Hold on. Hold on. So what happened? Everything was. All the pogroms were disgusting. That doesn't mean that. The real question here is, do the Millers have anything else in their toolbox other [00:00:15] than threatening citizenship or revoking citizenship when their feelings are hurt? Because that was Katie Miller, Stephen Miller's wife. Threatening to revoke your citizenship because you were too critical of Israel and her. So and so you're going to see later that she thinks that if you criticize Israel, [00:00:34] you're criticizing her children. And if you beat her in a debate, she's going to try to have her husband denaturalize and deport you. - So what I want you to. - How about this? I, I would like to propose a challenge. The don't feed into the tropes challenge. [00:00:53] Yeah. How does this not feed into tropes? Yeah. So we don't control anything. But you criticize Israel, we're kicking you out of the country, and we're taking away your citizenship. Look, first they started with people who had had student visas. I'm an American citizen. Now they're on to citizens 100%. Okay, so if you dare criticize Israel, no First Amendment rights, [00:01:13] no freedom of speech, no. This government is going to target you on behalf of the Israeli government, and you're going to see Katie Miller threatening it on, on air live. And then I'll respond today, now that I heard her say, because when we were debating, I didn't hear her threaten my citizenship, I have a response. [00:01:30] Well, let me take you all for a ride. Okay. We're going to set this up, kind of show how this was building up in the context of this Piers Morgan interview. So the conversation centered on the New York City mayoral race. And as you can imagine, since you have Zoran Mamdani, who is Muslim, [00:01:45] involved and poised to win that race, it will bring out the bigots like Katie Miller, who immediately attack right, and talk about how he's going to destroy everything. So, as we all know, Zoran Mamdani has been smeared as some sort of jihadist [00:02:01] and an anti-Semite because he won't declare fealty to Israel. But Miller had a different perspective. Let's take a look. Why is it that every time someone wants to criticize Mamdani, it immediately comes back to the Jews and the anti-Israel movement instead of actually talking about his viewpoints, which is that he wants. [00:02:18] To make Jews. You just said it. You always do that. We say Israel, you say Jews, we say Israel is a government. Please don't make it about Jewish Americans and you come back. You have to make it about Jewish Americans. What's wrong with you? What's wrong with you? [00:02:33] Israel, a Jewish state. Yes or no? First of all, okay, so. - The Muslim state, you can criticize all. - Day long, all day long. There's no special protection. Because what you're doing is you're decoding language that calls itself a Jewish state or Muslim state should not be here and. [00:02:49] We should not be in existence, and that you would be happy for other people. - Like I want Israel. - To be safe. Nothing of the sort. Nonsense. You're totally lying. It's very normal for a. Miller to be completely and utterly lying. So I got to say this standard, this double standard actually [00:03:06] is pretty hilarious because okay, I'll give you another example. Our government, whether we're talking about a Democratic led government or Republican led government, it doesn't matter. There's been a lot of tough talk and a lot of criticism toward China. [00:03:22] Oh that's it. They hate the Chinese. They hate the Chinese people. No, you're being critical of a government. I might not agree with the criticism. That's where we can have dialog and a debate. But when it comes to Israel. Oh, no criticism allowed. She got hurt real quick in this exchange, like right away. [00:03:40] Yeah. So she's not a very good debater. So she skipped to the anti-Semitic stuff when she's supposed to wait and wait for you to trigger one of the million tropes that they've laid out there, like landmines. Right? And once you step on a landmine by criticizing Israel in any way, shape [00:03:57] or form, that's when she's supposed to pretend to be aggrieved and be the victim. Right? So, for example, you'll say Israel killed 20,000 kids in Gaza. That is a fact, right? And they'll say, yeah, that they don't deny that it's a fact. They go blood libel. Wait, what are you talking about? [00:04:13] No. Like 200 years ago, people said that Jews killed kids, Christian kids when they didn't and drank their blood. Good news. I didn't say any of that. I said Israel, not Jews, killed 20,000 kids today. So what are you going to blood libel for? Because everything is a trope planted around Israel to protect it. [00:04:31] So Anna is right. If England does something terrible or the UK or Norway. Yeah, yeah. Portugal, whatever. We're allowed to criticize any government. The Greeks. Oh yeah. Turks. No problem everyone. But if you criticize Israel. Trope trope, chirp chirp chirp trope, you're an anti-Semite. Why? Why do they want to call you an anti-Semite? [00:04:48] Because don't criticize Israel. Right. But why? So. But like. Yeah, okay. You get called a name, maybe you get past it. No. The second part of that is once you're called an anti-Semite, then the everyone has to never hire