May 6, 2026
CNN Panel Gets TESTY Over Israel's Nuclear Program
CNN political commentator Van Jones argued that Israel should NOT have to be transparent about its nuclear program.
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And now that there is a hot war in the Middle
East, does that change the calculus? What is
the point? We already know that they have nukes.
If the United States forces them to cough up
the furball, how is that in the interest of
the United States? I'm sure there's some point.
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I just don't know what the point is. Can anybody
explain to me, how does it... It seems to me
it's just another attempt to, on the, for the
left wing of my party. to throw a rock at Israel.
All right, so last night CNN's uh commentator
Van Jones argued that there would be no point
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for Israel to disclose that it has a clandestine
nuclear program, is not part of the nonproliferation
treaty, and pretends to be a victim endlessly
even though they literally have nuclear weapons
that guarantees that whether they have a right
to exist or not, they will exist because they
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have nukes. Now, I appreciate that Abby Philip
there pushed back a little bit, but let's talk
about this in more detail. So first, let's explain
some of the context here. On Monday, 30 House
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Democrats urged the Trump administration to
do the right thing, which means he won't do
it. And basically stand against Israel by acknowledging
that Israel has a nuclear program. Now for
all hatred that some on the left want to direct
at Congress, former Congresswoman Marjorie
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Taylor Greene. You do have to give her credit
for the fact that she stood on the House floor
and gave a speech where she repeatedly drew
attention to Israel's clandestine nuclear program.
And I really appreciated that. Because while
I know about the clandestine nuclear program,
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most Americans don't know. Most on the right
certainly didn't know, because it's something
that's been concealed from the American public.
I mean, there's reports about it, but you really
have to do some digging. It's not like something
that comes up in every article where Israel
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is fear mongering about Iran's nuclear weapons,
which don't even exist. See, if you're doing
accurate journalism every single time you're
quoting an Israeli fear mongering about Iran,
you would also mention that Israel has nuclear
weapons, but they don't. So I appreciated
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that Marjorie Taylor Greene informed the general
public about the reality of the situation.
But anyway, specifically going back to the
Democrats, the 30 House Democrats who are urging
Trump to acknowledge Israel's nuclear arsenal.
They write a letter and it reads in part,
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we are in the fullest sense fighting this war
side by side with a country whose potential
nuclear weapons program the United States government
officially refuses to acknowledge. The risks
of miscalculation, escalation and nuclear or.
Yeah, nuclear use in this environment are
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not theoretical. They certainly are not theoretical,
and I'm going to prove that to you in just
a moment. A 1974 special national intelligence
estimate, a formal consensus assessment of
the entire US intelligence community, including
the Central Intelligence Agency, the Defense
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Intelligence Agency, and the State Department's
Bureau of Intelligence and Research. concluded
that Israel already has produced nuclear weapons.
The document was uh classified top secret
for nearly 32 years before being declassified
and released in 2008. And then finally, they
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end their letter by simply saying, we ask you,
President Trump, to hold Israel to the same
standard of transparency that the United States
expects from any other country that may be
pushing or pursuing, I should say. that may
be pursuing or retaining nuclear weapons capability.
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Now, with that in mind, let's turn to the
CNN panel which was discussing this topic.
Now, before Van Jones made his case, presidential
historian Tim Naftali uh explained the history
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of Israel's nuclear program. Let's take a look
at that. Some people out there might not know
this, but the United States government tried
really hard. prevent Israel from having nuclear
weapons. was not in the national interest
of the United States um under the administration
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of Dwight Eisenhower and John F. Kennedy and
Lyndon Johnson for Israel to have the bomb.
The French engaged in a covert operation with
Israel to help Israel build its capacity.
The French were not straightforward with us
about it and the Israelis were not straightforward
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with us. By the end of the 60s, you have a new
administration comes into town and the Israelis,
the French have changed their policy and they're
now not selling weapons to Israel anymore.
The Israelis come to our government and say,
we'd like to buy F-4s, phantom bombers. We're
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willing to do that, but we say to the Israelis,
but you've got to announce that you will never
introduce nuclear weapons into the Middle East.
