Aug 7, 2025
Cenk Admits He Was WRONG About Tariffs - Makes BOLD New Prediction
United States Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick claimed that President Trump's tariff war were yield over $50 billion in revenue for the United States.
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How much revenue
have you brought in so far?
Just from tower from tariffs, Secretary.
So last month it averaged
just over $30 billion.
And as of last night midnight
the tariffs went up.
I think we're going to be heading
towards $50 billion a month
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in tariff revenue that no one has talked
about except for the president.
So think about $50 billion a month.
And that's where we are now.
And then you're going
to get the semiconductors.
You're going to get pharmaceuticals.
You're going to get all sorts
of additional tariff money coming in.
And as the president says,
this could continue to head towards
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and ultimately reach $1 trillion.
Well, those are some big numbers
being thrown around there.
And we're certainly going
to return to that dollar figure.
But bear in mind that today,
Trump once again jacked up the tariff
rates on more than 90 countries.
And that produces an outcome
where the average U.S.
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Tariff rate is now at its highest point
in nearly a century.
So those numbers are high right there.
You saw Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick
talking about how he expects
that soon tariffs will bring
in $50 billion in monthly revenue
even before the semiconductor stuff.
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And that's a really high number.
And also you don't generally see
this on the news very often.
Very rarely do politicians come out
and brag about how much
they're going to tax their voters.
It's a bold strategy,
but he's going with it.
We'll return to his claim
about the dollar figure there.
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But first, here is a map of where tariffs
have been, jacked up even more.
And you can see in the orange
there's a new higher rate.
In the yellow there are upcoming
deadlines, like in Mexico,
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where the deadline was not going to be
delayed until it was delayed the day
after Trump said that China as well.
And in the blue, you have the deals
that Trump made the 90 deals in 90 days,
which worked out to something like five
or so deals across more than 100 days.
And so some of these,
increased tariffs are very significant.
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So Brazil got an extra 50%
because Donald Trump doesn't like that.
His buddy, Bolsonaro is being prosecuted.
And so he's using, American trade policy
as a tool to meddle in the judicial system
of a foreign country.
You have like, you have some rates
where it's not that much higher than
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what's considered the baseline of 10%.
So, for instance, in Japan
and South Korea, the EU, that's at 15%.
Places like Taiwan and Vietnam are at 20%.
But the important thing to know
is that there is nowhere
on the entirety of the Earth's surface
where there is not a tariff that is higher
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than it was before Donald Trump.
And so no matter where Americans
buy things from,
we will be paying more 10% in some places,
5,100% higher in other places.
And right now, on average, it's at 18.6%.
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That is the highest it's been since 1933.
Generally, it's somewhere around 2 to 3%.
And so Donald Trump has times
now find that on average.
And, you saw Howard Lutnick sit there
trying to pitch this as a good thing.
Money is going to be flowing
into the US government's coffers
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from all these tariffs.
And Donald Trump is trying
to make the same case.
He's very excited about this,
saying reciprocal tariffs
take effect at midnight tonight.
Of course they're not reciprocal tariffs.
They're just new tariffs he's putting on.
They're not in response to other tariffs.
That's not what that word means.
And he says they've been
taking advantage of us.
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And by that he means
that we have a negative trade balance
with many of these countries.
And he doesn't understand that we,
being a far wealthier country,
will naturally have a negative
trade balance with poorer countries.
He thinks this is a personal insult.
It's just a sign
of high American spending power.
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But anyway, he goes on to say
15 minutes later, it's midnight.
Billions of dollars in tariffs are now
flowing into the United States of America,
and the money is flowing.
They did collect last month
about $30 billion in tariffs.
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But importantly, the money isn't flowing
into the US. Those checks are written
by importers in the US,
they are going to have to pay the United.
The United States government
for what they import.
And, you know, generally they
might get some from the corporations
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in exchange for that.
But the corporations are almost
certainly going to jack up the prices
to make up for that.
And if they and if they do, then the
prices are the price increases are going
to be passed on to the American taxpayer.
And so in the end, what you effectively
have is they have this ever
increasing number 30 billion, 50 billion.
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But we're we're paying for that.
And it is not just a new tax
on the American taxpayer,
but it's a it's a regressive tax.
