May 13, 2025
REPORT: Pam Bondi See Her Role As 'TV Messenger' For Trump
While Attorney General Pam Bondi spends a shocking amount of time on TV, a new report reveals that Stephen Miller is behind the scenes doing the work at the DOJ.
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Honestly every single day.
Pam Bondi is on Fox News.
She's on Fox News
more than she does her job, and other
people are starting to realize it.
And that might be by design.
But Pam Bondi is not happy about it.
So it turns out that, well, last week,
Laura Loomer, as you just heard,
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fumed at Attorney General Pam Bondi
for spending all of her time
doing these Fox News appearances.
But according to a new report
by The New York Times, Bondi really does
see her media touring as part of her job.
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The problem is, it's kind of become
her only job, according to this report.
So the same report explains that Pam Bondi
is more of a mouse mouth piece,
or I guess, like the outward facing
representative of the DOJ, as opposed
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to the person calling the shots.
That's like really the thesis
of this whole piece.
And that really does raise
an important question.
Jank if it's not Pam Bondi serving as DOJ
or as the Attorney General
in the Department of Justice
who is calling the shots.
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Yeah, well, we have some answers to that
as this story is going to reveal.
But I'm torn on this story.
So it's I'm not torn
in terms of the policy or substance.
No, it's a disaster at DOJ.
It's as bad as you could have imagined.
But is it true that a lot of the job
is optics and that the Democrats
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didn't understand that?
Yes, that part is true. Okay.
That comes at the very end.
But first, let's find out who's actually
in charge of the Justice Department
in making the decisions.
As you'll see,
it's a person who's not even a lawyer.
Well, we'll get to that shortly, actually.
But before we get to who the person
calling the shots happens to be,
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the piece, titled As white House
steers Justice Department.
Bondi embraces role of TV messenger.
So for this piece, The Times spoke
to 20 current and former officials
and reported that Bondi sees her role as
that of a surrogate, a faithful executor,
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and high volume messenger.
Compelled to cede ground
to empowered players in the West Wing
and in her own building, who exercise
significant authority that rivals her own.
She does not appear to have played a
major role in creating overall strategies,
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focusing on aligning her department
with the game plan
and framing attacks on opponents.
Current and former officials said so.
Media matters for America says that during
President Donald Trump's first 100 days
in office, Bondi appeared on Fox
and Fox Business 24 times, which is a lot.
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That's that's every other day, almost.
And so here's a look
at some of her appearances.
You said last week that you have
the Epstein files on your desk.
When can we see them and what's taking
so long to release them?
I do, I think tomorrow, Jesse.
Breaking news right now.
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You're going to see some Epstein
information being released by my office.
President suggested over the weekend.
Maybe rebuild and reopen Alcatraz.
Put him there in the middle
of the Pacific Ocean someplace.
I'm all for that, all for that.
And I think it will be a cost savings.
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She must apologize immediately, not only
to all Texans, but to our country,
to the American shareholders of Tesla.
President Trump won the popular vote
by an overwhelming majority.
One grain of fentanyl.
I put it in here to show you earlier.
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You can barely see it.
It looks like one grain.
This is salt, not fentanyl.
One grain is all it takes
to kill an American citizen.
Your tax dollars hard at work,
ladies and gentlemen.
Now, again, the big question is
if she's just doing media appearances.
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And that's really the only role that she
has within the Department of Justice.
Who's calling the shots?
It turns out it's Stephen Miller.
Yeah, well. Oh, well.
All right, so first of all,
we got a poll in the live chat.
What's worse, having Pam Bondi
in charge or Stephen Miller in charge?
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I have thoughts on that as well.
And so already, Miller is worse.
I totally agree.
Watch the show live 6 to 8 p.m.
Eastern and be part of the show here.
All right.
So, first of all, on those appearances,
two thoughts on it.
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Number one, it's embarrassing.
Like when you go out there and you are
so over the top, like, she is, like he.
- Won with a great majority.
- Like he won by two points.
Okay.
Which for Republicans is like a minor
miracle because they almost never win
the popular vote in the national election.
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But don't pretend that it was like 60%
and everybody's falling at his feet,
especially when his polling is at 39%,
40% in that ballpark right now.
So it's on the other hand,
this is the problem
with Republican and Democratic parties.
They have completely divergent problems.
Okay.
But at the same time
serving the same purpose.
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So Merrick Garland didn't know
what a television camera was,
never saw one, didn't understand
what a microphone was couldn't make
his case if his life depended on it,
and slept in a Rip Van Winkle.
