Back in September of 2012, a pro-Israel lobbyist. I mean, he's part of this think tank that tends to push narratives that are favorable to Israel and Israel's foreign policy. His name is Patrick. Clawson, was speaking at an event. [00:00:16] It was the Policy Forum in Washington, DC, and he was talking about what could be done to go to war with Iran. I'm not even kidding. So this is 2012 under Obama. Remember, three years later, in 2015, Obama did one of the best things [00:00:32] in his presidency, which was get Iran to sign a nuclear deal. They stopped enriching their uranium. Unfortunately, Trump ripped up that deal in 2018, which led to Iran enriching uranium. But nonetheless, three years prior to the Iran nuclear deal, here's what Patrick Clawson had to say. [00:00:49] Take a look. I frankly think that crisis initiation is really tough, and it's very hard for me to see how the United States. President can get us to war with Iran. [00:01:04] Which leads me to conclude that if, in fact, compromise is not coming, that the traditional way of America gets to war is what would be best for U.S. Interests. Some people might think that Mr. Roosevelt wanted to get us into World War II. As David mentioned, you may recall, we had to wait for Pearl Harbor. [00:01:22] Some people might think Mr. Wilson wanted to get us into World War One. You may recall he had to wait for the Lusitania episode. Some people might think that Mr. Johnson wanted to send troops to Vietnam. You may recall he had to wait for the Gulf of Tonkin episode. We didn't go to war with Spain until the USS, until the Maine exploded. [00:01:39] And may I point out that Mr. Lincoln did not feel he could call out the federal army until Fort Sumter was attacked, which is why he ordered the commander at Fort Sumter to do exactly that thing which the South Carolinians had said would cause an attack. So if, in fact, the Iranians aren't going to compromise, it would be best [00:01:58] if somebody else started the war. What did he mean by that? If somebody else started the war? So I assume that he means. Because we know that there's no justification for this war. [00:02:16] We need Israel. Israel will attack Iran, Start the war and then drag America into it. Or something needs to happen. Some sort of event, some sort of terrible thing needs to happen that impacts Americans. Yeah, that would drum up support to go to war with Iran. [00:02:33] Well, okay. That's what's happening today. That was in 2012. It's interestingly right between now and, September 11th and September 11th, obviously was a cataclysmic event here in America. And we did go to war with Iraq afterwards. [00:02:50] And Iraq had nothing to do with nine over 11. But to be fair, they had weapons. Oh, no, they also had no weapons of mass destruction. And do you want to know where we got the fake intelligence on the weapons of mass destruction? Our beloved ally Israel gave us that fake intelligence. [00:03:05] So. And remember, whenever Ted Cruz or anybody else is asked about it, what does Israel do for us? They give us intelligence. Fake intelligence to drive us into war after war after war. And at the time, Israeli leaders said Iraq is our number one enemy, [00:03:21] Israel's number one enemy. And right now, before this war began, they said Iran is their number one enemy. And look at that. We're in a war with both of them. And interestingly enough, you know, Israel started one here. The one you guys just saw with your own eyes. [00:03:38] And the other one was after a cataclysmic event here in America. Yeah. It's just I thought the whole framing of what he was saying there was a little sick. Right? Because it's like, oh, man, we really want to go to war with Iran. [00:03:53] But, you know, historically speaking, when the US finally did decide to go to war in other contexts, obviously they had to wait for something devastating to happen to Americans or to our soldiers. You know, in the case of Pearl Harbor, for instance. I mean, luckily, you had a president at the time, Obama, who was pursuing [00:04:12] legitimately pursuing diplomacy to get a nuclear deal signed with Iran. Yeah. One more thing about that. Look, so right now, I don't know that they've even gotten enough support for us to do regime change. That's maybe why Trump announced the so-called cease fire today. [00:04:30] And there's been pushback from some portions of his base and his voters, etc.. But if they were able to get Iran to counterattack and hit U.S. Troops. Boom. You'd have all you would need for regime change. So start the war. [00:04:45] Agitate, agitate, drag America into it, wait for Americans to get killed, and then step aside as America fights your war for you. But I'm sorry, we can't say these things that are super obvious that we're all seeing with our own eyes, as it happens right now. And by the way, fun little fact people like Bill Kristol, [00:05:03] who are part of the neocons who are ready to start this war, if Kamala Harris had won, are now beginning to go, oh, Trump, not so bad, 100%. I mean, that's Bill Kristol has always been a snake. And for all the Democrats who were fooled by him and all of the other [00:05:20] Bush administration neocons who were like, you know, MSNBC was littered with them and continues to be littered with them. Just dig a little bit deeper, please. Just because you share an enemy, Donald Trump doesn't mean that these are good people. These are people who dragged us into the forever wars, [00:05:37] drain this country of its resources, just complete and utter disastrous people. Every time you ring the bell below, an angel gets its wings. Totally not true, but it does keep you updated on our live shows.