New York attorney general who successfully sued Trump in civil case for business fraud, has now been indicted by a Virginia grand jury on at least one count of bank fraud. DOJ is accusing her of committing mortgage fraud [00:00:15] when she purchased a property in Virginia. That was in 2023. Federal officials have been investigating whether James lied on loan documents for a house she purchased in Norfolk 2023. In that paperwork, she said the home would be her primary residence, even as she [00:00:31] served as attorney general in New York. Washington Post, with the reporting, James attorney, has described those errors as honest mistakes and said James has presented evidence showing that she purchased the home for a niece and had not intended to improperly secure a better mortgage rate [00:00:48] by declaring it her primary residence. Now then there's Lindsey Halligan. She's a loyalist prosecutor Trump recently installed in the Eastern District of Virginia. She presented the case against James to a grand jury in Alexandria. Prosecutors allegedly called James's niece to appear before the grand jury, [00:01:06] but sources say the niece gave testimony that would bolster James's case that she did not commit fraud. Case is also under seal. It's impossible to know what other alleged evidence Halligan has against Letitia James, but reporting indicates even people within Halligan's office [00:01:24] were skeptical of the case three days ago. MSNBC reported a top prosecutor in Halligan's office, Elizabeth USI, was resisting pressure to ask a grand jury to charge James USI, who oversees major criminal prosecutions in the Norfolk office [00:01:41] of the Eastern District of Virginia, has confided to coworkers that she sees no probable cause to believe James engaged in mortgage fraud, that, according to the two sources, he told this to MSNBC. But Donald Trump has been pressuring prosecutors nonstop [00:01:57] to go after her posting on social media without citing any evidence that she's, quote, guilty as hell and telling reporters at the white House, looks to me like she's really guilty of something, but I really don't know. [00:02:13] Come back to Donald Trump's obvious control of the Justice Department. And just a minute. But first jenk. Talk to us about your. I don't even know if you are surprised. Just your initial impressions. Yeah. So I'm definitely not surprised, partly because Donald Trump [00:02:30] has been announcing over and over again, I really want prosecutors to take out my political opponents. I don't like James Comey, I don't Brennan, Chris Wray, Letitia James. And we're going to tell you in a little bit on the show about how he meant to send a private message to Pam Bondi, [00:02:48] and accidentally made it public about why you're taking too long to prosecute my political opponents. But based on what? They have to break the law. Right. So basically, he's telling them, just make it up, right? So in this case, like like, for example, Brennan was part [00:03:05] of the national security team of Obama. And can I believe that Brennan has done some things that, you know, should be investigated? I couldn't believe it. Like, Brennan's a bad guy. He was in favor of warrantless wiretapping. ET cetera. [00:03:21] But you're not supposed to say, hey, I don't like a guy. Now dig into his life and see if you could find something illegal. You're. You're supposed to find something illegal and figure out who did it. So otherwise, we're living in a totalitarian state like John Bolton is another one of Trump's enemies. [00:03:37] I hate John Bolton. He's a neocon. He started the Iraq war. He's never been right about foreign policy. He basically works for Israel. I loathe him. Okay, but I don't want him arrested. He's another American and we're having a debate and I don't agree with him. And I'll, you know, use my right to speech, etc.. [00:03:54] So now when you get to Letitia James, so which camp, which bucket does she belong in? Trump has said repeatedly, I want her arrested. I want her prosecuted. I want her prosecuted. Puts pressure on the prosecutors, the prosecutors who are very, very conservative, very right wing, look at it and go, there just isn't enough [00:04:13] evidence to prosecute her for any crime. Like we looked into this, this, this, this. How about mortgage fraud? Mortgage fraud? We got this, Pulte guy who's, like, a huge Trump loyalist in some housing department, and he's claiming that everybody, every Democrat, every political opponent [00:04:29] of Trump is doing mortgage fraud. So they pull this, for Letitia James to try to get her on this, and the prosecutors look at it and go, no, no, this is nonsense. This is she's not she didn't do it right. And I'm going to tell you why she didn't do it in a second. And Trump then says, okay, then fire the prosecutor. [00:04:46] I don't care if she did it or not. Just charge her right. And you're going to see that in his instructions to Pam Bondi in a little bit on the show. Right. So okay, so why am I sure Letitia James didn't do it in one form? She did check off the box saying that it's her primary residence and it is [00:05:04] not her primary residence, and you can't have two different primary residences. And so that's a violation. If you arrested people on that violation, you probably arrest hundreds of thousands of people. Maybe you get into the millions, I don't know, but okay, it's a violation. [00:05:21] No problem. But wait, was it an accident that she checked that box off, or did she mean to check that box off? And she did it with intent. Intent? It was what would make it a crime. Right. And now, if you told me a politician accidentally checked off the wrong box, [00:05:37] I'm going to give you an epic eye roll. And so I'd be like, oh, come on. Right. So why am I so convinced it was an accident this time? Because it turns out there are many other forms where she did not check off primary residence. She checked off the opposite. But hold. [00:05:52] It's more clear than that. On one of the other forms she literally wrote. Quote. This property will not be my primary residence and she capitalized. Will not. I've never seen anyone be clearer on a form [00:06:09] that it is not their primary residence. So she had intent to deceive. She would have checked off primary residence on all the forms if she did not have intent. She made a mistake in one of them. She. You could tell by how she responded in other forms and in other forms. [00:06:25] She made it crystal clear that it's not her primary residence. Your risks are based on that. You're basically saying, I don't care if she did it or not. I don't like her. She's a political opponent, and now we're in an authoritarian government, and I'm [00:06:40] just arresting anyone I don't like who has opposed me politically in the past. And that is kind of where we are right now. I would have preferred you to say that in The Voice. I want you to sound like him when you say that last part, because it seems like it's true. It's true. [00:06:55] Every time you ring the bell below, an angel gets his wings. Totally not true. But it does keep you updated on our live shows.