And we were afraid that if the Israelis announced
that they had nuclear weapons, the Egyptians
would go to the Soviets and say, would you
give us a nuclear guarantee? And we'd find ourselves
in a Cuban missile crisis, but in the Middle
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East. the Nixon administration, which by the
way, the joint chiefs of staff didn't want
Israel to have nuclear weapons, the State Department
didn't want them. Really, none of the leaders
in that administration wanted them to have nuclear
weapons, but they had them. And so the US government
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came up with this fix, which was basically,
don't say to the world that you have them.
um And don't introduce them. In other words,
don't assemble a weapon. We'll sell you phantoms
because the administration was afraid that if
they didn't sell phantoms to um Israel, members
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of Congress who were supportive of Israel would
say, why aren't you helping the Israelis out?
And the US government didn't want to say, we're
not helping them because they have nuclear
weapons. Okay, they have nuclear weapons. Okay,
they have nuclear weapons, they stole nuclear
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secrets, they stole enriched uranium. Okay,
that's what happened, that's what Israel did.
And for whatever reason, Van Jones doesn't
think it's a big deal. It's a clandestine nuclear
program based on stolen enriched uranium from
the United States or stolen materials from
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the United States, stolen secrets from the United
States. That is the reality of the situation.
Van Jones couldn't care less, apparently. She,
I wonder why, okay, so. So he did get a little
bit of pushback from Abby Phillip, which you
saw in the earlier video. And I want you to
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look at a longer version of that clip. Take
a look. I mean, we do, I mean, look. I'm asking
an honest question. Why? I mean, there been
some rumor that says that Israel is going to
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nuke Iran? Here's the thing. guess the question
is, again, now, there's been a change of status
quo. There's a war between the United States,
Israel and Iran that is going on right now
in the Middle East. And under those circumstances,
that is actually different from what we've
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been experiencing for the last 40, 50 years.
And so under those circumstances, there's only
one power in the Middle East that has a nuke
and it's Israel. And so the question is, What
are the circumstances? What are the boundaries?
Are there any boundaries? They don't acknowledge
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that they have them. I appreciate her saying
that because it's I mean, it needs to be said.
And so um he doesn't think it's that big of
a deal. Now, I think it's a big deal. I think
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it's a huge deal and I want to explain why.
We've already been threatened with Israel's
nuclear weapons. You heard me right, I just
said that. Israel has, or at least figures
in Israel have threatened to use nuclear weapons
against us if we don't give them what they
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want. Now that would be a big mistake, okay?
And the whole thing about nuclear weapons
is when you're threatening another nuclear power,
uh you are egging on mutually assured destruction.
Let's be clear about that. So stupid move.
But when we talk about the threat, it's coming
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from a stupid person. And I'm talking about
Jonathan Pollard, notorious traitor to the
United States, a US born former CIA official
who uh betrayed the United States by providing
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US secrets to the Israelis. He got caught doing
that and went to prison for it. Unfortunately,
during the Obama administration, he was offered
parole. This was, I believe, in 2015. Big mistake.
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He should have never been released from prison.
He should have rotted there. He should have
died there. I would have wanted a punishment
even worse than that, but okay, life in prison,
it would suffice. He was a traitor to our
country. Sold our secrets to the Israelis
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and then the Israelis at the time we were enemies
with the Soviets. uh They provided our secrets
to the Soviets. mean just treacherous behavior.
uh But anyway, Obama offered him parole in
2015. It was like a humanitarian thing. I guess
he had fallen ill in prison where he deserved
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to die. But then later, Trump in his first
administration allowed him to fly back to Israel.
And that's exactly what Jonathan Pollard did.
He flew back to Israel. I shouldn't even say
back to Israel. He wasn't born in Israel, he
was born in the United States. But he flew
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to Israel to safety with the people he actually
cares about, the country he actually cares
about. And he did so on uh the Adelson jet.
So he got to fly to Israel in class, right?
And then what did he do after that? I'll give
you a little taste. uh This is a video. of
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Jonathan Pollard speaking to Israeli media
and bragging about threatening the United
States uh with Israel's nuclear weapons. Let's
take a look. Well, I believe that the O'Biden
administration, as I called it, did threaten
us. But I said, you're mistaken if you think
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there's never a choice. There was a choice.
