Oct 19, 2023
Sidney Powell must testify truthfully about her 18 co-defendants in the election interference case in Georgia. One of those co-defendants is former President Donald Trump.
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And ma'am, do you understand
that this is a negotiated plea,
which means that your attorney and I have
reached an agreement, or the state has
reached an agreement as to the proposed
sentence that will be made to the court?
>> Speaker 2: I do.
>> Speaker 1: Do you understand that the
recommendation being made to the court as
to this accusation on counts one through
six that you be sentenced to twelve months
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of probation to run
consecutive with one another?
>> Speaker 2: I do.
>> Speaker 2: Well, for
Trump campaign lawyer Sydney Powell,
looks like she's willing
to take plea deal.
Big fan of the art of the deal.
And this might mean bad news for
Donald Trump, who, of course,
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is indicted in the very same
Georgia election meddling case.
Now, Powell is one of the 18 co-defendants
in that case, and here's what we know.
She's pleading to six misdemeanor charges,
according to the agreement read in court,
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but will get about 12 months of probation
for each count, as well as a $6,000 fine.
She'll also have to pay about $2,700
restitution as part of the plea deal.
But the big get here is that she
will serve no time behind bars,
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my guess is that is the reason
why she took the plea deal.
But in order to take the plea deal, you
gotta be willing to testify in the case,
meaning testify against
your co-defendants.
So let's get to some of those details.
First off, I think it's worth
noting what the indictment says.
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So the indictment lists the charges that
she was facing, including conspiracy to
commit intentional interference with
performance of election duties.
Conspiracy to commit intentional
interference with performance of election
duties.
So two charges of that, election
interference again and again and again.
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And it really has to do with her
role in basically like breaking into
the Coffee County Election Office and
obtaining voting records
from the office itself, which is,
of course, a very serious crime.
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Now, here's more on what Sidney Powell
was facing in this case and
why she likely took the plea deal.
>> Speaker 3: If this case had gone to
trial, the state would have shown that on
between the dates of December 1
of 2020 and January 7 of 2021.
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The defendant, Sydney Powell, along with
several co-conspirators entered into
a conspiracy to intervene with
the performance of election duties of
co-defendant Misty Hampton,
also known as Emily Misty Hayes.
At all times relevant to the conspiracy,
Misty Hampton was the elections
director for Coffee County,
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Georgia and was subject to all duties
imposed by chapter 2 of Title 21 of OCGA.
The purpose of the conspiracy was to use
Misty Hampton's position to unlawfully
access secure elections machines
in Coffee County, Georgia.
The conspiracy included
the following objectives one,
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to willfully tamper with electronic
ballot markers and tabulating machines.
Two, to cause certain members of the
conspiracy who were not officers charged
by law with the care of ballots and
who were not persons
entrusted by any such officer with the
care of ballots for a purpose required by
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law to possess official ballots
outside of the polling place.
>> Speaker 2: So rather than deal with
that trial, she has instead decided,
all right,
I'll plead guilty to some misdemeanors.
She's pleading guilty to six counts
of conspiracy to commit intentional
interference with performance
of election duties.
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And as part of the agreement,
Powell must testify truthfully about any
co-defendants involved in the case and
provide all documents to the District
Attorney's office relevant to their case
against the other co-defendants, according
to Fulton County Judge Scott McAfee.
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So the Trump team is kinda pretending
like this is no biggie for
them, but I certainly would be concerned.
>> Speaker 4: Yeah, so
I hope that as part of the deal,
she also has to release the Kraken.
I've been waiting this whole time for
the Kraken, so
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I hope she's got that in her back pocket.
Okay, so, guys, we don't yet
know how important this is because
of one giant critical fact.
We don't know what they
talked to the prosecutors and
what deal they made behind the scenes.
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So we know she's getting
a super light punishment and
is testifying yes to others.
But if it's about, like, the one voting
machine in Georgia that they broke into,
yeah, that's obviously illegal,
there should be punishment for it.
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But that's a tiny thing,
if I'm being honest with you guys, right?
The real thing, if that's all they did,
I'd say, guys, let's get past this, okay?
>> Speaker 2: Really?
>> Speaker 4: Yeah.
>> Speaker 2: Breaking into voting?
>> Speaker 4: Yeah.
And I'll tell you why.
Don't get me wrong,
I'm not gonna let them off.
I'd say those guys, whoever they did it,
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should have faced significant criminal
penalties, but that's not a coup attempt.
It's one voting machine in Georgia, and
it's a bunch of right wing guys under
Trump, etc, and a bunch of local
yahoos going, we got this, okay?
But one voting machine isn't gonna make
the difference in the whole country.
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The real deal is the fake electors,
so that's an actual coup attempt.
