They didn't release parts of the transcript, they released the whole transcript. And, you know, so you can go through the whole thing. And of course, this confirms what we all knew. If the Democrats if President Trump had done something wrong, you don't think the Democrats would have released that? I mean, it was their Justice Department who who handled all this? [00:00:17] You don't think the Garland Justice Department and the FBI would have would have released information? We knew President Trump didn't didn't do anything wrong here. He said that repeatedly. This transcript is the whole transcript. And it confirms that. Over the weekend, Republican Congressman Jim Jordan proclaimed that convicted [00:00:35] sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell is a reliable source, even though she was charged with perjury in her prosecution. Who has? Oh, would you look at that? Cleared President Donald Trump's name. You know, the same president that she's trying to get a pardon from. [00:00:52] You know, the same president who's in power right now while she's in prison and can make decisions about which prison or facility she's being detained at. But what Jordan failed to mention was the fact that Maxwell is a huge liar. [00:01:07] And what he also failed to mention is that pedophilia isn't a Partizan issue. It affects both parties. Members of both parties. So the idea that like, oh, if Democrats had the deets, they would totally release it. Have you considered that maybe Democrats could be implicated in, these disgusting [00:01:27] acts that Jeffrey Epstein was involved in? Of course you know that. Of course you know that. Anyway, Go ahead. Jake. - You were going to say something. - Yeah. So I was amused by him saying, like, you think Merrick Garland wouldn't have gone after him? Merrick. The weakest man in America. [00:01:44] Garland. Actually, no, I don't think Merrick Garland has any interest in going after anyone. Yeah, that's among the reasons why he waited two and a half years before he. Before he even appointed a special prosecutor because he's so feckless and useless. But anyway, but of course, the bigger point is, well, [00:02:01] isn't it curious that both Democratic and Republican presidents aren't, you know. Wanting to release the files. Or prosecute a single person who did this, etc.? I don't think it's just because there's high profile Democrats and Republicans who are implicated. [00:02:16] I think that it might be an intelligence agency. And Jim Jordan, of course, does not mention that. But on the other hand, protecting child sex predators is on brand for Jim Jordan. Good point. So like when he was a wrestling coach, there was a huge scandal where a lot [00:02:31] of the wrestlers were being molested by someone else in the college organization, and they went to Jim Jordan and said, can you protect us? And he said, no. And he let them get molested and he protected the molester. So that's who Jim Jordan is. So he's just doing it again. And if you need someone to protect, someone who's molesting, younger, kids, [00:02:52] Jim Jordan's the perfect guy. Well, he has a track record of it. In that case, they were college wrestlers. They weren't kids. But. And it's alleged because it hasn't been proven in court. Nonetheless, those wrestlers are on the record and their testimony is damning. [00:03:08] Yeah. And I'll say one last thing. You said same president who had this, that and the other thing, like, as if she has no incentive at all. So, yeah, he's the same president who, right after she said he didn't do it, moved her to a country club prison. Yeah. So, gee, I wonder why she wanted to do it. [00:03:23] But to your first point, Anna, it's hilarious to be like, no, Ghislaine Maxwell says it, so it must be true. It's almost. It would be the equivalent, since she's one of the worst child sex traffickers in American history. The equivalent of going, oh no, no. We talked to Jeffrey Dahmer and he says that Trump didn't do anything wrong. [00:03:38] He's such a reliable witness. So last month, Deputy Attorney Todd Blanche, who used to be Trump's personal attorney, sat down for an interview with Maxwell. This was all an effort to clear Trump's name. Let's not mistake it for anything other than that. [00:03:53] On Friday, the recordings and transcripts of that interview were released. So here's what Maxwell had to say about Trump. Did you ever observe President Trump receive a massage? - Never. - Whatever the nature of the president's. [00:04:12] Friendship, if you will, or however you want to define that with Epstein, I was never witnessed. I think they were friendly, like people are in social settings, I don't. I don't think they were close friends or I certainly