The more of your income that you spend
which poor people do richer people don't.
They save most of their money.
You're going to be paying
even more of this.
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And so at the same time, Jake,
that they cut the taxes on the wealthiest,
they're now bragging to their poor voters
about how much extra they're taxing them.
And I really feel like the Democrats
need to figure out a better way
to get that across, because this seems
like a massive missed opportunity.
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- But what do you make of it?
- Yeah.
So I'm going to shock the world And you
by saying that there's I'm going
to fess up to something that I
think I was a little bit wrong about.
Okay. So that's coming up in a little bit.
And then I'm going to nevertheless, make
a new prediction, be fun for everybody.
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First. All right.
So, look, these tariffs
are totally unsustainable.
So they they won't last.
There's no chance.
So I had said that in the past,
and I was right about that.
He put up 145% tariff on China
or threatened to.
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And then it lasted about 13 seconds
because that's mental.
And then he's like taking it back because
I'm getting very strong concessions.
China's like we didn't concede anything.
India says now they're going
to fight him to the end of time.
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Obviously Brazil is like 50%.
What the hell is this?
Okay. And why?
Because you have a bromance
with the corrupt politician
that robbed this country blind.
I don't care.
You know how much you love
corruption in America and Brazil.
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But a 50% tariff is, like totally random.
Kills all trade is insane, right?
But if you thought 145% was bad.
On August 12th,
he's promising a 245% tariff on China.
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What's the point? Right.
Like, once it passes 200, I'm not going
to buy as much Chinese stuff.
At 199 I'll do it.
But okay, I'm going
to give you guys a sense, right.
So let's say you had a 15% tariff
on something that costs $1,000.
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It would go up to 1000.
Like if all of it is passed on to you
and the great majority is right.
So it would go up to $1,150.
Well, now you're really uncomfortable
about buying that thing.
You had about $1,000 in your budget.
Now they're adding 150.
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That hurts. And you're paying it, right?
Okay.
Now, if you had a 245% tariff on that
same $1,000 product, it will be $2,450
and absolutely no one will buy it.
Of course not.
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It's insane.
Nobody's going to buy it, right?
And so whether it's like I in fact,
I might have done the math wrong on that,
it might be even more.
Anyway, whether it's 2450 or 3450,
it's totally irrelevant because once you
get past a certain barrier, right?
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I mean, what Max, 20%, etc.,
people stop buying it altogether, right?
So we have not fully hit the impact
of these tariffs at all because
the major tariffs just started today.
Right.
And what and but on top of that
the all the companies had been
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hoarding products imports
because they knew the tariffs were coming.
So they're also have
some stock ready to go.
And they're hoping that they won't run out
before Trump changes his mind again.
You know,
or before it's Taco Tuesday again.
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And and he's like, You know,
- I mean, I'm at 2.45%, right?
- So it's not totally unsustainable.
Been right about that from day one.
Absurd, right?
Oh, one more thing about how much
you guys have to pay on average.
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This is insane. And goes to John's point.
The average according to Yale budget
lab average American is going to have
to pay 2400 more dollars
because of these tariffs per year. $2,400.
That is an enormous tax
on the average American.
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And a regressive tax like the billionaire
doesn't care about the 2400 at all
when he's buying bubble gum
and t shirts and sneakers.
Right.
But 2400 to the average guy
is back breaking.
Remember 40% of the country
can't afford an extra $400 hit.
What are they going to do
with that extra $2,400 hit?
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Okay, so John, did you pay attention
to any of that or were you
just looking forward to the part
where I admit I got something wrong?
Oh, I thought that I thought
you were going to surprise me.
I didn't know you were going
to surprise me with something wrong.
I was already you already had my interest.
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But I forget the rest of that quote.
It's been a while since I watched it.
What? What were you wrong about?
Yeah.
So I thought the tariffs were largely
not exclusively because Trump's believed
in them for a long, long time.
And we showed on tape.
He's been talking about them for decades
because he's an idiot
and thinks that since there was no income
tax in the 1890s, because of the tariffs,
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you could just get rid of the income tax.
I know all that, but nevertheless, I
thought it was largely a trick to say, oh,
we're going to get a lot of new revenue.
So, so don't worry about that $4 trillion
in extra debt we're going to pile on
because of the giant tax cuts.