He said, well, what, does it have our weapons
cut off? I said, no, let me bring you back to
October 1973. during the Yom Kippur War when
Henry Kissinger instituted an arms embargo against
us. He stopped the aerial resupply of our army
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at that point to extract diplomatic concessions
from us. And what happened? What happened was
an A4 Skyhawk was parked at Telnof Air Base.
with some interesting weapons under its wings.
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And we told the Americans, take your eye in
the sky and take a good look at the airplane
that's on that runway. And the next day the
airlift started. So the guy that I was talking
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Which airlift? To Israel, the arms airlift.
So in other words, we threatened their- We
threatened to use unconventional weapons. I'll
leave it at that. Threaten to use nukes. By
the way, Biden threatened the Israelis. Are
you kidding me? Well, what did Biden threaten
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the Israelis with? We're going to withhold
some of the bombs that we've been providing
to you because it looks bad that we're providing
the bombs that you're dropping on children's
heads in Gaza? That's deserving of a nuclear
threat? That's our ally. So you guys understand
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why I'm so heated about and passionate about
how I think Jonathan Pollard should have rotted
and died in prison. By the way, he's uh making
a political run in Israel as we speak. I don't
know if he's running for prime minister. I saw
a headline about it, but imagine Jonathan
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Pollard, US born traitor to the United States,
now serving as Israel's prime minister. And
considering the trend that we've been seeing
for decades now where our government pleasures
Israel regardless of who's in charge, that'll
be a real bad day in America if he wins and
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our government is deferential to a guy who was
a convicted traitor to the US anyway. So yeah,
to Van Jones, it does matter. It does matter.
And so with all that information that I've
just given you, I want to go back to the very
first video we played and I want to watch it
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again. And I want you to hear what Van Jones
said to Abby Phillip as she made her case
for informing or uh pressuring the Israelis
to acknowledge that they have nuclear weapons
in the first place. Take a look. But now that
there is a hot war in the Middle East, does
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that change the calculus? What is the point?
We already know that they have nukes. If the
United States forces them to cough up the furball.
How is that in the interest of the United States?
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I'm sure there's some point, I just don't know
what the point is. Can anybody explain to me,
how does it, it seems to me it's just another
attempt to on the left wing of my party to
throw a rock at Israel. Is that what it is?
It's just the people to the left of you, Van
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Jones, those wacky radicals. Who are calling
for this, calling for Israel to acknowledge
that they have nuclear weapons, radicals who
are concerned about a traitor to the United
States threatening to use Israel's clandestine
nuclear arsenal against the US. Only radicals
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are worried about that. What a clown, an embarrassment.
I hope the money's worth it, man. I hope the
money's worth it. Dude was freaking making jokes
about dead kids in Gaza not too long ago and
he has the audacity to tell us, this is irrelevant.
So unfair to Israel asking them to acknowledge
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their nuclear weapons. Poor, poor Israel.
Anyway, going back to Jonathan Pollard real
quick, because I have one other thing to say
about him. Just to give you a sense of how
sadistic that piece of crap is. He wants Gazans
wiped off the face of the map, and I'm not
kidding. In fact, he wants to represent that
policy in the Knesset. And uh Pollard stated
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the following. I personally prefer the forcible
removal of all current residents of Gaza. and
the annexation of Gaza and its repopulation
by us, meaning the Israelis. Last year, US
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Ambassador uh to Israel, Mike Huckabee, met
with Pollard in private, did not inform the
White House about it. Our government had no
idea, allegedly. And he invited Pollard to
the US Embassy. So the US Embassy is considered
American soil. So that traitor step foot on
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American soil met with our ambassador to Israel
without anyone in the government knowing about
it. And uh we're supposed to be mad at Tucker
Carlson because his line of questioning toward
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Huckabee was naughty. It was offensive to the
Israelis, good, good. I hope they're offended
every day, all day, because they deserve much
worse than that. Anyway, ah this generated
a lot of bad press, but Huckabee still remains
in his position. So there we are. uh But it
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