Jul 9, 2025
Ben Shapiro Gets OBLITERATED By His OWN AUDIENCE For Epstein Take
Conservative host Ben Shapiro claimed that he believes the FBI and DOJ's conclusions about Jeffery Epstein.
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Since I have no reason to believe
that Dan Bongino, for example,
or Kash Patel at the FBI,
or Donald Trump or JD Vance or any
of the other people in the administration
who have spoken about this before and now
are saying that Epstein killed himself
and that there is no Epstein list.
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I don't have any reason to believe
those people are lying to me, and they
have better information than I do.
All I can do, rationally speaking,
from my own perspective,
is say that I believe them.
Now, could evidence emerge
that completely contradicts all of that?
And it turns out
they were part of conspiracy.
Sure, that could happen.
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And when that happens,
I will change my opinion.
But for now, there's nothing to see here.
Ben Shapiro there, explaining
why he believes the Trump administration
is telling the truth about Jeffrey Epstein
and his his final moments, if you will.
Are you surprised to hear this tape
from Ben Shapiro?
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No, I'm not,
but I think he's telling on himself,
or at least on his beloved Israel.
Because as Tucker Carlson
is going to talk about in a second, we'll
have that tape for you about Mark Levin.
Same thing for Shapiro here.
Very curious attitude, right.
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So, you know, no big deal.
It's all conspiratorial.
It's I mean, look, of course, if you have
hundreds of underage girls who are raped,
there was no one who raped them.
Yeah, that makes sense.
There were no clients at all,
and no one should be prosecuted.
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Why are you weirdly nervous about this?
And why are you covering this up?
And then it makes me go.
Oh. Well, there is one theory out there
about who Epstein was working with,
and that's Mossad.
And it's the two theories are Trump
and Clinton are on the list.
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So that's why the Republicans
and Democrats will never release it.
The second theory is
it was an intelligence agency.
That's why they had enough juice
to be able to kill someone
inside an American prison and have
both parties cover it up for them.
Right.
And of course, they had tons of tapes.
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They say they have tons of tapes of the
most powerful and the richest people in
the world having sex with underage girls.
Who would want that kind of information?
Oh, an intelligence agency, obviously.
Right.
And so it's either the CIA
somehow hadn't thought about MI6
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or, of course, Mossad from Israel.
And so when I see Ben's reaction to it,
it's no big deal.
It's no big deal at all.
You guys are being conspiratorial.
I believe Pam Bondi.
And I don't think there were any clients.
I mean, like, the girls probably raped
themselves and we got to like Ghislaine
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Maxwell out of prison, apparently,
because there's no evidence.
And Epstein killed himself for no reason
if he killed himself
because there was no evidence.
Look away, look away.
Okay. I'm not saying it.
Ben Shapiro, through his actions
and his panic, is saying it was Mossad.
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Yeah.
And he wants Tucker Carlson
and others to shut up, apparently.
He slammed Carlson for proposing
that Epstein was a domestic
or foreign intelligence asset.
Watch All of this is part and parcel
of a broader theory that's being spun out
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by people like Tucker,
that the real story here,
the real story is that Jeffrey Epstein
was either a domestic intelligence agent
or a domestic intelligence asset
working for the CIA or with the CIA
or a foreign intelligence asset.
On X, obviously,
because this is how X is constructed.
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He must be Mossad, right?
This was this was the going theory
in the online space.
And if the evidence is not released
to justify that theory, or if the DOJ
and FBI say that theory isn't true, that
is not proof that the theory isn't true.
It's not even evidence
the theory isn't true.
It actually is evidence
the theory is true.
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And this is the problem
with conspiracy theories generally.
The great wonder of a conspiracy theory
is that it is totally unfalsifiable.
So if the DOJ and FBI say
there's no evidence for the proposition
that you are putting forth,
this just means they're in on it.
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So Shapiro also went after Carlson
for being disloyal to one Donald Trump.
And then he also hit Pam Bondi,
head of the Justice Department, for just
fueling these Epstein conspiracy theories.
Once you reach the level where you have no
evidence for your suppositions, but your
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suppositions are more important than any
of the evidence or even the credibility
of the people you're attacking.
And let's be clear, when people like
Tucker are attacking the DOJ and the FBI
here, they are attacking President
Trump's DOJ and President Trump's FBI.
