We're a dumping ground. We're like a we're like a garbage can for the world. That's what's happened. That's what's happened to her. We're like a garbage can. You know, it's the first time I've ever said that. And every time I come up and talk about what they've done to a country, [00:00:18] I get angrier and angrier. First time I've ever said garbage can. But you know what? It's a very accurate description. No it's not. America is awesome, I love it. But we're in a situation where everything is topsy turvy. [00:00:34] So now, if Democrats had said this before, Republicans would be like, they're trashing America. How dare they call us a garbage can? Those leftists hate America. But then, on the other hand, the Republicans used [00:00:50] to be against the Russians. Now they're like, oh, we love Russia. Russia is our best friend, right? And they used to be against communist dictators. And they're like, Kim Jong UN fell in love. Fell in love. We love communist dictators. What's going on here? [00:01:05] Okay, now, you're not going to be surprised to find out that the context of that was he was calling immigrants trash and that they were such trash. They're turning the whole country into trash. Seems like such a swell guy. Here you go. When Kamala came in, she deliberately dismantled our border [00:01:21] and threw open the gates. He threw them open the gates to an invasion of criminal migrants from prisons and jails, from insane asylums and mental institutions. She has unleashed an army of migrant gangs who are waging a campaign of violence [00:01:40] and terror against our citizens. No person who is responsible for so much bloodshed and death on our soil can ever be allowed to become the president of the United States. Okay, so let's note a bunch of things here. [00:01:56] Like, can you believe Kamala cobbler Harris call Donald Trump a fascist? Can you believe it? He's like this person responsible for so much bloodshed and death all over the streets. We can't elect her. She's just the worst. Bloodshed, death. So what happened? You guys don't mind that. We don't mind that. [00:02:11] By the way, you know who calls Kamala Harris a fascist? Donald Trump does. And Republicans are, like, outrageous. If you say, say it about Trump. But if he says it about Kamala Harris, great. If he says it about immigrants. Just last night I debated seven conservatives overall went great. You guys should check it out on YouTube. [00:02:28] But they constantly like, oh no, no, he doesn't call immigrants criminals and rapists. Are you serious? I mean, thing he did, literally the first thing he did, he just did it again and again and it's not. Guys, if he's talking about gangs, well, we got in a fight with leftists [00:02:44] because we think that there really are Venezuelan gangs in places like Aurora, Colorado, etc. And we have to be careful about that. But he's not just talking about gangs. Whenever he's talking about it, he doesn't say, oh, the Venezuelan gangs like we do or, you know, miss 13 or whatever. He's like, the immigrants are all coming from lunatic asylums and criminals, [00:03:03] and they're going to kill you all. And. Oh. What? He's not unhinged. He's not unhinged. Are you insane? Anyways, I was on another conservative show today, and I talked to them about the winner of Trump brackets. Oh, we got a winner today. [00:03:19] Okay, so we had hundreds of submissions by you guys. Then we narrowed it down to 64 to play, like March Madness style Trump madness. And we had the Final four. And finally we got to the finals earlier in the week. And it has been decided the votes are in. What is the according to our audience? [00:03:40] What is the worst thing that Donald Trump has said or done? That is a hell of a contest, right? Bart? You got a drumroll or anything? Yeah. Here we go. Well, it's coming, it's coming. You need the suspense on this one. You can't just jump right into it. Then I'll bring in John and Wallace to discuss this. [00:03:57] And if somebody won $1,000, I'll tell you about that too. Sometimes we play these fun games. We might play one on election night where you guys can win. So also a drum roll on which TYT member one okay. Oh, because we have a winner today too. [00:04:18] Okay. And the winner of Trump brackets. The very worst thing that Donald Trump has said or done called for the termination of all rules, regulations and articles in the Constitution, I wholeheartedly agree. To me, you know, obviously the fake elector scheme was a Final Four. [00:04:36] It didn't make the Final Four, but it was in my final four. To me saying that his vice president deserved to be murdered, that also didn't make the Final Four, but I thought it should have made the Final Four. Those are the top three for me. But terminating, wanting to terminate the Constitution. [00:04:52] Yeah. Number one. And and I set it on the conservative show today and they're like, no. And if you guys saw it last night when I told one of the conservatives last night that he wanted to terminate the Constitution, he's like, no. And by the way, Democrats, why didn't you get this out? Why didn't you get this out? [00:05:08] He literally wrote on Truth Social. It is inarguable. Oh, because he lost the election, he wanted to terminate the constitution. Okay. Anyways, love the people who put Trump brackets together. And that's you guys, our audience. You guys are amazing. So we wanted to play a game here where you guys filled out the brackets [00:05:24] just like March Madness, and whoever got the most right would win $1,000. So we have that answer too. Bart, you ready again? This person has been a member since 