never witnessed the president in any of. [00:04:29] I don't recall ever seeing him in his house, for instance. I actually never saw the president in any type of massage setting. I never witnessed the president in any inappropriate setting in any way. The president was never inappropriate with anybody, as in the times that I was with him. [00:04:47] - He was a gentleman in all respects. - And did you ever hear Mr. Epstein or anybody say that President Trump had done anything inappropriate with masseuses or with anybody in your world? Absolutely never in any context. [00:05:05] In a sworn deposition on camera, which you can all find online if you look for it. Jeffrey Epstein referred to Donald Trump as a best friend. We've also all seen the videos of Epstein and Trump partying together, you know, doing the lower lip bite while they awkwardly dance [00:05:23] while looking at young women. I don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth because she's seeking a pardon from Donald Trump, the very person that she just called a gentleman. And during the interview, Maxwell also insisted that another former president, [00:05:38] Bill Clinton, never, never even went to Epstein's island. Totally innocent. You're not aware of President Clinton ever going to the island? He never, absolutely never went. And I can be sure of that, because there's no way he could have gone. I don't believe there's any way that he would have gone to the island had [00:05:55] I not been there, because I don't believe he had an independent a friendship, if you will, with Epstein. Okay, that's also not true, unsurprisingly. I mean, she's a liar. She's known to lie. According to Virginia Giuffre, one of Epstein's and Maxwell's victims. [00:06:14] You know, she says that this is a lie. She. I mean, based on what she has said in the past, unfortunately, she committed suicide. And so, she is unable to engage in any public statements now. But she was an outspoken fighter for justice who died by suicide earlier this year. [00:06:31] And in a never published memoir, she wrote that Clinton had visited the island on at least one occasion. And speaking of Giuffre, she came up in another portion of the interview. Let's just quickly go to that and then we'll go to you. Jake. Do you have a recollection of you ever recruiting a masseuse from, [00:06:49] Mar a Lago spa to give to go give a private massage to Mr. Epstein? I've never recruited a masseuse from Mar a Lago for that. As far as I remember. I can't ever recollect doing that. Okay, that is just a flat out lie. It's a flat out lie. [00:07:04] Based on what Trump has said on the record. Okay. What? Based on what Trump has said on the record. I mean, this woman is what? What a clown anyway. Jim Jordan is a complete and utter clown, taking what this woman is saying at face value. In 2000, court records show Ghislaine Maxwell struck up a conversation [00:07:22] with Virginia Giuffre outside a locker room at Mar a Lago. She was a spa attendant at the club, having gotten the job through her father, who worked there as a maintenance person. According to Giuffre, Maxwell offered her a job on the spot as a masseuse for [00:07:38] Epstein after seeing that she was reading a book about massage, telling her that she did not need to have any experience. She said that when she was brought to Epstein's Palm Beach home, she found him lying naked on a table, Maxwell said. [00:07:53] Maxwell, she claimed, instructed her on how to massage him. And on the record, we all heard Trump talk about how his relationship with Epstein soured after he stole one of my girls from Mar a Lago. - Remember we showed that video? - Yeah. He's so dumb. Why would you say that? [00:08:10] Because he's an idiot, that's why. So he's like, I was enjoying the masseuse at Mar a Lago, and then this guy takes him for his own sexual pleasure. I was outraged. That's why I didn't like Epstein. Why? Why would you admit that? Anyways, look. So first, why is she saying that she never took any masseuse from Mar a Lago when [00:08:28] Trump's already on the record about it? Because, remember, she's doing this for an audience of one. She's just trying to make Trump happy. So she's like, oh yeah. No, no, no. I would never take a masseuse from Mar a Lago because to him that's like the biggest crime. So that's why she's saying that even though it's patently false. [00:08:47] Now, she said no, I have never seen President Trump fraternize in an inappropriate way with Jeffrey Epstein. I mean, if Epstein did anything wrong at all, poor Trump never knew about it. About it. That's why it's curious that Trump said this. I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. [00:09:05] He's a lot of fun to be