They are not just attacking Pam Bondi,
who again, I think acted really
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irresponsibly by feeding this monster
for a while without the evidence
to actually support it.
But the attacks are not just
on Pam Bondi for being inconsistent.
The attacks are on
the entire Trump administration,
because if you actually believe
the proposition
that the Trump administration knows better
and is lying to you in order to cover
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for a child trafficking sex monster,
if that is your supposition,
then just say it.
Really just say it, because that's
what you would have to suppose.
There is no third choice.
Even if you believe that the Trump
administration is doing this to cover
for a domestic intelligence agency
or a foreign intelligence agency,
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that would still be evil.
Let's take a look at some
of the comments on Shapiro's video.
A lot of people weighing in.
Okay, before you do that, Sharon and I am
curious about that because it's his own
audience, and so that'll be fun to watch.
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I just wanted to address
a couple of things he said.
Number one, he's framing it
as you're being disloyal to Donald Trump.
And they do this.
The neo cons do this every time.
When if Donald Trump supports
Netanyahu on something or he bombs Iran,
they're like, oh, that's it.
Donald Trump did it. That's it.
Everybody bow your head.
You have to be a cult.
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You have to be a cult.
You all have to agree
with Donald Trump that he did it.
So you're not allowed to disagree.
Except MAGA is disagreeing.
And my guess is that's what Sharon's
about to read to us, and he's like,
are you calling all of them evil?
They kind of are.
Actually, they're really pissed
about this, and and they're right.
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And then so that little trick of yours
didn't work too much.
And then.
But if you notice,
he said about Pam Bondi.
She was not wrong
to lie about the Epstein files.
She was wrong to feed that monster.
The conspiracy theory that Jeffrey Epstein
actually did rape all those girls
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and his and the rich and the powerful
did actually rape those girls.
That's apparently talking
about that is feeding the monster.
Okay.
Who's the real monster? Ben?
Who's the real monster?
And speaking of which, now, the earlier
video, he said, I mean, that's the thing
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about conspiracy theories.
They're unfalsifiable.
Interesting. So let's break that one down.
Which one do you think
is the conspiracy theory that hundreds
of underage girls were raped by?
No one,
and no one should be prosecuted for it.
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And there are no clients or
hundreds of underage girls were raped
by really powerful and wealthy See,
men and and they were and it was taped
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and the tape was probably for blackmail
and but yet we're not allowed
to find out about it because it affected
incredibly rich and powerful people,
both the people who,
molested the girls and the people
who organized the whole thing.
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So which one sounds
like the conspiracy theory?
Ben says, oh, the idea
that the girls didn't rape themselves.
Ridiculous conspiracy theory.
And that the idea that he wouldn't
just want to tape it but not use it,
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not ever use it for blackmail
to make get more money or whatever else.
Absurd.
No, no, no, of course you tape it for fun,
but never use it.
And it doesn't matter
because there was no clients.
Who's the conspiracy theorist, Ben?
Because you were trying
super freaking hard to make it seem
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like Epstein's no big deal at all.
And it does make everybody question why?
Why if it if this doesn't have anything
to do with Israel,
why wouldn't you just tear into Epstein?
Okay, well, let's see
how his audience reacted.
Yeah. We'll see.
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Here are some of the comments. Let's see.
Frank Bergman 240 says Epstein goes
from one of the biggest news stories of
the decade to, hey, don't worry about it.
We're all just supposed to go home.
That's the question.
Jesus is Lord. 77, tens of thousands
of hours, hundreds of victims.
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And there's only 1 or 2 people involved.
And this was around the world.
Merck STAT okay, I've actually
listened to Ben for years
and would always respect his opinion.
This is just absolutely absurd.
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I have to unsubscribe after this video.
So he's just expending all of his capital,
it seems, on this one,
which would also beg the question
as to why a small sample of the many,
many outraged comments under the video.
But Shapiro isn't alone
in defending the Trump administration.
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Mark Levin Cuban also spoke out
in defense of Trump's DOJ and FBI.
His arch nemesis, Tucker Carlson,
had some strong opinions about that.
So let's watch this clip.
Where is Mark Levin on Epstein?
I noticed that all these very voluble
people who do not hesitate before imposing
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their opinions on the rest of us,
suddenly don't have
very strong opinions about Epstein.
What is that?
Every accusation is actually an admission.
- And but why.
