Well, I know you don't want to give away the whole game book, but you do have deportations. Mass workplace stuff planned. Any other kind of category of deportations of interest. Look, as. The president, as the president said on stage many times, which I agree with 100%, [00:00:18] it's going to be the same. It was during his first administration, which is just a hell of a lot more of them. The man you just heard from is Tom Homan, who has just been selected by Donald Trump to serve as border czar in his administration. Now, Homan's role will not require Senate confirmation, and we should get [00:00:36] to know him and what he represents and what he intends to do as the border czar under Donald Trump. Now, he previously served in the first term of Donald Trump's administration as acting director of Ice. Homan also worked within Ice under Obama's [00:00:54] administration, so he was at first a holdover from Obama's administration. And then during the Biden administration was no longer in the white House in any role. But now, with Donald Trump getting elected for a second term, he will be the so-called border czar. [00:01:10] Now, he stated earlier this year. Quote, Trump comes back in January. I'll be on his heels coming back, and I will run the biggest deportation force this country has ever seen. They ain't seen crap yet. Wait until 2025. Okay. [00:01:27] Now, he stated that the deportation operation would start with what he called the worst first, and I wanted to get a little more clarity on that. Like, what does that mean? The worst first? Like, where where is the focus going to be at least in the beginning of these so-called mass deportations? [00:01:44] So there are about 50,000 undocumented immigrants in the United States who have committed crimes. They claim that they're going to go after them first. I'm sorry I said 50,000. I meant 500,000. There's another 1.5 million [00:02:00] who are basically given deportation orders or deportation orders have been attached to what the next step is for them. And so they're first going to target 2 million individuals who have either committed crimes, or it has already been determined [00:02:17] that they should be deported after that. Unclear exactly who they're going to target, but what is clear is that Homan is absolutely a hardliner on the immigration issue. Yeah, there's another one here where we're going to have a really interesting, [00:02:34] point where things collide. Right. So the parts that are clear, I agree with Anna. They will definitely go after the criminals first. And that makes sense. Everybody's going to be on board for that. And if there's some that say, oh, no, you know, Miss 13, I don't even [00:02:51] know what they were saying, like, I don't. So let me not impugn anyone because no one's actually defending, not going after the criminals yet, but of course they should be deported. And so, and then the folks who, already have adjudication, I get it. Those are going to, whether we like it or not. [00:03:07] And some portions of that we totally agree with and some portions of the outer edges of that we might not agree with, but that's going to happen. Okay. Largely going to happen. Okay. Now number two is they might do things like back to remain in Mexico. And so those are all within the realm of what the American people [00:03:24] voted for in my opinion. Again, whether we like it or not, they did. They won. We lost. And that I think that is solidly within the expectations of the American people. Now, the main expectations American people have is that trans detainees who are undocumented not get gender reassignment surgery, but that I'm [00:03:41] not sure that's ever happened once. So that's like they ran $40 million of ads on it. So the reason I bring that up is because the Trump team should not take that as a license for yanking people out of their homes and going, well, I mean, [00:03:57] I ran a rando trans ad, and so that gave me permission to root out 12 million people from their homes and destroy people's families, communities. And by the way, the economy. And if they do try to do that, I think they're going to get in for a rude awakening where the American people draw the line [00:04:14] and go, no, you're going too far now. No, I think you're right about that. And in fact, what I'm particularly concerned about when it comes to home in is that he was fully on board for the family separation, you know, which was at the beginning of Trump's first term, [00:04:32] even after Trump himself signed an executive order to end the practice because he didn't like first of all, he probably didn't like the fact that it was hurting his approval rating. That's when his approval rating really started to to take a dip. But he claimed at the time that he didn't like, you know, the appearance of children [00:04:51] being ripped from their family members. So I'm going to get to that and give you more details on that in just a moment. But Homan still 1,000,000% on board with that. And so the question is, will Donald Trump and his administration feel emboldened by the sheer numbers of people [00:05:10] who voted for him this time around? Because it wasn't close, guys? Yes, he won the Electoral College votes necessary, but he's also the first Republican candidate to win the popular vote since 2004. And so he might view that as a mandate to be particularly vicious [00:05:27] in his immigration policies. But I think that he would basically take the wrong lesson or message from the amount of people who did support him. And look, to be fair to what you were saying earlier. Jake, you're right. I mean, Donald Trump ran on this issue. It wasn't just that ad, okay? [00:05:44] That ad was only meant to