you, Never put you on air. [00:05:03] It is the ultimate cancel culture weapon. It is the nuke of the cancel culture. Like if you're anti-Muslim, no problem. You'll get back on TV. It doesn't affect your career 1%, right? If you're anti-black, that's going to affect your career a lot, right? [00:05:19] But if you're considered anti-Semitic, your career in media and politics is done. So what she's saying is eliminate him. And in fact, later in the interview, she literally says I shouldn't be allowed to talk and that any criticism of Israel is a criticism of her kids. So she spends much of the interview talking about how she's the victim. [00:05:39] And I'm not even exaggerating. Think about this. Just put it in context. This is Stephen Miller's wife. Stephen Miller, one of, like, the most openly hateful, bigoted guys on the planet. He doesn't hide it. [00:05:55] And she's talking about how she and her family are victims because Jake is being critical of Israel. I kid you not. Take a look. - We want Israel to be a safe. - Haven for. Jews. 1967 borders. But you guys say no more Palestinian land. [00:06:12] Take the West Bank. Take southern Lebanon. Your greed knows no bounds. And by the way, you and your husband are supposed to be working for America, not Israel. No, Pierce, quite frankly, I'm really sick and tired of this racist, bigoted rhetoric that comes from people like you. Against my husband, against my family and my children. [00:06:30] I am raising Jewish children in this country in which. You. Inserted a line that says, is that not coded language? For therefore we are Jewish. Come on, Pierce, where are you? What? Where are you standing? God, you're so crazy. If I can, if I can speak. [00:06:46] If I can speak. Listen. Fire them, cancel them. Cancel America. Oh my God, Israel's feelings have been hurt. Why don't you work for this? Can we try and get this country instead of Israel? - Can we try? - Do you agree? When your guest says that the Millers always lie? Because that's what your guest on your show just said [00:07:02] is that the Millers always lie. Are you going to be okay? Are you going to be okay? I mean, can you handle being in the media? It doesn't seem like she can. She's got a weak sauce. Pathetic podcast. I tried listening to it because I have an open mind. [00:07:17] I'll listen to anything. Super lame. Doesn't know what she's doing. And then she agrees to go on Piers Morgan's show. Have you ever watched Piers Morgan show? Did you think it was going to just be like. Like, were you going to have your head caressed? Like, what is this? [00:07:32] Yeah. She said that the Millers lie. I'm raising Jewish children in America. Okay. It's coded language. Like. Well, that was insane. So there's so many things here. First, on the kids part, she's like, I'm threatening to denaturalize [00:07:49] and deport you. Well, that's going to affect my kids a lot, right? So. But my kids are not a concern because you're not you're not pro-Israel. So your kids are irrelevant. They're just Americans. They're very lower than us. Okay. And but I say her and her husband lies. [00:08:05] She's like, it's coded language for anti-Semitism, so it's hurting my kids. Wait a minute. That's not even a trope. You forgot that one. Okay, there's like a million tropes, but that's not one of them. That all Jews lie. I've never even heard that. [00:08:22] - You just made that one up. - And so. So wait wait wait wait. But think about it, guys. Think about how much this is identity politics and die in a sense. Oh, my. This is die on steroids. What are you talking about? Because she's saying you cannot ever accuse anyone who happens [00:08:39] to be Jewish of lying in any debate, even if they are lying, because it harms all Jewish people and their children. Yeah. Wrong again. Bob. What are you then? You can't ever participate in a debate. Then don't come. And then you see her look to mommy. She's like, piers, why aren't you canceling him? [00:08:57] He already said something against me. Steven told me we could cancel anyone we want, we can kick him out of the country. Why don't you kick him out of out of your show, There's no crying in mommy in a debate. Okay. You either show up with facts or you try your weaksauce identity politics. [00:09:14] And I'm the victim, horsecrap. And you get your ass handed to you. So I can't help myself. I had to show you because it went on and on. So I have to show you a little more of her whining. It was amazing. Take a look. Just as you said is a socialist. [00:09:30] He is someone who is going to drive New York to the bottom. I'm excited for him to win, because he'll prove to every other single large city in our country that what you will see is failure. What you will see is high crime. What you will see is murders for the reasons in which he is wrong and which he will drive New York into. [00:09:46] Failure is again, the same reason why people on your show, instead of arguing the merits, as you say, of his opinions, they're going to sit here and use attacks on my husband and myself instead of debating us on our values and our opinions. It is gross. It is racist and it is bigoted. [00:10:05] And I will not join your show again if you suck. That's what I'm debating. You are a guest on my show and I appreciate you coming on the show. And I like you