2018. Holly. Okay, Holly. The winner. [00:05:40] Nice job. Excellent job. Holly. Thanks for playing along. Thank you to operation Hope volunteers who came up with this game and orchestrated. You guys are amazing. Everybody join operation Hope at tyt.com/hope. All right so let me bring in John and was here a lot to talk about John [00:05:57] you got the the immigrants are turning America into garbage. You got terminated Constitution thoughts. Yeah. First of all it's deeply strange to be sitting at the desk and have you throw to me for comment. That's not how this goes. But anyway, yeah, so I hate it. And I hate him. [00:06:15] I know that, you know, I'm supposed to not be biased or whatever. I think people probably suspected where my heart lay, but I despise everything about him. He is utterly grotesque. He's a terrible, terrible person, and he cannot fade from public awareness fast enough. And I really hope that him losing the election is a big step in that direction. [00:06:33] This is disgusting. It's not wholly different from what he normally says about people who weren't lucky enough to be born inside of the United States. Or more importantly, and let's be clear, lucky enough to be born looking kind of like him. He says stuff like this quite a bit. [00:06:48] And by the way, it's not that different than what a lot of Republicans say, Tucker Carlson said. Immigrants make us dirtier, by the way. Deeply fascistic language. The idea that we need to be worried about our cleanliness and purity. And it is these mongrels from outside of our country [00:07:06] that come in and they taint our purity. That has been a hallmark of fascist movements, and Donald Trump has invoked it from time to time. Tucker Carlson does. The others do, too. The idea that migrants are not some people, perhaps, [00:07:21] that have committed crimes or might, but generally at lower rates than native born Americans and a lot of people who are struggling to have a better life, as virtually every wave of migrants that has ever come into the United States throughout its long history have is disgusting. He has convinced millions of people that every one of them is a criminal, [00:07:39] and thus they deserve no consideration, no empathy, no human rights. You can you can put them in camps, you can send them out by the millions. And perhaps if they're injured or die during this process, you really shouldn't worry about it because they're all insane murderers. [00:07:55] It's disgusting. And by the way, repetitive. He was at an event today, and he went off on a long rant about the garbage cans. Again, that's just a thing that he's going to do now. And so there was a lot of hyperbolic language about the Madison Square Garden rally that he's going to have. And a lot of people were saying simply because he's going [00:08:12] to Madison Square Garden, it's the same as the Nazi rally of decades ago. And I thought that was going way too far. And I think it probably still will, but can't wait to see what he rolls out for that event. I have a feeling the garbage can talk will be a significant percentage of it, but we'll have to see. [00:08:28] Yeah, I was I got layers of questions for you, but I mean, and almost everybody in America is an immigrant of some sort, but your family and my family are more recent immigrants. And back in 2016, he ran against Muslims saying we should do a total and complete shutdown of Muslims. So that's me. [00:08:43] And this time around, he said, Haitians are eating cats and dogs and dirty. And then that's you. So how do you. I mean, let's start with the first question, which is, you know, how worried are you about Donald Trump as an immigrant? [00:09:01] I mean, I just think the rhetoric that he's using, obviously nobody agrees with that. We don't need to even debate the merits of it on this panel. It's vile and it's, you know, pretty racist in its nature. [00:09:17] I think it's a mistake on his part. Honestly, I think it hurts him more than it helps him and I and we've talked about this before up here, on the show, and that Republican politicians oftentimes have more contempt for their constituents [00:09:34] than pretty much anybody else, and that he genuinely believes that, like calling immigrants pieces of garbage are what his audience want. He thinks he's serving them up red meat because he thinks they're foaming at the mouth racist, when generally I think if he just came out with a message that [00:09:51] was like, look, we're a sovereign nation. We get to control our border. Who's coming in? And there should be a process and we should enforce it, and it should be orderly. I think most people specifically within his, coalition would be like, that's exactly how we feel, that he feels the need to take it this far. [00:10:10] I think he feels a little bit insecure. And I think, you know, again, it just shows what he actually thinks of his audience. In terms of what it might, what his potential presidency might mean for immigrants. Like, I, I'm not convinced that even some [00:10:27] of the most strident Republicans, actually want in practice to see the military or local police or however or Ice or whoever to, you know, go into the restaurants that they're eating and haul people out, force them to show their papers, and if they don't put them in vans [00:10:46] and do this to tens of millions of people across the country, like and have that play out in the public square like nobody has the stomach for that. I really, I really, truly believe that some people might think I'm naive in that thought, but I just don't see one how that would happen. [00:11:03] And I think another thing quiet is kept, man, that