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And hence the once the tax
cuts had passed,
he didn't need that excuse anymore.
And he largely dropped the tariff talk.
But he didn't.
So okay, you got to own up
to things you got wrong.
We facts matter. Okay.
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So that was my educated guess.
And I told you guys.
Not a fact, but a guess,
but a prediction or.
Speculation or guess.
And that guess was wrong.
Okay, it turns out that Trump is really
mental about tariffs, like it or not.
It wasn't largely about the taxes.
It was largely about how mental he is.
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And and guys seriously, he thinks he can
get rid of the entire income tax, his
own income tax if he doesn't have tariffs.
It's not the 1890s. You're crazy dog.
Yeah okay. Now yeah.
- Go ahead.
- Oh, sorry.
No go ahead.
If you if you're admitting you're wrong,
I, I could listen all day I got.
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No no I got another prediction
coming up in a second.
Okay.
Well I will I will quickly say
I hadn't known that you linked those
two things as explicitly, I think.
I think it's fine for him
to be corrupt on the taxes thing
and dumb on the trade thing.
I think he can be. He contains multitudes.
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But even if, let's say it was designed
to do that, and all of the money that we
raised did go to paying off the extra debt
that he generated,
which it definitely wouldn't like
to give you an idea
of how much he just handed the wealthy.
So they're saying $50 billion a month.
I mean, that's a lot of money, right?
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A lot of money.
That's $600 billion a year.
It would still take like eight years
to pay off just the new debt
that he decided to give to the.
Well, that's a crazy amount
that they gave to them.
And we would still be paying for that
because we're the ones paying the tariffs.
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And so even if he used it for that
purpose, it would be utterly unacceptable.
Now we're of course expecting,
increasing prices.
As you said, there's been some strategies
that corporations have used
to try to ward it off.
And to some extent they haven't
even necessarily had to,
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because very often the tariffs were
announced and then they didn't happen
or they were going to happen.
And then it was delayed.
Like I defy anyone to say
what the actual tariff rate has been
in any given country two months ago,
but the price increases are happening.
And so, the latest monthly measure of
inflation showed that appliances, clothing
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and furnishings have become more expensive
in just the past couple of weeks.
Walmart, Procter and Gamble,
Nike and Hasbro have already said
that they plan to raise retail prices to
compensate for their rising tariff bill.
And as we know, when companies have
an excuse, a big worldwide thing,
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an excuse to raise prices, they never
raise prices as much as they need to.
They raise prices as much as they can.
And so I fully expect them to pass on
as much of this as they can and probably
a little bit more, especially if people
are forced over the next year or two
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to get used to ever increasing prices.
Well, then who's to say
they're not going to do an extra 2%?
An extra 4%.
It's going to be like the supply chains.
People are just used
to that sort of thing.
And all of this one would have
to imagine politically is going
to be terrible for the Republicans
or whoever is the incumbent party
when this is going on, Jake.
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Yeah. And at least my prediction.
So Trump's going to crash really hard.
I don't want to say soon,
but soon ish, right?
Two months. Four months?
Definitely by six months.
So now you have to understand the context.
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There's other shows
that go around saying, that's it.
Trump is done.
It's over. Okay.
He said some word wrong
or he did some buffoonish thing.
That's it. He's melting down now.
And we've told you a million times.
No, it's not true.
I mean, it's a wishful thinking.
It's fantasy land.
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It's just to appeal to people
who want him to melt down.
So why is this one,
from my point of view, my prediction?
Why is this one correct? Okay.
And why am I saying it now
when I haven't said it before?
So, number one, he's going to pull off
a little bit
of a miracle here of stagflation.
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So normally what happens is
when you have a low unemployment,
that means the economy is doing well.
Everybody's employed.
But then that'll heat up the economy,
and you might get high inflation.
Right.
If you can keep employment
and inflation down, that's beautiful.
And actually we did that for a couple
of decades here in America.
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Since you got like a lot of folks
don't have the perspective
of the rest of the world,
you don't know how miraculous that is.
That's amazing
that we could do that, right?
But usually those things. Yo, yo.
Okay.
And so but in this case, the reason
why you'll have higher unemployment
and higher inflation is
because the tariffs are pushing up prices.
