Nancy Pelosi is back and she's pointing some fingers. And Biden is not going to take this well because she's indicating that maybe he should have dropped out sooner, which I think a lot of people are probably thinking these days, she said. Had the president gotten out sooner, there may have been other candidates in the race. [00:00:15] The anticipation was that if the president were to step aside, that there would be an open primary. And as I say, Kamala may have I think she would have done well in that and been stronger going forward. But we don't know that that didn't happen. We live with what happened. And because the president endorsed Kamala Harris immediately, [00:00:31] that really made it almost impossible to have a primary at that time. If it had been much earlier, it would have been different. I mean, it would have been an almost any it would have been difficult to have more than a week long primary regardless, even if he hadn't done that. But look, it's interesting to like agree with Nancy Pelosi, but not really at all. [00:00:49] Like I also agree that he should have dropped out sooner, but she thinks seemingly that that would have just led to maybe a different sort of centrist alternative to Harris or Harris and nothing fundamentally different about the way she runs or the way Biden was president, [00:01:06] but she has a bit more time to introduce herself. And maybe you guys disagree. That just doesn't seem like enough to reverse the numbers that we saw. It would have been helpful, certainly. But the problem fundamentally wasn't just a little bit more time. It was the legacy of Biden, what he delivered, what he didn't. [00:01:25] And outside of the first month or so, the way Harris chose to campaign and what her focus was as a candidate. Yeah, I have a completely different take than you, Jon. I understand that, and I'll get back to what you said, but my take is, yeah, I wish somebody would have told us this about 14 months ago. [00:01:42] - And so, look, you were. - Too busy doing something to tell them. I don't remember what. Yeah. So, look, we showed you the clip yesterday of September 2023. We start a petition to get Joe Biden to drop out. But remember, if I start that petition in my basement, it doesn't go anywhere. [00:02:01] You all signed it, right? So you guys were right. You were right before anyone else. And what happened to all of us who were right about how Joe Biden needed to step down and remember? I would say over and over again, he's got to go now so we can have enough time for a primary, and we don't just anoint the next person. [00:02:18] We were exactly right and right. So what's so frustrating about that now is the Johnny come latelys like Nancy Pelosi. And let's be honest and I'll say it, Pod Save America and a lot of these other people going now, oh, you know what? Did you know that Joe Biden should have dropped out earlier? [00:02:34] Well, brothers and sisters, when I said that, all of you said you're being ridiculous. Joe Biden is the best possible candidate against Donald Trump. Joe Biden is young and dynamic. Joe Biden is great. So then why didn't you? Okay, number one, the all of the other talk show hosts. I'm sorry, but please don't come at me with, oh, I guess Joe Biden [00:02:53] should have dropped out a year ago. As if you're on the right side. You are definitively, ridiculously on the wrong side. Not only did you say that Joe Biden shouldn't drop out, but you criticized people who said he should. So don't come at me and tell me now. Oh, yeah. [00:03:10] Kumbaya. Oh, we just figured it out, and. Oh, yeah, we're the ones pointing out. No, you're not. No you're not. You were the ones protecting Joe Biden. So that's just a stone cold fact. Okay, almost all of them guys forget Save America, which is just an establishment show. [00:03:25] So it's not surprising that they were now there. And notice, by the way, every establishment show, whether they're on mainstream media or online, they're only honest after the election, after the election, they go, oh yeah, well, we should have done a year ago is the thing that I told you we shouldn't do back then. [00:03:41] Okay, okay, then be honest. Can you give me at least give me a mea culpa? Forget me. Forget whoever else was, right. Forget our audience. Can you just say for once like, oh, we were wrong. Instead of pretending now that you had it figured out, it's absurd. And guys, what's worst of all is I'm this one. [00:03:58] I'm not going to name names, but I asked progressives to go on their shows to make this point about Joe Biden so we could get to a better place and maybe even pick a progressive in a primary. And a lot of them said, no, Joe Biden is the best candidate and we will not have [00:04:14] you on because you could hurt Joe Biden. So are any of you going to apologize for how wrong you were and how you helped to cost us the election? So Nancy Pelosi, the fact that she's acknowledging we were right now, she's not acknowledging we were right, but she's saying the same things [00:04:31] we said 14 months ago. I'll take it. That's I'm I appreciate she's at least being honest about it now. And she earned a lot of credibility by trying to