- Is Mark Levin covering for Epstein?
- Yes.
- That's weird.
That's a great question.
And in particular,
when he's going to accuse you
of being funded by the Qatari government.
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And if only.
Right.
That's what I mean about the accusation.
- Is the.
- Qatari government.
The accusation, you know,
they concoct all these wild schemes about
how Steve Witkoff or me or you or anybody
else is funded by the state of Qatar,
when in reality, I mean, as you know,
it's like we're really you guys want
to talk about foreign funding.
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Let's go.
Let's take a look at your c3's
and release.
Release all of the data.
I will be happy
to take a look at it for you.
I mean, will this will this go away?
How will they make it go away?
Because tariffs aren't taking it
off the front page for MAGA loyalists.
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- So what gives?
- Yeah.
So, you know, I go back to the word,
the curious, funny word that,
Shapiro used unfalsifiable.
So he's like, well, if you make conspiracy
theory that can't be proven false,
then it becomes circular.
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Well, we all know that there are tapes
and there are victims, but if the
government never releases the client list
and never prosecutes any of them,
well, you can't prove it.
False. Why?
Because we literally don't
have access to the information.
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Who blocked it?
Obviously, some body or organization
that is super powerful.
And then ironically, they say, well, you
can't prove it because both the Democrats
and the Republicans kiss our ass.
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Gee, I wonder who that is.
I wonder, I wonder.
I mean, my God, if the Republicans had
dirt on the Democrats that they could use,
you think they wouldn't?
They use it.
You think Trump would have held back
in his first term or this term?
And if you you think they
had dirt on Trump
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and the Democrats chose not to use it?
No. So in my experience,
there's only one force powerful enough
to get both parties to heal.
And we know it.
And that's why Levin and Shapiro
and Ben Shapiro are in an absolute panic.
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Like, look away, look away, look.
Oh, you guys are all a bunch
of conspiracy theorists.
There was no there was no clients at all.
I trust Daddy Trump.
Daddy Trump is right. No no no no.
Pam Bondi's right.
Kash Patel Dan Bongino are right.
Like all sweating and stuff.
It's definitely not Mossad.
Don't look at Mossad.
It's definitely not okay.
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It makes me want
to look at Mossad more, not less.
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
And when a underage victim, now an adult,
decides to commit suicide, Virginia
Guthrie, that's just all for nothing.
And nothing went down here.
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Nothing happened. It was just one bad guy.
It's just not plausible, and I don't know.
I heard today, and I don't know how you
feel about it, that Pam Bondi could be
on the chopping block because of this.
This could cost her her ouster
because of the way this has been handled.
Gotta serve up somebody.
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Exactly. It's a scapegoat.
So they are hoping to make her
the sacrificial lamb.
So they say, oh, we solved it.
It was Pam Bondi.
She said that the files existed
when they didn't.
They think that's going to work.
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I mean, look, the left is super mad
about this and and animated etc.,
but I think the right is even more angry.
Like the the right's like, now you're
going to play us for a fool after all
this, and you're going to tell us after
every one of you Trump, Patel, Bondi,
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Bongino, all of you guys owe Epstein.
Epstein, Epstein.
Epstein. Epstein.
Epstein.
Pedophiles. Pedophiles.
Groomers are the worst.
Now, nothing to see here.
There were no clients at all.
We're not going to charge a single person
out of all those women who were raped.
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Those girls who were raped. Who cares?
We're not going to charge
one single person.
You'll have no justice at all.
And they think that they're going
to serve up Pam Bondi as a scapegoat.
And Maggie is going to go along
and then go back to, you know,
under the bosom of Daddy Trump.
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I don't think so. You know, what about.
Raskin and the others who are saying,
oh, we're investigating.
Maybe they should just get out of the way
if MAGA is leading the charge.
And is that upset
about this carrying the torch?
Should the Democrats
just sit on the sidelines?
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No, no, no, never sit on the sidelines.
Get in the game.
So if Raskin can find out who actually
did it or who the clients are,
that would be amazing.
I don't believe in the James
Carville school of sit on your ass.
Okay, so I love that Raskin
is looking into it.
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And hey, somebody in government
has got to look into it.
So I love that a Democrat
raised their hands to look into it.
Good.
Be honest.
Actually serve the American people.
That's terrific.
And Sharon, in terms of MAGA doing
something about it, what can they do.