If you remember that old story,
like just sitting in it, sleeping
in a cave somewhere, that's terrible.
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That's terrible.
You got to go and be aggressive
and make your case, etc.
She, on the other hand, all she does is TV
and she just comes on and she's like,
oh my God,
I don't know if you know, but Donald Trump
is a great person to ever live.
You're like, Oh Jesus Christ, man.
I just look, I get that the heads
of federal government agencies,
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bureaucrats and even elected lawmakers,
especially elected lawmakers, lie.
That's what they do. They're liars.
Right?
And so I'm not shocked
that she went on Fox News
and lied about the Epstein files, but it
was just such a brazen, specific lie.
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Yeah. Like tomorrow.
Tomorrow, Jesse Watters,
you're going to see the Epstein.
- Did we see Epstein files, though?
- No. But here's the thing, Anna.
And I think that's one of the really
interesting parts of the story.
And I'm very curious to see
if it's going to then land
on Stephen Miller's shoulders.
Okay.
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Because in the old days,
if you were a Democrat who lied.
Oh, Joe, Joe Biden is young and dynamic.
The mainstream media would be like, Bravo.
Yeah, Joe Biden's the youngest person
who's ever lived, right.
And then with Trump team for the MAGA
crew, if you said Donald Trump,
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is eight feet tall and shoots
lightning bolts out of his ass, right?
- They would be like, of.
- Course he does.
- Of course he does.
- Right.
And no one.
And so you could tell any lie you want
if you're a Democrat or a Republican,
and you would have a squadron
of people in media going.
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It's absolutely true.
He's eight foot tall and he's young.
So now Pam Barton is getting caught in
with new media at the helm.
And the situation is
a little bit different.
And so what do we tell
you guys here on the air.
I said look I've been all over these shows
and they're going to splinter
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because they don't agree.
So what. Why did Pam Bondi get caught?
Did they get did she get caught
by the New York Times?
This is a really good story.
It has really interesting details
we didn't know.
Like Stephen Miller's in charge, etc..
We'll get to more of those in a second.
But no, she got caught
by the right wing guys.
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And why?
Because she was kissing Trump's ass.
No, they don't mind that at all, right?
No, because she said the Epstein files
would be there and they weren't there.
And when they caught her,
and they're super mad about it,
she's like, I don't get it.
I lie 24 over seven.
I took like $25,000 from Donald Trump
and dropped a case against him.
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And no one minded.
I mean, I made $3 million
with another deal I made with Trump.
No one minded.
We. Why are you guys minding
all of a sudden when I'm lying?
I'm supposed to lie?
That's. I think that's her reaction.
Yeah.
And look, honestly, the the release
of the Epstein files is a priority
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for Trump supporters for MAGA.
That is something that they wanted.
That is something
that Trump promised to do for them.
And so it is a I mean, it took balls
to engage in that very specific lie.
Yeah, but she didn't know.
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I'm telling you, she didn't know that she
was going to get caught by her own side.
In fact, nobody knew
that like other than us.
I'm being honest, right?
You could hate me for it. But it's true.
Like if you ask the Democrats.
Or is MAGA going to catch Trump's ass
kissing attorney general,
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every Democrat would have said, no way.
MAGA will never turn on attorney general
as long as she's got Trump on his corner.
And no Republican would have believed it.
ET cetera.
But yeah, but you can say, all right, now,
what I'm curious about is did
Stephen Miller then, like, is he involved
and not releasing the Epstein files?
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- Maybe.
- And that's a really important question.
Is Stephen Miller going to get caught
or are they going to give him a free pass?
We'll see. We'll see.
But I do want to remind everyone
of who Stephen Miller is.
So let's go to the very last video here.
This is J-3.
This is the guy who's calling the shots
in the Department of Justice.
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Let me also just say, since we're
addressing the subject of style,
the most stylish president
and first lady in our lifetimes
are Donald Trump and Melania Trump.
Donald Trump is a style icon.
He changed American fashion
in The Apprentice.
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People spent the next ten years
trying to dress like Donald Trump.
So if anybody deserves a puff piece
on their sense of style, it's Donald Trump
and the first lady, Joe Biden.
To the point
that Mike Huckabee made so well.
Looks like a walking corpse.
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The only style article that should be
written about Joe Biden is how you've
mastered the art of looking embalmed.
The scales of justice look, look great.
So he is not a lawyer, but he, you know,
it was clear from the start
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that Miller, who is not a lawyer, would
exercise control inside the department,
current and former Trump aides said.
So, look, there are two,
two more power players in the Trump
administration, or I should say
in Trump's Department of Justice.