hurt Kamala Harris. Every single rally, every single speech, every single interview. Donald Trump kept talking about immigration. Immigration. Immigration. Those who voted for him kind of know that that comes with the package. [00:06:00] Yeah. So super curious to see how this plays out because first of all, we're going to do honest coverage. And you think like well I mean doesn't everybody. I don't think you even think that anymore. Right. So why is that relevant in this case and why am I bringing it up? Because once he starts doing it at the first time, he takes out anyone. [00:06:17] Even if it's like the Venezuelan gang or whatever. Right? The left in not left entirely. Not the voters, but some on the left on TV and the Democratic Party and some on the extreme left are going to howl like he's Hitler reincarnate for deporting [00:06:35] a guy who's wanted on 13 different crimes. Right. That is not the time to howl. And we will be very clear. Hey, that is what we think people voted for. That makes sense. That doesn't make sense, right? We should push back here, even though maybe some maybe they did win on that. [00:06:51] But it's our job to push back. Right. So there's going to be all of these gradations. And when they go too far we'll be here to tell you when they go too far. So we're not just doing it based on partizanship, but on what he did. And so our one tool that we have, it's pretty much the only thing we have left [00:07:07] is that Donald Trump likes to be popular. And so if it turns out that he's really trying to bring back 12 million people and he's just ripping one community apart after another, after another, my guess is the that American people are going to push back enough that he stops, but I don't know. [00:07:25] I mean, he could dig in and he could go in a wrong direction, right? There's there's another part of this equation that we need to be real about, whether voters like it or not. And there's going to there's going to be a point where there's a clash [00:07:40] between anti-immigration hardliners and the business community. Because whether people like it or not, undocumented immigrants are woven into the fabric of the American economy. And so the idea of deporting tens of millions of people [00:07:59] would destroy the economy. Now, those who, you know, don't like undocumented immigrants want all of them out. You have to accept the fact that it will cause problems with our economy. Donald Trump is pulled in two different directions on this issue as it pertains [00:08:14] to the economic community, of course. And he wants to have good numbers and good results with the economy. And then the other direction he's getting pulled in is by the anti-immigration hardliners, so we'll see if that clash ever comes to fruition. [00:08:30] I am curious to see, though, how he will act if that does happen. So let me go back to Homan. Tom Homan, who, of course, is the border czar pick for Trump. I want to talk about what he had to say about some of Donald Trump's earlier immigration policies. [00:08:46] He stated that the policy of separating children from their family members at the border needs to be considered for a second Trump term. He though Homan's agency didn't play a direct role in separating families, he was one of the policy's most fervent advocates, [00:09:02] both in public and in private, according to people who worked with him in 2023, for instance, Homan stated the following. This is anyway, I woke up every day pissed off because this administration destroyed the most secure border in our lifetime, and I'm sick and tired of hearing [00:09:19] about the family separation. You know, I'm still being sued over that, so come get me. I don't give a crap, Okay, now let me just remind you all about how disastrous that policy was. So disastrous that Donald Trump finally signed an executive order [00:09:34] to end the practice. But an estimated 5000 children were separated as a result of that terrible policy. And as of this year, as of this year, 1360 of those children had yet to be reunited with their family members because their parents were deported. [00:09:53] And our government under Donald Trump's administration did not keep track of them. So the parents are nowhere to be found. And these kids have been without their parents since Trump's administration, guys. I mean, just complete and utter disaster. [00:10:10] And so, as Mother Jones reported in 2018, Trump was like, okay, this isn't this isn't making me look good. So he ended the practice, but the damage had already been done. Yeah. Last thing I'll say is let's also put aside yet another unproductive slogan, [00:10:25] which is abolish Ice. Guys, stop making it seem like we're against all law enforcement. That's a terrible framing. Like, for God's sake. Can I get the word reform back? Like, can we reform Ice? Can we reform policing? I know some on the left will say, oh, no, that's way too soft. [00:10:42] We have to rip the guts out of it. Well, how'd that work out for us? We didn't. Now we're going in the opposite direction. Because people thought that our language, the way that we framed the issue, some of the things that we asked for were too extreme. Now they're pushing back too far in the opposite direction. [00:10:58] Exactly what we were worried about. So I don't think abolish Ice is at all helpful. And if you wanted to do that, you did the exact opposite. Thanks for watching The Young Turks really appreciate it. Another way to show support is through YouTube memberships. You'll get to interact with us more. There's live chat emojis, badges. [00:11:16] You've got emojis of me Anna John Jr. So those are super fun. 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