coming on the show. I'm saying, I'm saying I think you're able to. Participate in these anti-Semitic attacks that are so permeating on CNN and MSNBC. This is so ridiculous. [00:10:20] I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I have to jump in here. - Somebody criticizing you personally. - Is not an anti-Semitic attack. If somebody says that you are lying. That is not an attack on Jews. That is an attack on you. And just stop hiding behind identity. This is all the snowflake behavior that the right is supposedly [00:10:36] criticizing the left for. That was Omar Bader at the end, and he's amazing. And he totally hit the nail on the head. Jake. I mean, this is the exact type of behavior the right has criticized the left for in a lot of cases, accurately, to be honest with you, [00:10:51] hiding behind identity in order to avoid any personal responsibility or accountability when you do something wrong. I find that pretty gross as well. Weaponizing identity to silence people. I find that gross. Now you literally have. This is the thing that blows my mind. It's Stephen Miller's wife. [00:11:09] Stephen Miller's wife saying all this stuff. Yeah. So, look, more, first, if you didn't hear what I said to her a couple of times because there was a lot of crosstalk. The last comment I said is anti-Semitism, my ass. Okay. Because everything is anti-Semitism. [00:11:26] You ask her about, any topic, it doesn't matter. How's your day? You're an anti-Semite. Okay. You hate my children. All right. Whatever, dude. All right. Number two is, when I said, she's like, oh, no, they're just attacking us because they're racist and bigoted. [00:11:42] And you're right. I mean, the right wing hates that more than the left wing does, supposedly. Yeah. And so now she's hiding behind her identity. In fact, later in the show, we talked about Karine Jean-Pierre, and I said the same thing on Piers Morgan that I said the day before on The Young Turks, [00:11:57] where I said, look, man, I don't care that Karine Jean-Pierre is a black queer woman as she says like a million times. Yes, but what did you do? I don't care about your identity. Tell me what your positions are, what your policies are, what your ideas are. So we ask the same thing of Katie Miller that we ask of Karine Jean-Pierre. [00:12:16] But what does she do? She does the same thing Karine. Jean-Pierre does. She hides behind her identity. You're not allowed to criticize me. You're not allowed to debate me. You're not allowed to say I lie. You're not allowed to do anything because I'm Jewish. And that means you're an anti-Semite for opposing me. [00:12:31] But wait a minute. I agree with other Jews. Dave Smith, Glenn Greenwald, Jeffrey Sachs I could list a thousand Jews that I like. In fact, I know hundreds of Jews. I don't know one that likes Stephen Miller or agrees with him. Right. So if the standard. - For his wife. - Yeah. No, no, I'm sure there are. I just don't know any. [00:12:47] Out of the hundreds of Jews that I know, family and friends, they all despise Stephen Miller. So the idea that Stephen Miller and Katie Miller speak for all Jews might be the single most incorrect thing ever stated on Piers Morgan's show, which is a hell of a thing, right? Coded language. [00:13:02] Coded coded language for what? Most Jews can't stand you. Okay, I will say this about Jake. Okay. He might be a lot of things, but he's not the kind of guy who uses coded language. Yeah, okay. He comes in like a ton of bricks. Like he just does. That's who Jake is. [00:13:19] He's going to say what he means. He's not going to try to cower with coded language. So as she was pretending I was attacking her race, would I? You might not have heard his. I said, no, your values suck. Yeah. No, that was the best line. That was my favorite line. It was so funny. So it's like I don't hide a thing, right? I'm gonna come for you 100mph. [00:13:37] Anyway, the other thing about just super quick, we talked about on the show before, Mamdani has more. According to the polling, every poll, more Jewish support than any other candidate in New York and among Jews under the age of 45. He's at 67% approval. [00:13:54] You said 67% coded language. - Coded language. - Is anti-Semitic. But wait, no Jewish Americans are on Mamdani's side. Yeah. No. 67% of Jews are anti-Semitic if they don't agree with the Millers. [00:14:10] - I guess so, I guess so. - Now, look. After all of her pathetic tactics failed, she decided to turn to threats. And this was the moment that Jake actually missed in real time. Realized what was said today. And so let's watch. And then you'll finally have your opportunity to respond to it. [00:14:28] - Israel does. - Not. Get a pass on. Committing another genocide because Jewish people suffered the Holocaust. What happened in the Holocaust? - You don't get a. - Pass. - For calling them horrible. - Hold on, hold on, hold on. So what your citizenship application was, all the pogroms were disgusting. [00:14:47] That doesn't mean that Israel, pretending to represent Jews across the world, gets to commit another genocide upon a totally innocent people and collective punishment and murdering children over and over again and go, I get to do it. I get to do it. Genocide. [00:15:03] Decide before you go off. Jake. I just have to make one comment