And they actually happen to be
Trump's personal lawyers,
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Todd Blanche and Emil Bove, the third, who
serve as Pam Bondi's top two subordinates.
Now, according to The Times,
they oversee the day
to day operations of the department,
and Bondi was deeply displeased by the
arrangement and told friends it undermined
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control over her own organization.
It made no difference.
She has tried to adapt and has
become close to both a stoic enforcer
who she refers to as Sweet Emily,
according to several officials.
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Now, one example of Bondi's limited power
has to do with the January 6th pardons,
which is a really
interesting revelation from the story.
So she apparently only wanted pardons
to be issued to the nonviolent individuals
who had either been convicted or charged.
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The times reports that Bondi was
blindsided by Trump's decision to just
pardon everybody blanket pardon, including
the violent rioters, including the
individuals who assaulted police officers.
It's all caught on camera.
So here's how the Trump administration
responded to the Times's report.
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Chad Mizelle, the attorney general's
the attorney general's chief of staff,
said close coordination
with the West Wing was essential to fight
a liberal department workforce.
President Biden, he argued,
did not need to exert such control because
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most career staff members were already
willing to blindly implement his agenda.
- Jank.
- Yeah.
So this story is filled with, like,
unbearable details
of how these guys operate.
And I know so this portion
most of MAGA doesn't know.
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I don't know if they'll ever know. Right.
But it's important for all of us to know.
And it's most important
for independents to know.
So the the part of the story that bothered
me the most, is Pam Bondi goes into
a meeting with one of her top lawyers,
and in that room, they haven't yet changed
Biden and Kamala Harris
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and Merrick Garland's pictures.
Right.
They've only been there
a couple of months.
It's an oversight. It's not.
Nobody's trying to do anything with it.
Right.
So she sees and she goes, oh, I should
change those pictures so far, no problem.
Okay.
She's you know,
they should change the pictures.
She walks out of the room, fires the guy.
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- Like like immediately.
- Immediately fires him.
That's hilarious.
Not I'm not sanctioning it.
I don't think it's a good thing.
It's just like it's unbelievably
ridiculous and egotistical to do that.
Like who cares?
So. Because to them,
the law is totally irrelevant.
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Serving the average American voter
is totally irrelevant.
The only thing that matters
is how hard you kiss Trump's ass.
And this is really it's
as an American citizen.
It's unbearable.
The Department of Justice is supposed
to be independent of the white House.
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It's supposed to be
that no one is above the law
and that we're all treated equally.
And justice for all.
You remember that, right?
Here they are, brazen about it.
They're like, if you even unwittingly,
subconsciously slight Donald Trump
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by having the wrong picture
up on your wall or whatever it might be.
- You look at me kind of funny.
- You're fired.
You're fired.
I talked to somebody at a Young Turks meet
and greet in Chicago today.
He works at the government.
He's like, nobody looks at each other
anymore in the government offices.
We're all so scared.
And we go into work,
we keep our head down, and we try not
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to get fired because you don't know
what you're going to get fired for.
How is that different from most people
working for corporations?
Well, no, I hear you.
But they go and do their jobs, right?
- I get it, yeah.
- And so.
And they're not worried about it.
Like Gestapo, like government officials.
And not just like, hey,
are you doing something liberal
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or are you doing something extreme
from the past or something?
No. Are you sufficiently loyal
to the Dear Leader?
This is how a communist dictatorship runs.
This is how you get the tyranny
of government, etc..
So now, speaking of tyranny,
we go back to Stephen Miller.
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So the only thing worse than Pam Bondi,
whose only job is apparently is puckering
up for for Trump is is Miller, who just
said, a couple of days ago that we
should suspend the writ of habeas corpus.
How neocon of him.
Okay, so first of all, yeah,
that is a neocon position.
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That's right.
And so Stephen Miller is not a lawyer.
And he goes, oh, I know, I know.
Yeah, it's it's an invasion.
Yeah, that's what it is.
But wait, is it an invasion
or did you close the border?
Because I thought you were bragging
about closing the border a minute ago.
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And if the border is closed,
how is it an invasion?
It's only been used four times.
Every time in.
In actual war circumstances. Right.
This is not a war circumstance at all.
Right.
But they're like, oh,
there is an invasion of their country.
We are going to suspend it.
So what if you don't know what that is?
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Is the reason why it's cornerstone of
our Constitution in Western civilization
is in the old days,
tyrannical governments and kings
would just grab somebody up
off their property and they'd lock them up
and they lock them up forever.
And people say, where'd he go?
I don't care,
I don't have to show you I'm king.