So if she has the goods on how
they plan to overturn democracy,
if she knows and can help prove
that they knew they lost, but
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we're trying to use fake
electors to steal the election,
then this is the biggest thing
that's happened in a long time.
But if she comes in with some weak
sauce about a voting machine, this and
they were being mean, that,
those are that, then it's a waste of time.
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>> Speaker 2: For them to essentially give
her a slap on the wrist as part of this
plea deal, wouldn't she have to
prove that she's got the goods?
>> Speaker 4: Yeah, and so
that's why I don't know
the conversations that they had.
But remember, Anna, prosecutors really,
really wanna win in general.
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And so now, look, to be fair, Fonnie,
Willis has done a great job so far, right?
Very much in favor of how she's
handled this case so far, and
she's shown courage,
she's shown wisdom, etc.
So she's earned our trust to some degree.
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So I'm hoping she got this right.
But a lot of prosecutors will be,
I flipped somebody.
Yay me, and she'll testify, and she'll say
some things that'll help me a little bit.
Good enough, right?
And so I hope that Willis
hasn't done that, and so
she's gotta deliver the goods here, guys.
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And remember this,
this was not at all surprising to me.
If you watch Young Turks, I told you guys
earlier, and we told you guys that a lot
of the co-defendants were flipping on they
were they were all pointing their fingers.
And so we already knew she was
a sacrificial goat, right?
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So they were gonna throw
her under the bus.
So at some point, she'd have been nuts
not to get a deal with the prosecutors.
>> Speaker 2: Well, let me also just note
that even before anyone was indicted in
this case, well,
before anyone was indicted.
I remember that Sidney Powell,
in her public appearances, just was so
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unhinged that it even made the Trump
campaign uncomfortable with her.
So they started distancing
themselves with her.
>> Speaker 4: And that's the other
reason why they picked her to throw her
under the bus.
>> Speaker 2: Smart.
She'll go, hey,
>> Smart for her to decide to flip.
I mean, it wasn't so smart for the
co-conspirators, right, or co-defendants.
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>> Speaker 4: Yeah.
So since they did a little
bit of distancing from her,
they almost had to pick her
as the person to sacrifice.
So no, she's the one that did everything,
the rest of us were innocent.
She had the Kraken,
she had the Dump, she had the mules.
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It was all her and
that's why we distanced hers.
But they previewed that already.
Well, one of the things we found out is,
it turns out Sidney Powell isn't
crazy after all, because to stay on
the side that's throwing her onto
the bus would have been crazy.
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She would have gone to jail, she would
have gotten the most severe sentence, and
she would have gotten no
support from our co-defendants.
Now she walks away with a deal,
and I hope to God, like I said,
that it's a good deal that
gets us real information.
If she gave weak sauce information,
then, man, she skated.
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And then that would really bother me.
>> Speaker 2: So
we'll see how it plays out.
But I did wanna also fill you all in
on some of the other co-defendants,
including the man with the best
last name in this entire situation,
Mr Chesebro,, kenneth Chesebro, that is.
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Now, he refused to take a plea deal, so
he will stand trial, and if he's found
guilty, he will deal with the full extent
of the punishment that the judge decides.
An attorney, he was an attorney,
he's facing seven counts
after prosecutors said that he's the one
who drafted a strategy to use so
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called alternate electors to
prevent Joe Biden from receiving
the electoral college votes necessary
to basically make his win official.
Now, Sidney Powell is the second
person who has flipped.
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She's the second one to do a plea deal,
Scott Hall is the other individual.
He pleaded guilty to tampering
with voting machine equipment.
Now, Steve Sadow,
who is Trump's lead attorney in this case,
says, no sweat off my back.
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He told ABC News, quote, assuming truthful
testimony in the Fulton County case,
it will be favorable to my
overall defense strategy.
So he's either putting on a brave face or
he means it.
It's really hard to tell, but
we'll see how it plays out.
>> Speaker 4: Yeah, look,
Chesebro is gonna wind up being pivotal.
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And it's amusing that the guy
who's pivotal in this case is
the funniest name in the world.
But the reason why is,
he's one of the principal actors
in the fake electric scheme, right?
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So if he flips now ball game, ball game.
Now Trump's in trouble, okay?
If he doesn't flip and they throw, since
he's going first way before anyone else,
if they throw the book at him, if they
convict him and send him to prison for
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20 years.
You know what's gonna happen to the other
16 that have not cooperated yet
with the prosecutors?
Sweat is gonna go down their face,
all of their hair, makeup or
whatever it was on rude faces
is gonna flow down their faces.
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They're gonna be in a cold sweat
panic if that brother gets or
that Bro gets 20 years in jail, okay?
So let's go get Chesebro, if he did it,
obviously correct way through
the justice system, prove the fake
elector scheme and throw the book at him.
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