help push Biden out and and was the number one factor in pushing him out. It was late, but my God she had a big effect. So thank you. So that I distinguish her because she actually took action. [00:04:49] Right. It might have been late. I wish she took it when we took it, it could have made a difference. But at least she did the right thing. So. And it's a weird thing to be on the same side as Nancy Pelosi. But there's a lot of people who lied to you throughout the entire process and now are now pretending to like, come to Jesus moment, right? [00:05:06] So please spare me and John real quick to your point. If we had a real primary, we could have had progressives and populists in the primary and they could have taken different positions. Maybe you would have had one progressive that was like, who wins? Yeah, that was more leftist, for example. [00:05:22] But I'm not I'm not against having the primary. I'm saying with how late he dropped out, how long could the primary possibly have been? - A week. - Well, no. Look, guys, this is I explain this all throughout, and you guys all saw it with your own eyes, right? I said we got to go now 14 months ago, because otherwise [00:05:38] we can't have a real primary. And then I joined the primary when no one else would like get in the race. Now get in the race now. Right. And at that point, it still was possible. Right? Then the primaries concluded. Now we're in desperate grounds. Yeah, right. Absolutely desperate grounds. [00:05:54] But even at that point, the reason Pelosi and Obama didn't endorse and why they're mad at Biden today for endorsing Kamala Harris right after he dropped out, is because Biden was giving them he knew they all knew Kamala Harris [00:06:09] was not the right candidate. So that's why they didn't endorse her. And so when Biden endorsing her was not like, hey, I'm on the team and I'm endorsing Kamala Harris because I'm doing the right thing. No, he was saying, screw you, Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama. Watch this. I'm going to endorse her. [00:06:25] And that's going to make it inevitable. Ha ha. If you didn't want you didn't want to lose with me, now you'll lose with her. And so what was the alternative? What I said. Ezra Klein said so many other people said, which was go to the convention and do a convention. That's literally what we did every time. But what happened? [00:06:42] You saw it with your own eyes. Everybody panicked. No, Jake. No. You got it's got to be Kamala. It's got to be Kamala. You remember blue MAGA. Blue MAGA lost their mind at the idea that it might not be Kamala. And that we might have a choice there, like, no choice for you. [00:06:58] It's got to be the anointed. And that's what they did. And again, a monumental mistake was. I think if Biden I think I wish Biden would have kept his promise from his 2020 campaign of being a one term president and a transition, [00:07:15] a transitionary figure, or if he was going to quit on the campaign, I think he should have just resigned. Had Kamala be in the office actually making decisions, actually having people see her in the the seat and she wouldn't be beholden to the sitting president. [00:07:35] She could actually run a campaign and be like, look, Joe was doing all kinds of Netanyahu ball fondling. I don't do that. Look what we're doing now that I'm in here. Joe was, you know, he was doing all of this stuff in Ukraine. I don't do that. [00:07:50] I'm doing X, Y, and Z. Joe was, you know, kind of resting on his laurels on this. Like that to me, would have been the best thing if he would have just straight up quit, which obviously would have been the right move because he's out on his skis. And let Kamala be the president. [00:08:06] If this was ultimately going to be his late ass move. Yeah. I mean, I think the constant across all of these is he just should have dropped out much sooner or really not even dropped out like was said. He said he would be transitional. He effectively lied to us like he just he should have ran once and that's it. [00:08:24] And then the next generation comes in so that it's not just like Harris trying to figure out a way to pitch herself as not being tied to Joe Biden. It's a whole bunch of people who can make a variety of different cases that they're coming in with different ideas and everything, and unfortunately, that's not what we got. One last sentence I hate to break your heart, but the rest of the media is lying [00:08:41] to you about hero worship of politicians. Oh, Kamala Harris is so great you should all bow down to her. - She's flawless. - She's flawless. Flawless. She even got Queen Latifah on her side, right? No, 99% of politicians are egomaniacs. [00:08:58] Yes, they don't care about anyone but themselves. The rest is mythology. Thanks for watching The Young Turks really appreciate it. Another way to show support is through YouTube memberships. You'll get to interact with us more. There's live chat emojis, badges. [00:09:13] You've got emojis of me Anna John Jr. So those are super fun. But you also get playback of our exclusive member only shows and specials right after they air. 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