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I could be as tyrannical as I like.
And then through the Magna Carta.
The Lords originally got the right to say,
hey, you have to show me to a judge.
If you're going to arrest someone,
you have to show them to a judge
and say why you arrested them.
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If you don't have that,
we're back in the dark ages.
We're back to total dictatorships.
And guys, look, just to give you a sense
of how backwards this is
and how ridiculous this is.
I remember during the Bush administration,
he actually did suspend habeas corpus
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specifically for suspected terrorists.
And just like we're hearing today with
Trump supporters who are totally on board
with doing away with habeas corpus
for undocumented immigrants at the time,
during the Bush administration, the
big argument was, well, we're suspending
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habeas corpus for suspected terrorists.
No, no, but you need due process
when the federal government unilaterally
points to you or points to anybody
and claims that they're terrorists,
you should be able to have your day
in court and force the federal government
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to provide evidence
showing that you are a suspect.
That you are actually engaged
in terrorist activities.
Okay.
By the way,
the Supreme Court struck it down.
It took a I think it took about a year,
but the Supreme Court
finally did strike it down.
So the idea of suspending habeas corpus,
people think like,
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oh, they're foreigners, who cares?
They have no rights.
First of all, they do have rights.
This has been established
by the Supreme Court multiple times.
Our constitutional rights extend
to people who are in the country
but are undocumented.
Okay.
And by the way, who's to say the
federal government can't accuse someone
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who is an American citizen, engage in
a case of mistaken identity, accuse that
person of being in the country illegally.
Accuse that person
of allegedly being a gang member.
And if you just suspend habeas corpus
in regard to those people, those American
citizens wouldn't have their day in court.
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Yeah. So last things here.
So going along with what Adam was saying,
Supreme Court has ruled for 200 years
that the rights in the Constitution
apply to people that are in this country,
whether they're citizens or not.
Citizens.
So you can say you don't agree with that.
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Okay.
But once you take that right away
from citizens or non-citizens, you erode
your own rights because the Supreme
Court has said they are the same rights.
Okay.
So now if you say, well, no, I don't,
they should set a new standard and
non-citizens should have no rights at all.
I don't care about 200 years of American
history or Supreme Court decisions.
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And and it should only be for citizens.
Okay.
Well, now we run into the second problem
with due process
and writ of habeas corpus.
If you they don't have to present you
to a court, you could scream from inside
a dungeon in Louisiana or El Salvador.
But I'm a citizen, but I'm a citizen,
and they won't hear you because they
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never had to present you to a court.
Exactly.
Look, I'll give you
another specific example.
My husband was born in the United States.
Okay?
In Miami.
He has a name that is shared
by many drug cartel members, apparently.
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And I didn't know this until I finally
gathered the courage to ask customs.
And you know, when you when you fly back
to the United States from a foreign
country, you have to go through customs.
And every single time they pull him
to a separate room and interrogate him.
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And look, it sucks that he's being
interrogated, but I got to go.
I got to go. I've got things to do.
So, like, why are you guys
wasting my time?
What's going on? I'm kidding.
But, like, seriously, like,
why are they doing this every time?
Simply because his name is Christian
Lopez, and they admitted this to me.
His name is Christian Lopez.
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There are a lot of, like,
wanted cartel members with that name.
So we have to interrogate him.
Well, what if a mistake is made
and there's mistaken identity
and he gets accused of being
one of those cartel members?
Yeah.
First of all, a there could be mistakes.
There have already been mistakes.
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Right? Right.
And there's no the Trump administration,
Biden administration,
any administration is going to be perfect
and never make a mistake.
No, that doesn't make any sense.
That's why we have habeas corpus.
That's why we have due process.
And it could be not just mistakes.
I mean, you got your husband.
My nephew was pulled over by customs,
and Border Enforcement coming back into
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the country just a couple of days ago.
He's an American citizen.
He was born here, and they started
questioning him about his views
on Israel and on Trump, first of all,
his views on Trump and Israel.
His views on anything is irrelevant.
He's a US citizen, right?
But now, wait a minute.
Left wing, right wing, middle wing.
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If you got the wrong view on Israel
and you're a citizen.
But they decide.
Oopsie doopsie, we just sent you away.
And I don't have to present
any evidence to a court.
What are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
I'll tell you what you're going to do.
You're going to say, oh my God,
this is the tyrannical government
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- I was worried about.
- Exactly.
And guess what they're doing, brother.
They're treading on you.
You told them don't tread on me.
And here they are, treading all over you
and all over all of us.
Exactly.
Here at TYT, we believe no step on snake.
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