with. It's even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. Gross. But Trump, no, never in an inappropriate setting. Doesn't know anything about Epstein or what's going on there. [00:09:20] Okay, now to the comment that bothered me the most was he was such a gentleman. Why would we take a child's sex traffickers word for whether he was a gentleman or not? The guy who bragged about how he liked grabbing women by the pussy. [00:09:37] - That guy. - That guy's the gentleman. Okay. The one who's convicted of sexually assaulting in a civil setting, found guilty of sexually assaulting a woman in a dressing room. We can go on and on. But the idea that Donald Trump was such a gentleman [00:09:55] to all women he met is over the top. - Comical. - It really is okay. But Jake, I think this is the lie that Ghislaine Maxwell told Todd Blanche that got under my skin the most because she claimed that she never saw a single masseuse ever look unhappy [00:10:12] or not come back or whatever. Basically denying that these girls were being abused. Okay, we're being sexually abused. Like I never saw any of the masseuse look unhappy. Okay. That saga and Jenny's tweet. I want to bring it back up. [00:10:28] Just to give you a flavor of what we're dealing with here. Maxwell says I never saw a single masseuse ever look unhappy or not come back or whatever they were going to. They were specifically seeking out girls who had troubled families, [00:10:46] lived in disadvantaged neighborhoods, basically vulnerable girls. Okay. - They were. - Predators. Yeah, that's what predators do. They would seek them out and they would victimize them in the most horrific ways imaginable. This woman is scum. And the fact that she is enjoying herself in a, you know, Club Med [00:11:06] for like prisoners for inmates disgusts me beyond beyond words. And Trump was willing to do that for her as long as she played ball, called him a gentleman and cleared cleared his name. In regard to the Epstein files. Let's see the files if you. [00:11:22] Hey, you know what? If Trump's got nothing to worry about? Let's see the files, release the files, release them. But he won't. So, look, the Trump supporters are pretty good on this. They're pretty outraged. And some of them have gone back to supporting daddy. But a lot of them are like, no, not buying it. [00:11:40] This this stinks to high heaven, right? And obviously, people on the left and independents also agree. That's why you're seeing these huge poll numbers on this issue against Trump. But for those of you who are the dead enders who are still holding on to the idea that Donald Trump is innocent as the driven snow and and guys, [00:11:58] we don't even know if Trump did it right. We're talking about Trump is at least protecting the guilty 100%. Okay. We my guess is it's an intelligence organization from a different government. And both Republicans and Democrats serve that different government. Okay. But there's no question that Trump is protecting the guilty. [00:12:14] So but for those of you who say no, Trump is the good guy here. His character witness that you're pointing to and Jim Jordan is pointing to is like the Pablo Escobar of child sex traffickers. That is not a credible witness, to say the least. [00:12:29] One other lie that it's just so crazy. Put up a saugers other tweet. Todd Blanche. But from what you know, you do not believe a camera exists, or a video camera, or a camera that takes pictures inside any of his residences. [00:12:46] Ghislaine Maxwell says correct. Meanwhile, in Epstein's bedroom. You have a saagar enjeti sharing a photo of a hidden camera. Why were there hidden cameras in the rooms in Jeffrey Epstein's properties. If it wasn't a blackmail operation. [00:13:02] Seriously? Why? No. These questions never get answered. Never by Democrats, not by Republicans, not by anyone. Yeah, okay. Gee, I wonder if it's an intelligence organization. Gee, I wonder if it was for blackmail. [00:13:17] And then final thing, because we are honest. Okay. And I don't blindly support everyone and everything they say and do. People are complicated. On some issues, they're correct. As Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene is on the issue of Gaza and Israel. But on the issue of believing Ghislaine Maxwell, I disagree with her entirely [00:13:37] for all the reasons that we just outlined. Here's what she posted, though. Ghislaine Maxwell says President Trump has never was never inappropriate with anyone and was a perfect gentleman in all respects. I'll say it again the Democrats tried to put President Trump in jail for the rest of his life, destroy his businesses and take his wealth, [00:13:54] and multiple assassins tried to kill him. If there