Well, Genk, as you mentioned, the latest batch of Epstein files contain passages so damaging to President Donald Trump that his Department of Justice came out to call them fake news. And we'll get into some of these really horrific details. [00:00:15] But what do you make, Jake, before we get into that, of this spin attempt by the DOJ to try to dissuade people from giving any of these files any weight? Yeah, there's one letter in there that I'm pretty much positive is fake. And so we'll share that with you guys too. [00:00:32] And so I'm worried that that's going to discredit the rest. No. Make a decision on each individual piece of evidence by itself. The other parts are very damning. So let's analyze it one by one and see what's real and what isn't. [00:00:48] First, a warning to the viewer. Some of the material we're going to cover is very graphic and very disturbing. This morning, like we said, the DOJ released almost 30,000 new Epstein files. The department also issued a statement that read some of these documents [00:01:05] contain untrue and sensationalist claims made against President Trump that were submitted to the FBI right before the 2020 election. To be clear, the claims are unfounded and false, and if they had any shred of credibility, they certainly would have been weaponized [00:01:22] against President Trump already. Nevertheless, that of our commitment to the law and transparency, the DOJ is releasing these documents with the legally required protections for Epstein's victims. Now, let's dive into those untrue and cessation sensationalist claims [00:01:38] as they describe them. We'll start with a letter that Jeffrey Epstein allegedly wrote to Larry Nassar. And if you aren't familiar, don't remember Larry Nassar. He's the former team doctor of the US women's national gymnastics team. He was charged with sexually abusing over 250 young women and girls. [00:01:58] Epstein seemingly wrote the letter when he was in jail in 2019. It reads in part, as you know by now, I have taken the short route home. Good luck. We shared one thing our love and caring for young ladies at the hope they'd reach [00:02:14] their full potential. Our president shares our love of young, nubile girls. When a young beauty walked by, he loved to grab, snatch. Whereas we ended up snatching grub in the mess halls of the system. The Department of Justice has disputed the authenticity of that letter, [00:02:33] posting on Twitter today, the Department of Justice is currently looking into the validity of this alleged letter from Jeffrey Epstein to Larry Nassar, and we will follow up as soon as possible. In the meantime, three facts stand out. The postmark on the envelope is Virginia, not New York, where Jeffrey Epstein [00:02:50] was jailed at the time. The return address listed the wrong jail where Epstein was held and did not include his inmate number, which is required for outgoing mail. The envelope was processed three days after Epstein's death. Later today, the DOJ announced they had officially determined the letter was fake. [00:03:09] For what it's worth, others like drop sites, drop Site News's Ryan Grim have reached the same opinion. Here's another excerpt from The Epstein Files. It has to do with a tipster who shared a chilling story about Trump. The details came from an FBI document, which is dated October 2020. [00:03:27] It is difficult to decipher because it is heavily redacted, but from what we can gather, in 1999, the tipster was telling a woman about his experience meeting Donald Trump as a limo driver in response to that story. The woman told the tipster that Trump raped her. [00:03:45] Here are some excerpts from that FBI document. During redacted time as a driver, he had met Donald Trump, redacted noted he picked up the president in 1995 and took him to the DFW airport, redacted noted. [00:04:01] Trump continuously stated the name Jeffrey while on the phone and made references to abusing some girl. Now, this part is harder to parse because both the tipster and the woman's name are redacted. As redacted talked about his time meeting Donald Trump. [00:04:17] Redacted immediately redacted demeanor went stone cold as redacted stated he raped me. Redacted said what? As redacted, replied Donald J. Trump had raped her along with Jeffrey Epstein. Redacted noted, some girl with a funny name [00:04:34] took me into a fancy hotel or building. That's how it happened. Redacted advised to call the police regarding the incident as redacted stated I can't. They will kill me. One day later, the woman told the tipster that she changed her mind and told [00:04:49] the police about what happened to her. Sometime later, the tipster found out that that woman was dead and her death was ruled a suicide. Redacted reached out to redacted, stating was dead, and noted she was found with her head blown off in Kiefer, Oklahoma. [00:05:06] Officers on the scene and redacted stated there was no way it was a suicide. Coroner stated it was a suicide. Redacted feels the murder is cover for Ghislaine and we've got a lot