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So that pushes up inflation.
But because, corporations now also
have less money, they hire less.
Right. So now you've got less hiring.
And sometimes firing to make up
for the fact that you can't sell,
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you can't move your products, right?
If you have 245% tariff on a product,
you obviously can't move it.
That hurts your bottom line.
You fire people
and you certainly don't hire anyone new.
So unemployment goes up.
But because of the tariffs,
inflation also goes up.
And that's stagflation.
And that's an epic economic disaster.
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So now that the tariffs have actually
started unless he tacos immediately.
Right.
This is going to start
to do some heavy damage.
That's why he's saying
two, four, six months, right?
Because they got to run
out of the stock that they have.
The prices have to go up.
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And then you're going
to see both of those effects.
And then the American people
are going to start to panic.
So but not just on that,
but also now mixing the fact that Donald
Trump has given up tweaking Israel at all
and is just fully in bitch mode now.
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And so Netanyahu says jump
he like he says, how high?
How many Palestinians
would you like me to murder?
Whatever.
So he's 100% Israel first now
and doing and over the top
in a way that is infuriating MAGA.
So he's eating into his base,
let alone the independents.
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Right.
And then on top of that,
you got the Epstein files.
And so all of these lead
to the to similar conclusions.
A he's not really for us.
I mean, to Jon's point.
So they put $1.1 trillion tax cut
into that bill for just people
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making over $500,000. 1.1 trillion.
So even if all these tariffs
quote unquote worked.
They you know, they raised 600 billion
while creating stagflation
and all the other disasters,
but they raised 600 billion.
That's coming from the average American
who's spending $2,400 extra every year.
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So you have to have two years
of you guys paying about $2,500 a year
in extra regressive taxes.
And all of that will then go
to the rich people making above $500,000.
Look, you could do marketing
and you could do propaganda
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for a little while, like, oh yeah, no,
Israel's not killing anyone in Gaza.
It's oh, it's all lies until we all see
the starving children, right?
And, you know, you could say, oh yeah,
the tariffs, they're not going to create
unemployment or inflation and they're
going to create Nirvana and Xanadu.
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Right.
And that'll go for a while
until reality hits.
And when they go to Walmart
and prices are much higher.
And then they
and their cousin lost his job.
It doesn't matter what you B.S. Them with.
It doesn't matter
what kind of marketing you do.
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And by the way,
if Trump's unsure about that,
he should go ask Democratic leadership.
Oh, we're going to pass this
and we're gonna pass that.
We're not gonna pass anything.
We're just messing around with them.
The donors told us not to pass anything.
And how'd that work out for the Democrats?
Reality has a way
of catching up with you after a while.
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Yeah.
And I'll just quickly say it's it's
pretty amazing that like that they're
choosing to do this when they just won
largely on these issues.
Like it's not even like we criticize Biden
for not doing enough coming
out of the pandemic to fix the problems,
to fix the inflation and all of that.
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But but we know that at least there were
there were exogenous shocks.
Trump is totally just choosing to do this.
He didn't have to.
Nobody was demanding this trade.
I mean, maybe some of his voters, I guess,
because they understood it
as little as him, but like, he just is
choosing to double down on high prices,
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inflation,
the same stuff his base was so angry about
and that enough independents were angry
about that they put him back in power.
It seems like the strangest
political own goal maybe of our lives.
- I don't know if I'll ever understand it.
- No, I understand it.
Just real quick on that, John.
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Look, it's the donors, period. Right.
So he says, oh, we're gonna release
the Epstein files, and then he gets
in there like, no, you're not.
He's like, oh no, I'm not. They suck.
They don't even exist. Right?
I'm gonna stand up for America first
and then gets in office.
The donors are like,
no, you're not Israel.
First.
He's like, yeah, sorry,
I don't know what I was thinking about.
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Israel first, America third or fourth.
Right.
And on and on and on. Right.
So the reason why he's doing
the exact opposite of what he promised is
the same reason why Democrats do the exact
opposite of what they promised the donors.
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They lie to you to get your vote.
And then once they're in office,
they're like, I'm not doing any of that.
Where's the corporate subsidies?
Let's increase those happens every time.
It's almost enough to make you think
we should try actual economic populism
rather than just right wing populism.
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