had ever been any evidence against Donald Trump in any of the Epstein case files, the Democrats would have used it against him long ago. President Trump has been vindicated once again. [00:14:10] Again. Unless what Jeffrey Epstein was involved in was an intelligence operation, a blackmail operation. And there's also a huge possibility that members of both parties have been implicated in this. So are you really going to want to dish the dirt on Trump if Democrats? [00:14:30] - Democrats might be outed, too? - No, they're not going to. Guys, if it's CIA or Mossad, there's no chance that a president from either party is ever going to tell you unless you, for the first time in your life, miraculously pick an honest person, [00:14:46] which hasn't happened in my lifetime. So they all work for whoever they work for. It's super obvious. It's a blackmail operation. There's only. That's the only reason why you have video cameras. Who do you think they're blackmailing? A plumber, a dentist? [00:15:04] No, they're blackmailing the super powerful men, including our leaders who went to Epstein's house and Island and Jet. And so they've got goods on them. That is why they can never reveal who actually did this. [00:15:20] I think that's the most common and obvious explanation. I think the biggest mistake anyone can make when it comes to this story, and honestly, a lot of stories, is to see it through a partizan lens. This is not a Partizan story, and once you take that Partizan lens out of it [00:15:35] entirely, things become a lot more clear. So it is what it is. Hopefully she doesn't get pardoned. That's like the least we can hope for at this point. That's how depressing the situation is. Yeah, a pardon with a first class ticket to Israel. [00:15:51] But they'll say it has nothing to do with Israel. What are you talking about? Outrageous. To suggest that. That does tend to be a safe haven for pedophiles. So that would be a logical place to go. Okay. Anyways, so I promise you guys one thing. We're way over time here, so I'll just tell it to you and then I'll explain [00:16:09] it on another on another post game show. So unfortunately I think we're going to talk a lot about it going forward. So guys, I'm, I've now become convinced, and I was not in this camp at all before, significant evidence has convinced me [00:16:25] that I, like things get overhyped all the time, right? Especially technical stuff. This is not overhyped. AI is going to lead to anywhere between significant and massive unemployment, [00:16:41] and no one is ready for it. Whenever you ask people and I've literally been moderated panels about AI as some of the top experts, and they all give you the same answer. Oh, eventually people will switch to new jobs. I'm like, what? Over the course of two years. 20 years? What are we talking about here? [00:16:59] So what's going to happen in the middle? What's going to happen when we hit 8% unemployment and then ten and then 12 at 12% unemployment? You're going to have a political cataclysm. Right. And when Trump is in charge, because it's almost now I don't think [00:17:17] this is four years from now. I think this is anywhere from six months to maximum 24 months from now. I always get the timing wrong, so maybe I'm wrong about that. Right. But but it's going to happen pretty soon. And when it does, Trump is going to be flummoxed. [00:17:33] He doesn't know what the. That's a super difficult question to answer. And you have to prepare years in advance for it. Trump never does. Any homework is a fool. No one's going to be prepared. And then people are going to be enraged at Trump. [00:17:49] Enraged. That is when we have to offer an alternative, an answer that makes sense. And if you tell people, don't worry, let's go back to the establishment. Oh my God, the Democrats will have given up the most historic opportunity [00:18:07] of our lifetimes. So that's what we have to prevent. We have to be ready to offer an answer for what to do when that massive unemployment hits. And that if rocks the economy, it creates a vicious effect. Things are going to get really bad and people don't see it [00:18:25] because of infinite greed. They're like, what, what, what? The AI companies are going to make so much money. Who gives a shit that the AI companies are going to make so much money? If you got that kind of unemployment, you're going to have a sea change in American politics. [00:18:42] If it goes in the wrong direction, we're screwed. If it goes in the right direction, it could save us. We all have to work really hard to make sure it goes in the right direction. Every time you ring the bell below, an angel gets its wings. Totally not true, but it does keep you updated on our live shows.