more. But I want to bring you in here. Both of these might seem fishy, especially the former. [00:05:24] What do you make of both of these? Yeah. No, I have very different opinions on those two things. So the first letter, the minute I read it, I thought, this is BS. So. And in fact, I don't want that letter disregarded. [00:05:41] I want to attract because whoever sent that letter, it might be a rando. Right. Or it might be someone who actually did the killing of Jeffrey Epstein. Why? Because there's a million things wrong with that letter. First of all, nothing's misspelled. [00:05:57] Jeffrey Epstein couldn't spell if his life depended on it. Okay. And so that's just like, tiny little clue number one. Number two. Really, Epstein, one of the worst child abusers is talking to Larry Nassar, the other super terrible child abuser. [00:06:13] And they say, but Trump is worse than us, man, that is awfully convenient. Right. And then the third thing on top of that is, Oh, I am going to take the shortcut home. As you will soon find out, I am committing suicide. [00:06:29] It is definitely suicide. Is it, brother? Is it so? That's what I was thinking even before we found out. Oh, it was mailed three days after he died and or processed at least three days after he died. And, and and, you know, from the wrong place to the wrong place. [00:06:46] ET cetera. ET cetera. So that is, it has at least a 99% chance of being fake. But who faked it? And why did they insist? Remember, I'm taking the shortcut home. Meaning suicide. [00:07:01] It felt a little like Tyler Robinson's engraved bullets. Remember, I am doing this because I am a leftist and I do not like those fascist right wingers. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. And remember, it was just me and no one else. [00:07:16] He writes that in all the text. Maybe. Maybe. Okay, but this. That letter is fake. Eight ways to Sunday. All right, so number two, now you get to the the rape charges and the lady who lost her life. Well, look, I have no reason to believe that's fake. [00:07:32] And I have no reason to believe it's real. Well, I have a reason to believe it's real. It's in the files, right. On the other hand, so is the fake letter. So I'm at a I don't know, but here's what I do know. Should that be investigated? Of course. Was it already investigated? Some of the stuff goes back to 1995. [00:07:50] If it wasn't investigated, then I become 10,000 times more curious if there's a witness saying this lady was raped by two powerful people. It doesn't matter what their names are. Could have been Bill Clinton and Larry Summers, I don't care, right? But two very powerful and wealthy people raped this girl. [00:08:07] And then all of a sudden, she blows her head off after she was worried they were going to kill her brother. You better look into that in a big, big way before you dismiss it as I bet. That's crazy. Nothing. Nothing to see. Is it true that the local cops thought there's no way it's a suicide? [00:08:22] I mean, look, a lot of the Epstein victims wound up committing suicide, including Epstein, right? Giuffre. They say Virginia Giuffre committed suicide. Yeah, I know, she said she was depressed, etc.. But that's also usually a good cover story. So, look, it's. [00:08:38] If it's not investigated thoroughly, then I turn around and go, that's super weird. Why wouldn't you investigate that no matter who was involved. So no, that one we have no reason to believe is fake. And I certainly wouldn't just trust it on its face alone. [00:08:56] Both of them require significant investigation, but the fact that the if the second one was not adequately investigated, that would be another red flag. Yeah. I'm. I'm with you on the first one. I would need to be proven otherwise, but until then, [00:09:12] I'm just going to assume that someone who tried to send in a fake letter again, they I don't want to credit the DOJ or anything like that, but the timing on some of these are very suspicious. It's all right in the run up to the election. It it's a mess. [00:09:27] Any if you look at some of the early files that were released, they're taking from everything. It wasn't just stuff that they gathered through their own, intelligence gathering or their own investigation. It was just catch all. Anything that could possibly relate. [00:09:43] That's why you had an entire page by page scan of someone's book and the first batch of documents. So this I think for the most part, that letter is just somebody being a crank. Maybe not, but I would need to see evidence otherwise. That also addresses like the the really suspicious flags about the date where it [00:10:04] was postmarked, that kind of stuff. On the other one, we could I mean, maybe there will be an investigation, certainly not by the DOJ, but even like local reporters in Kiefer, Oklahoma can look up and see if there was a suicide around that time and you [00:10:21] could find in the police records if there was something like that, that would validate that major point in that story. So I would hope that