Senator, are you supportive of the Texas Supreme Court's ruling in a Kate Cox case that prevented her from getting an abortion after she learned her fetus was not viable? >> Speaker 2: Just call our press office. >> Speaker 1: I actually have for two days now, and I still haven't received an answer. >> Speaker 2: Thank you. [00:00:15] >> Speaker 2: [LAUGH] >> You little wussy. God, is he a little coward, a little weenie, a little possum-faced, craven, yellow bellied- >> Keep running. >> Slug of a human? Just call my office, please, leave me alone, I wanna get in this car and [00:00:30] not have to answer any questions. I didn't run for office to be asked my position on things that I've been very enthusiastic about in the past, I did it to eventually get a high price lobbying job. So get out of my face, peasant journalist. So that's Ted Cruz being asked, I think, [00:00:48] reasonable questions about why he suddenly doesn't wanna say anything about abortion. As Kate Cox, one of his constituents, was run out of her home state, she had to flee to actual civilization outside of the borders of Texas. [00:01:03] And suddenly he doesn't wanna say anything about it, when he's been really enthusiastic, as I said, talking about it before. Here's what he had to say right after Roe v Wade was overturned. >> Speaker 4: The consequence is not that abortion is suddenly illegal everywhere, the consequence is it returns to where it was the first 185 years [00:01:21] of our nation's history. Which is elected legislatures make that decision. That means in bright blue states, in states like New York and California, at least for the immediate, foreseeable future, there will be no restrictions whatsoever on abortion. In redder states, in states like my home state of Texas, [00:01:38] there will be significant and meaningful restrictions, and they'll vary state by state, reflecting the values and mores of the citizens. And if you disagree with the particular rules where you live, you can engage in the democratic process, and argue for what you think's right, that's how our constitution set it up. [00:01:58] >> Speaker 2: Okay, so what do you think is right, Ted? You're talking about values and mores, you mentioned consequences, by the way, here are the consequences of what this particular red state has set up. Is this in line with your values, your mores, or is it not, and [00:02:17] why are you so terrified to tell us? Honestly, who are you terrified of, are you terrified of turning off people who think that this is insane? Or do you actually think that it's wrong and you're terrified of angering [00:02:32] the right wing by pointing out that their policies are bat as crazy? Who is it that you're so scared of, Ted? Francesca, what do you think? >> Speaker 5: I have so many thoughts on this, but it is incredible just how pie in the sky and theoretical Ted Cruz likes to be. [00:02:49] And yes, the values and the mores, and our democratic process, and the constitution said that. No, it didn't, again, Roe v Wade established under the constitution because of the right to privacy, right? That was the constitutional basis that established Roe v Wade, [00:03:07] our right to privacy, our right to be able to terminate a pregnancy when we do not want to have children. And yes, up until a certain week, right? Always been the case under Roe v Wade, always been the case. And, yeah, the majority, 60% of people who seek abortions, already parents. [00:03:26] In the case of Kate Cox, already a mom of two, wants to be a mom of three. Now, will have to, and has finally been able to get the treatment that she deserves instead of watching her baby die in her arms as she was set up to do. This story is wild, look, the Internet loves to do this, [00:03:45] too, Twitter loves to do it, all the people you argue with online, we love to get into these sort of hypotheticals. Well, in truth, nobody provided the right to an abortion, and when the founding father, yeah, the founding fathers were all dudes, all right? [00:04:01] They thought about their, you know what, that's it. But in practice, it means women bleeding out in their cars from miscarriages, it means, yeah, people going to back alley abortions, trying to induce abortions themselves, right? [00:04:17] And horrifyingly burying the fetus in their backyards, I mean, this is disturbing stuff, right? But again, this is what happens when you restrict people's right to have an abortion. And final thought, John, Texas leads, I think it's Florida and Texas, in line for [00:04:34] the least insured state in the country, meaning people don't have health care. So, already, Kate Cox is in a point of privilege because she clearly was able to see doctors who then, of course, refused to treat her, but she had access. [00:04:51] Do you know how many Kate Coxes there are and will be in the state of Texas right now? People whose stories we will never hear about? >> Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's a great point to make as well. Yeah, utterly insane, no one can stand there and say that what happened, [00:05:08] not hypothetical, what literally happened should be acceptable. So they are just not saying it, they're continuing the same system, they are guaranteeing that there will be more Kate Coxes. But none of them has the balls to actually, say no. [00:05:24] This is, I just don't care, I don't care about Kate Cox. This is about ideology to me, I don't see humans, I'm an ambitious sociopath and perfectly fine with these things happening again. That's what they think, they just won't say it. [00:05:42] Probably wise, wouldn't play well. [MUSIC]