because, it appears that Piers Morgan is very offended that you referred to the IDF as the SS. Yeah. Why are you offended, piers? [00:15:18] I mean, how how is the IDF acting any differently? I want an answer to that. So how many kids do they need to slaughter happily for you to see them for what they really are? Yeah. I think they're the exact same. Okay. [00:15:35] Vicious, dehumanizing monsters. And I would never apologize for saying that. I think calling them SS is totally right. Go ahead. Jake. I don't care, I don't care. Oh, well, it's so insulting to Jewish people, is it? How about what the IDF is currently doing right now? [00:15:52] Are we just going to provide cover for that because they happen to be, you know, part of Israel, and we always provide cover for Israel, regardless of how many innocent people they slaughter. No, I'm not falling for that, I don't care. The Holocaust doesn't give you license to carry out the exact same atrocities [00:16:10] and not get criticized for it. - Go ahead. - Yeah. So what? You might not have heard because they kept interrupting me, is I was saying that the Holocaust and all the pogroms that Jews have gone through in history are disgusting. And it's terrible what happened to Jewish Americans. Then I went on to explain the reason that I mentioned the SS line [00:16:30] is because, look, you can compare it to any soldiers of any genocide. And I mentioned the Ottomans doing it to the Armenians. So that is of course, my ethnic group, Turks. And you could say they were Turkish soldiers or Cambodian soldiers that worked with Pol Pot or Serbs in Srebrenica, etc.. [00:16:46] Are you saying that we're allowed to criticize all of those other races, religions, countries for doing a genocide? But the one country we're not allowed to criticize for doing a genocide is Israel. Well, then you're proving my point, which is no, Israel is allowed to do one. [00:17:03] They get a pass. They get a free pass on genocide. No they don't. No they don't. Can I just say something? 1.5 million Armenians were slaughtered by the Turks in 1915. And by the way, there were a ton of massacres prior to that as well. [00:17:19] I would never in a million years run around weaponizing my identity to prevent anyone from criticizing me or Armenians. If Armenians engage in bad behavior, it is. It's not the 1940s anymore. You don't get to use that victim card to provide cover for the atrocities [00:17:36] that are being carried out by Israel. I'm so disgusted. I find that disgusting. Right. Using and weaponizing the tragedy of the Holocaust. In order to provide cover for very similar atrocities that are being carried out against the Palestinian people. [00:17:51] That victim card thing doesn't work anymore. - It's over. - Yeah. And so, look, last couple of things here on, the kids as an example. So I also explained on the show 60% of the kids were killed, according to a study by the BBC in Gaza, [00:18:09] with either head or chest shots from snipers from hundreds of yards away. 60% in the study that they did. So that is the IDF ss looking going oh, there's oh, by the way, they were all under 12. Oh, there's a five year old who's going [00:18:25] to take the shot to murder him. Are you going to get him through the brain or the heart? There's a three year old. There's an 11 year old. You're telling me that's not the SS? They have an 83% civilian kill ratio, the worst of any terrorist group in the world. That's the IDF. Worse than Hamas, worse than al Qaeda. [00:18:41] I'm not talking that they're worse overall. I'm just saying in terms of purposely, intentionally killing civilians, there's civilian kill ratio is worse than any terror group and worse than Assad the butcher in Syria. Okay, so if that's not a genocide and that's not somebody you your country, [00:19:00] you're allowed to criticize, I don't know what is. So that really gets to the heart of not Israel, not even the New York race. It gets to the heart of America. And who are we? Because we started talking about the New York race and she turned it into, you're not allowed to criticize Israel. Otherwise I'm going to kick you out of America. [00:19:17] How about you get out of America? How about you go live in Israel? How about this is America, where we have a diverse population of people who have all types of different faiths, all types of different nationalities and backgrounds, and they're here because they want to be Americans. [00:19:33] They're here because they love America. First and foremost. All these people running around trying to silence Americans or leech off of our resources for a foreign country, get the F out of our country. And I mean that with my whole chest. [00:19:49] I loathe these people because I see them as traitors to this country. I see them as individuals who use and abuse this country on behalf of a foreign country. Get out. You love Israel. Go live in Israel. Why are you. Why aren't you living there? - I don't get it, Jake. - I know why. [00:20:05] I want to look. Eventually, one day when I retire, I want to, like, lay on a beach in Italy. But that's not because I dislike America. I freaking love this country. Okay, but I would. I would never imagine lobbying hard to like, send over our resources [00:20:23] and have our soldiers fight on behalf of Italy or Armenia