They they thought they elected a guy
who was going to do it for them,
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and now he just betrayed them.
And there's one other thing
about that betrayal
that I want to get to in a second.
But so because there's a giant difference
between the voters and the politicians
and the people in power,
it's true, the Democrats, true,
the Republicans, Democrats actually
want the policies that would help you guys
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higher minimum wage, paid family leave,
lower drug prices, etc..
Right. The Democratic voters do.
But the Democratic politicians,
80% of them are corrupt.
They took the donor money
and they're going to serve the donors.
Right.
And then you'd go to the Republicans
like the MAGA base.
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We disagree with them
on a billion things, right?
And we fight about all that stuff,
but they genuinely care
about the Jeffrey Epstein's, issue.
For sure.
They care about it 1,000,000%,
but all their politicians are crooks.
So 80%, at least of our
politicians are crooks.
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Not 98% of their politicians are crooks.
And they're all like,
oh no, no, no way, no way.
We're never going to give you Epstein,
even though we were the ones
who made a big deal out of it.
And so the last thing on that, Sharon,
is the reason why this is
so damaging to Trump is not just because
he went back on his word,
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and he's screwing them over on something
they view to be super important.
Jeffrey Epstein and I agree with that.
It's because he ran as anti-establishment.
He said, I'm not one of the elites.
I'm going to go after the elites.
And and, you know, and I'm going to give
a big middle finger to the establishment.
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And one of the things
that the establishment does is gaslight
you, tell you that there
are no Jeffrey Epstein clients.
And, and, and you should bow your head
and listen to mainstream media
and establishment politicians.
Right.
And so they elected Trump to fight
against that because that's what he said.
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And now he gets into office.
Turns out he is the establishment.
He is among the elites
who were literally friends with.
He was Jeffrey Epstein's friend for 15
years and Ghislaine Maxwell's friend,
and said how he wishes her well
once she got arrested.
He said that he knows Jeffrey likes
them young and and that he was.
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Jeffrey was a terrific guy,
he said back in the day.
So now they're like,
that's all the stuff we knew.
We told them that they wouldn't listen
to us, but now they're seeing it
with their own eyes.
Yeah, yeah.
Trump is a billionaire
that's among the elites.
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And yeah, he loves establishment.
The reason he was fighting them
wasn't because he was against them.
It was because he was mad
that he wasn't in their club.
So now he's in their club
and he's forgotten all about his,
voters and MAGA and his base.
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And that's the deeper reason
why they're so livid.
Wouldn't it be ironic if out of everything
else, this could spell a tapering off.
I won't say the end, but this could be it.
No, no, there's definitely a tapering off.
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Like, is it going to undo Trump
or the Republican politicians etc..
That's to be determined.
This is just begun. Right.
But is there an unraveling of support
from Trump?
Yes.
This is like when Democratic voters
found out that Joe Biden was too old
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for the rest of the country.
They're like, how could you not see it?
Right.
But for Democratic voters,
they really believe the propaganda.
So when we lifted the curtain
and they saw Biden was super old
and couldn't finish a sentence, they were
like, And that's the moment right now.
A lot of MAGA is having with Trump.
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You peel back the curtain
and Trump is going, yeah,
that is Jeffrey Epstein's totally fine.
He had there was no victims at all.
We're not going to prosecute anyone.
You should just all forget about it.
And MAGA is going oh yeah. Yeah.
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He's also in the establishment. Yeah.
He also lied to you?
Yes. He's also a greasy politician.
So that's how it works.
We, for once in our lives,
we have to elect a real populist.
I don't know if it's ever going
to happen, but, But the fake ones
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are relatively easy to spot.
The problem is when they're on your side.
For a lot of folks,
they become much harder to spot.
Right.
Let's find a real populist
and take over this government and actually
have it serve the American people.
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I love it.
Maybe she'll run for Senate,
or maybe she'll run for the presidency.
I know you already talked about it,
but I don't know.
I'd like to see her.
I think there's a chance.
Catch a flier?
Yeah. No, no.
There's definitely a chance.
And rebellion Pac is out there
looking for just the right candidate.
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So come join us and join the rebellion.
Because it's a rebellion
against Democratic leadership.
It's a rebellion
against Republican leadership.
It's a rebellion against
the establishment,
against all these corrupt politicians.
So. Rebellion.
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