The Oklahoman or local affiliates around there would take a look at that. But until then, I would just need more evidence. [00:10:36] But we've got more that they have released, and we'll end with an email from 2020. We don't know who sent or received that email, but both have been redacted. All we know is that whoever sent the email was serving as an assistant US attorney [00:10:51] in the Southern District of New York. Here's what they wrote. Wanted to let you know that the flight records we received yesterday reflect that Donald Trump traveled on Epstein's private jet many more times than previously has been reported, or that we were aware, including during the period we would [00:11:08] expect to charge in a Maxwell case. In particular, he is listed as a passenger on at least eight flights between 1993 and 1996, including at least four flights on which Maxwell was also present. He is listed as having traveled with, among others, and at various times, [00:11:26] Marla maples, his daughter Tiffany, and his son Eric on one flight in 1993. He and Epstein are the only two listed passengers on another. The only three passengers are Epstein, Trump and then 20 year old Redacted [00:11:43] on two other flights. Two of the passengers, respectively, were women who would be possible witnesses in a Maxwell case. Jack, this one to me has a lot more weight and is way more damning from Trump. - What do you think? - Yeah. So look to me that did Epstein and Trump party together? [00:12:04] Well, that's not in question. They definitely did. Did they have, relationships with women in questionable ways, which I'll explain in a minute. Of course they did. Right. So was it with underage girls? I don't know, we know with Epstein, we don't know with Trump. [00:12:20] So that brings us back to the same place. It's possible that you go on that plane and you don't go to what they're calling rape Island, right? It's possible you go to different places. Lots of powerful people and connected people knew Jeffrey Epstein. They didn't all do it. Okay. Now, having said that, he said he wasn't on the plane, [00:12:38] and now it turns out very likely. He was on the plane many, many times. So that's another big red flag, right? So there are other things in the documents. So there's a mysterious, subpoena of, Mar a Lago and who's working for, [00:12:58] who was working for them at a time when, the poaching from Mar a Lago might have happened by Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. So why is that stuff redacted? What was the subpoena about? And then you connect it to the other, development. [00:13:14] That's, from today where, there's a witness who said that there was a woman named Ghislaine Lisa Villeneuve. I don't know if that's a name that Ghislaine used, otherwise saying that, that they were going to go to a party at Mar a Lago and Ghislaine told them, don't. [00:13:34] That party is just for prostitutes. So did they have parties with basically prostitutes coming in to service the older, wealthier men. Hard to know. But on the other hand, that one seems super real. [00:13:52] Like, if you think that doesn't happen with wealthier dudes, I my experience in covering the news tells me that it does. So, guys, I wish we could tell you we know definitively on any of this stuff, [00:14:07] but they redact so many, so much of it, and there's some stuff in there that's just total bogeys and it makes you wonder about the rest. So that's why it's hard to reach definitive conclusions on any of these. But I brought that up in the context of the jet, because if you told me [00:14:24] Trump and Epstein are flying around and having sex with youngish like 20 year old but grown but adults, right? Prostitutes throughout the country, the world, etc., I'd believe that in a flat second. In fact, I'd be really surprised if it didn't happen. [00:14:41] Okay, so and here's some evidence that it did happen. You do that with that what you will. Jordan, do you reach any conclusions from this. On this one? I mean, this is something he's disputed, right. [00:14:57] His the whole time he's oh we I knew him, but I cut him off there saying, look, not only were they close, we knew that there's photos and videos of that proving that they were close, but I I'm almost certain he disputed ever being on that plane. [00:15:14] And now we know not only was he on it, he was on it a lot. And I think at this point where he he said it was the this redacted name said, including during the period we would expect to charge in a Maxwell case, [00:15:29] something that Trump has long maintained is that their friendship ended before any of this stuff was known and the reporting, especially over the past several months, has shown. No, no, it was maybe at its peak during that period where it was publicly known. [00:15:48] I mean, the the letters, the acknowledgment, the, the association extended well beyond when Trump will admit that they were friends. And this adds another layer to that and another piece of supporting evidence that not only were they