,
there are some amazing people there, but
there are times when you have
to stand up and say, enough.
So what does he mean?
Well, ADL's, Anti-Defamation League's
Director Jonathan Greenblatt
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has spurred indignation on the left for
labeling Palestinian human rights
campaigners as extremists.
And reports of dissent among ADL
staffers emerged earlier this year due
to Greenblatt's framing of
anti-Zionism as anti-Semitism.
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>> Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay,
so look, ADL is a very nuanced.
They've done some great work, but
Greenblatt is just he's out of control.
So anytime anyone criticizes one
single thing about the right-wing
government of Israel, he jumps in and
calls everybody anti-Semitic.
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Jonathan, I got news for you.
It isn't working anymore.
You've cried wolf 2 million times.
Look, there's massive anti-Semitism
in the country and in the world and
we're trying to help fight it together.
And we appreciate the ADL when they fought
against Muslim discrimination under
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Donald Trump.
But every time you make it political and
every time you defend the gross right-wing
government of Israel crushing and
killing Palestinians and
when we ask you to stop killing innocent
civilians or you go anti-Semite, what?
By the way, that's a slur against
your own people saying that what?
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Are you saying that you're all in
favor of killing innocent civilians?
>> Speaker 2: They're not.
>> Speaker 3: They're not,
you don't speak for them.
Stop slandering good Jewish Americans
by pretending that they're all in
favor of this murder and mayhem.
And that somehow,
it's anti-Semitic to speak out against.
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Look, other than old school
idiots in Washington and
a bunch of right-wingers online,
nobody's buying that line anymore.
That stuff used to work in the past.
I don't care,
you could say that 2,000 times over.
No one cares, it's not gonna work.
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There's real anti-Semites
shooting up synagogues.
And then when you could defend
the killing of innocent civilians and
pretend that's anti-Semitism to criticize
that, you lose all credibility.
This guy who left the ADL,
total American hero.
Now I'm gonna say something that I don't
know how anybody's gonna feel about it,
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but this is my true feelings.
I think that Jews in America are going
to actually save the Palestinians.
And so you could say, that's crazy.
I don't think you're right, Cenk, or
why would that make a difference?
Cuz at some point, Jewish Americans
have always like when you look at
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the different events in American history,
the civil rights movement,
you're fighting against the Muslim ban.
You're fighting against right-wing
extremism, you name it.
Jewish Americans have almost
always done the right thing.
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>> Speaker 2: That's right.
>> Speaker 3: And they've been
a pillar of morality in this country.
And right now,
young Jewish Americans are rebelling
at record rates going not in our names.
No way, not in our names, okay?
And I think that rebellion is
gonna grow and grow, and grow, and
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it's gonna go into the middle aged.
I don't know if it'll get to
the old because the older you are,
the more set you get in your ways.
Not everybody, not everybody.
But unfortunately,
I know from my experience as an immigrant.
Older Turks more set in their ways,
more obsessed with identity and
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younger generations are better and
see all of us as humanity.
So again, not all older people.
It's just general things, but
I believe that there's going
to be a movement among
Jewish Americans that say enough.
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Let him go, let him go.
End the occupation,
end this ridiculous cycle of violence and
how has it helped Israel?
How has it helped Jews in the world?
All it's done is gotten driven incredible
hatred towards Jews all across the world,
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because you won't end the occupation.
Everybody says, what are you doing?
How long are you gonna
brutalize these people?
So that's my sense of it.
Hope to God I'm right.
And I believe in Jewish Americans,
they have been the moral core of
this country for a long, long time.
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And I mean, America and
I think they're gonna do it again.
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