Fertility clinic in Palm Springs bombed this weekend. What the FBI is calling an act of terrorism. The suspect, 25 year old guy Edward Berkowitz, died in the explosion, injured four others as well. Caused significant damage to the American Reproductive Center's facility. [00:00:20] Authorities say Berkus espoused extreme ideologies that argue against procreation and view life as inherently harmful. He Left behind a 30 minute audio manifesto, attempted to livestream the attack. The FBI is on the case, but has already released their theory on a motive to kill. [00:00:40] Davis, head of the FBI's Los Angeles office, said they were treating the incident as an intentional act of terrorism. Davis added that online posts and other evidence suggested the suspect had nihilistic ideations, and that this was a targeted attack against an IVF facility. [00:00:59] Fbi spokesperson Laura Eimiller, meantime, also said the agency was investigating whether the suspect's alleged anti-natalist views were a motive behind the attack. The blast, which occurred just before 11 a.m. On May 17th, shattered windows of nearby buildings. [00:01:17] It was felt more than a mile away. That's how powerful it was. Despite the destruction, no embryos or staff members were harmed in this as the clinic was closed at the time. So, Jake, you know this this attack marks a disturbing escalation. [00:01:33] We're seeing this ideological violence, I guess. What? What does that tell us? About the current state of extremism inside the US? Yeah, I'm actually really worried about it. And I'll tell you why. So this guy is a super rando, like he's an anti-natalist. [00:01:55] Whatever. Like, what is that? So I Like it's people who think there should be less people on earth and less children. That's like your opinion, man. And there's a good way to deal with that. Don't have kids. What are you trying to blow up other people for? [00:02:12] So I had to look up to see if that's a left wing or right wing position. I don't know what wing it is. I don't know, maybe left, I don't know, but that's my point. Which is now everybody who's mentally [00:02:27] disturbed writes a manifesto and decides that their issue is the most important thing, and either usually gets a, you know, an assault rifle and goes and kills a whole bunch of people, or these days they're blowing up cars in front of places. [00:02:43] It's so frustrating. And then, so how do those ideas A get into their head? And then B how does the second idea get in their head, which is oh, okay, if you're anti-natalist or pronatalist or whatever, you have to somehow murder people. [00:02:59] But far, far too often, Sharon, that step two happens now that it didn't happen before. I'm really upset about this or I'm really animated by this. And that's step one. That happens all the time. [00:03:14] Step two I will not murder people because of it. That's the part that's deeply disturbing you. What's the next attack going to be? Because of Natalism? No, because of something that makes sense. No. Of course not. Most of these people have mental health issues. So what's the next one going to be about? I don't know. [00:03:32] But I do know there will be one. And they will get that second thought in their head. Oh, right. Since I believe adamantly in something, that means, by definition, I should go murder people for it. No it doesn't. No it doesn't. You could be super animated about things. You see me on air. I'm super animated about things. That doesn't mean I have to kill anyone. [00:03:51] So apparently you have to tell people this. Stop killing people. It's scary because it is. Sharon. One more thing about that, because people listen to shows. People listen to different things, and not just in politics, [00:04:08] but in things that arouse passion. And and I don't think that it's the host's fault, I don't think it's the show's fault, etc. But now there's an idea out there that if you're like that, if someone is making you mad, the correct answer isn't to debate them. [00:04:26] The correct answer isn't to get involved in, you know, fixing the problem, doing something productive. The correct answer is tear them down. Either like their character, their reputation, who they are, or just murder them. Right? [00:04:41] And so I think that's a disastrous idea, and I'm worried that it's spreading like a virus. - Yeah. - Got to figure out what this. It's not just a call to action. It's. It's converting to this call to deadly action. And where is that coming from? Where it leaves passion and moves into that realm. [00:05:00] The the perpetrators. The accused. Father Richard broke down in tears during a televised interview. Here he expressed shock, sorrow. Upon learning of his son's actions. He admitted he hadn't seen his son in more than a decade, but he did recall him as a good kid. [00:05:16] Like hiking. He liked to go hunting. He liked to go rock hunting. He liked his computer. He had a good heart. Something changed in him. But what was that? Investigators are examining Berkus's online activities, including a website, social media postings that detailed his extremist beliefs [00:05:35] and hinted at plans for the attack. FBI is treating this as one of the largest bombing investigations in Southern California history. California Governor Gavin Newsom, Attorney General Pam Bondi have both condemned the attack, pledging full support for the ongoing investigation. [00:05:51] Is there any part of you that. It's not blame. Believes that the intelligence community. I mean, if he had certain postings, he was leaning towards an attack of this kind. Should authorities have have known about it? No. That's why it's so scary. [00:06:07] No. How the hell are they supposed to know about this rando who's anti-natalist and going to do a bombing unless he said it? And, you know, and they're tracking, like, meticulously, all of online comments, etc.. Maybe, maybe, maybe. But no, I think people are too quick to blame folks for it. [00:06:25] So sometimes this happens. And that's why it's even scarier because stopping the next one is incredibly difficult. If I had a great answer for how to stop the next one, I'd be very happy to share it. But I don't have one. And so for the dad, by the way, just so you know, he did also say that he, [00:06:42] that this guy was always in the bombs, but he said little bombs like smoke bombs, stink bombs and stuff like that. Nothing dangerous. Yeah, yeah, I hear you, I hear you, but didn't end well. And he hadn't seen his son in ten years, so he really didn't know [00:06:58] what was going on. But again, I'm not blaming the dad. I'm not blaming anybody. I'm just saying everybody put out. The only thing I could think of to do that's positive is everybody put out the message that physical violence is never the answer. That's basically saying, I can't defend my ideas intellectually. [00:07:17] I surrender. I'm no good at this. I'm mentally weak. Hence, I will resort to violence instead. As you were saying that, it reminded me of the insurance CEO killing. Now, there were a lot of people who said, look, we're we're getting left on our deathbeds. [00:07:35] We're not being helped. So maybe it's justified. You know, maybe they didn't go that far. Some did though. It's just it's mind boggling how we get a handle on some of this. Every time you ring the bell below, an angel gets its wings. Totally not true. [00:07:50] But it does keep you updated on our live shows.