close. [00:16:05] They were close when everybody knew that this was going on. Yeah, last couple of things for me. Look, guys, if you think nothing untoward happened when Trump and Epstein were friends for decades, you're cray cray. [00:16:21] Of course, bad things happen. The only question is how bad? Right? And all this circumstantial evidence about what was happening at Mar a Lago and the muscles that worked there, and the women who work there, and the poaching back and forth between Epstein and Trump. [00:16:37] That also is problematic. And how problematic? It's I it's frustrating that it's nearly impossible to know right now. Right. So but I think we could all agree on what Marjorie Taylor Greene is saying. [00:16:53] Believe it or not, that's a funny sentence that I didn't think I'd speak two years ago. Anyway, she tweeted, this is horrifying. Trump called me a traitor for fighting him to release Epstein files and standing with women who were raped, jailed in stalls and trafficked to men. [00:17:09] Only evil people would hide this and protect those who participated. I pray for these women. So no matter what you think about the veracity of every piece of evidence in here, and by the way, she refers to the stalls because there was another story about how Epstein kept [00:17:26] some of the girls in stalls like horses, and the men would come by and check out the the goods and then select. Oh, I like crazy stuff. Okay. And so that's why she refers to that. So we can all agree they all hit it, right? [00:17:45] So no matter who did it, Trump hit it all. The Democrats hit it. They all all the presidents hit all of this information. And look, Jordan, there's an extra layer of skepticism that I have here because as a lot of the and the stuff that's the most fake, [00:18:05] in some ways it keeps pointing to Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. I have every incentive in the world to say that it's Trump. I don't like Trump at all. I've never liked him. I think he's a giant con man. I think he's bad for the country, okay, very bad for the country. [00:18:20] But as the everything is saying, oh, look there, look there, look there. It's like a magician's trick. You should be looking somewhere else. And and in none of these articles from traditional media. Do they ever talk about the intelligence agencies? [00:18:37] So Epstein was somehow involved in the Iran-Contra affair, was organizing planes and making deals between the Israeli secret intelligence and US secret intelligence and the Iranians as a civilian as, oh, golly gee, [00:18:55] I wandered into the middle of Iran-Contra. Right. But yet we're told, look there, look there, squirrel, squirrel, squirrel. But never, ever mention the intelligence agencies. So when I see, oh, Epstein committed suicide, but there's no video of the hallway. [00:19:12] There's no guards, there's no nothing. And then there's a convenient postcard. Remember Larry Nassar, it is us and Donald Trump together. And, I am committing suicide of my own volition. Okay, man. Yeah, I don't know. Look at the intelligence agencies. [00:19:30] - That is by far the most likely answer. - Yeah. And first of all, the reason we're seeing this is because of the discharge petition from Thomas Massie, a Republican, and Ro Khanna, a Democrat. [00:19:46] Trump, his administration denied these existed. They said they didn't have anything. They said, there's nothing to see here. We've released everything. And then once they forced that discharge petition, got enough signatures, it was mostly Democrats joining them. And I think Marjorie Taylor Greene did as well. [00:20:03] Then did you see Republicans in Congress join to vote for the support or vote for it? Supported it. And that's because, in part, also public pressure also on the right. They were worried this was going to come back and bite them. They ran on it. They promised it. [00:20:19] He had to do it. But to your point, Jenk, the one exception, in addition to victims names was national security. So if it is in there and it might be, we're not going to see it, they are going to redact the hell out of anything about intelligence agencies, [00:20:37] domestic or otherwise. All right. Well, I'll make one promise here. And and people should hold me to it. If if if it's a giant. If of all ifs. I am involved in any candidate that winds up making it into the white House who would very, very likely be a left wing populist. [00:20:54] It would be an enormously high priority for us to tell you what actually happened with Epstein. And if the CIA or anyone else comes in and goes, no, you don't understand. We had to do this for the benefit of the American people. I would hope that any candidate that I supported would say, [00:21:11] my ass, you had to do it. You're all under goddamn arrest. If if they did it. Okay. And trot them out and show you who's the sons of bitches who's been doing this all along. Every time you ring the bell below, an angel gets his wings. Totally not true. [00:21:26] But it does keep you updated on our live shows.