or any other country. These people, they they feel so entitled to it. And that's what drives me crazy. And then you have an entire political and media class that reinforces that narrative. No, we don't know Israel. Anything, anything. [00:20:40] Not a single dollar. Unfortunately, we have a bunch of politicians who are bribed and blackmailed into giving Israel anything and everything they want. But I don't cosign on to that. I'm an American. - I love this country. - Yeah. So what I would say is that they're traitors to the idea of America. [00:20:57] - No, they're traitors to America. - Okay, so why. Doesn't love America? Sorry, Jake. Go ahead. So why are they. You said. Why are they here? Well, first of all, they were born here, to be fair, right? So I don't mind them being here, but I mind them serving Israel instead of us, especially when they're in the government. And she's not in the government, by the way. [00:21:12] She's just a princess, Princess snowflake. She's married to the nobles. So she's married to Stephen Miller. So she says, oh, yes. As the wife of one of the nobles, one of the lords in the Trump administration, I get to unilaterally cancel your citizenship. That's not how this country works. [00:21:29] So maybe that's how Israel works, where you're like, oh, you're a muslim. That's it. You're canceled. Or maybe when we murder you, maybe we kick you out, but you have no rights at all. Yeah, yeah, that's Israel, that's not here. That's not America. And by the way, now the right wing is on our side. And now, young Jewish Americans all the way up to 45 years old [00:21:46] are overwhelmingly on our side. And soon almost all Jewish Americans will be on our side. The only people left will be these pro-Israel radicals. And we never bring up religion every single time it's pro-Israel radicals that bring up religion. Right. So maybe others say it, but we certainly have never said it. [00:22:03] We never say, oh, it's the Jews or anything along those lines. In fact, we do the exact opposite. We love our Jewish brothers and sisters. And we're not just saying that they're Americans. It means something to be an American. That means you're one of us. Okay, but what Katie Miller is doing is she's betraying that idea [00:22:21] that you're one of us. She's trying to bury Americans on behalf of Israel. Okay, that's what I have a problem with. When you're trying to destroy the lives of your fellow Americans because they hurt your feelings when they commented on a foreign country [00:22:37] that you have far more loyalty to. Yeah, I said it, I said it. So it is what it is. It is what it is. I'm not going to hold back, and I'm not going to pretend like I'm not seeing what I'm seeing. The fact that she threatened to revoke your citizenship because you're [00:22:52] critical of Israel is disgusting, and she's a traitor to the country. - That's all I have to say about that. - Yeah. Okay. Last thing for me, guys. What authority does she have to revoke anybody's citizenship? She's saying since I'm married to a noble, to an elite. And you are embarrassing me in this debate by being right. [00:23:11] And I have literally no facts to back me up. All I have is charges of racism and anti-Semitism. Right. But it doesn't matter. Since I am one of the elites, I get to cancel any American that criticizes me or Israel. I don't know anything more un-American than that, I just don't. [00:23:27] And so at this point, you know, they're getting a twofer. You know, the Millers and the other pro-Israel radicals, they're like, we get to enjoy beautiful America. We get to direct America's money to Israel. We get to do propaganda here against all Muslims, because Israel is [00:23:43] about to has continually attacked their Muslim neighbors and taking their land. And then we make America fight all those wars against those Muslims instead of Israel. So it's a giant win for them because they take everything they need from America, give it to their actual country that they're loyal to. [00:23:59] And by the way, in all of this, did you ever hear me say anything about Turkey? Never. Right. Because what do I care? I'm an American. The only thing you say about Turkey, and in that in the context of that interview, is you talked about the Armenian genocide. Yeah, that's a great point. I never say anything where you you oh, Turkey, you you're anti-turkish. [00:24:19] If you criticize the government of Turkey, like I would never say anything that absurd. In fact, as I pointed out, I criticized the government of Turkey. You know why? I'm an American, but she does not feel that loyalty. Yeah, because at a moment's notice, she's like Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel and die. [00:24:35] Culture wars, identity politics, cancel culture. I'm going to do it all on behalf of Israel. And I'm going to trash the First Amendment, freedom of speech and the US Constitution and try to literally attack Americans and kick them out of the country on behalf of a foreign government. [00:24:50] Not only is that the most un-American thing you could do, it's also the very last thing you do if you want to be America first. That is not America first. That's America last. Every time you ring the bell below, an angel gets his wings. Totally not true. But it does keep you updated on our live shows.