people don't understand is that a lot of the undocumented workers that are here are here at the behest of our oligarchy. They love underpaying the hell out of these people for their excellent work. And I really do have a hard time believing that Donald Trump is going to overrule [00:11:21] the oligarchs of our country and kick every single undocumented worker, undocumented worker, out of our country. Look, I agree with you that he definitely proposes things that it's hard to imagine how they could like. Like you can't collect 20 million people. [00:11:36] Like, that's that's literally like, that's Nazi Party stuff. You cannot set up the machinery of something like that. It's just too much. I also don't think that it means that he wouldn't do anything. I mean, we saw his willingness in 2022 to use the military, [00:11:52] to use the National Guard. Like, you know, they were black bag and activists off the streets of cities. There was that that one guy, I forget if it was Portland or Seattle. Portland. Yeah. Yeah, they they just sent people in, gunned him down in the streets. And I'm not saying that that happened constantly or anything like that, [00:12:08] but I definitely think he would be interested in experimenting in this area. And also, I think even more so than him, like just ordering know the Marines or storming Springfield or whatever, he said in a rally in the last week, he said the migrants have taken over, Times Square. [00:12:25] They have guns. They have weapons the military doesn't even have. And I don't know what the hell that's supposed to mean, or if any of this is based on anything. And then he said, there are people who'd like to go in and deal with them, and they're going to be able to go in and deal with them. I think he would use like the National Guard or the military or whatever, [00:12:43] but I think more so he would rhetorically and legally free up his mobs to do what they want. I think that you would definitely see a rise in hate crimes and murders and effectively modern day lynching of people who either are migrants or suspected of being migrants because of [00:13:01] the way they speak or the way they dress, or, oh, you happen to look Haitian, you know, in this city or whatever. That's my fear is a little bit more broad based than just what he would direct from the top. Yeah, I hear you. I think you're both right. I don't think he's going to take out 20 million people, but I John's right [00:13:16] that it's going to be a mess and bad things are going to happen in that regard. So I want to go to two of our members here. I'm going to save the the end. I want to say one of the comments for the end because it's so amazing. So I'll get to that in a second. But first Winter scoop made this point and I want to ask was one last question here. [00:13:34] Winter scoop said Trump is still so stupid he thinks asylum seekers are literally asylum patients. That is true. That is true. He. That's why he keeps saying they are coming from asylums. He's so painfully dumb. - He has to. - Ask him that. [00:13:50] Yeah. And so, so look, wise, we got asylum seekers being men coming from mental asylums. We got the termination of the constitution. We got him using, like, old school fascist language about poisoning the blood of our nation with immigrants, etc.. [00:14:06] And you and I are two frustrated progressives. The Democrats currently tied or losing to him. How frustrating is that? Yeah, it's it's hard to, like, recount the amount of things that I find frustrating. [00:14:23] I think the painful thing for me is that, you know, I just last week got my absentee ballot from New York because I still vote in New York. And, you know, it's the same week that Kamala Harris is on the road, and she is bragging about Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney's endorsement. [00:14:43] And, you know, like part of me is it's sad, but part of me wants to see that type of politics lose. Like that's where these people have have put me, man. Like, obviously I think Trump is a disaster. Obviously, I don't think that guy should be at the top of our government. [00:15:01] He's he's ill equipped. I think he has bad intentions. I think he's incompetent. I don't think he's very smart. I think the people around him are such, you know, power hungry, you know, little DC bastards. [00:15:17] And he's the kind of guy who the last person he talks to can have an inordinate amount of influence on his decisions. I think all of that stuff is dangerous for our country. But when I look at Kamala's campaign, man, like the the Cheney situation, it's like like, where is this Dick Cheney, Liz Cheney. [00:15:36] Constituency. I can't see the the usefulness of this. On what planet does aligning yourself with literally the wing of the Republican Party that has no constituency? You can say there's people that don't want immigrants in here. [00:15:53] You can say there's people that don't want their taxes raised. You can say, there's people who are Jesus freaks and God botherers and go nuts about stuff like abortions. Like, you can say this legitimately, a good amount of people who believe in that stuff and who will vote on that stuff, [00:16:08] you cannot tell me there's a constituency for neo cons, you know, American hegemony abroad and want to turn the Middle East into a shopping mall. Like, nobody likes this. And this is who Kamala Harris wants to align herself with [00:16:24] at the end of her campaign. It's maddening. Dude. Yeah. So look, I know why. And it's because they're in DC and they and they're in that bubble and they can't see straight. Because look, I've gone now on dozens of conservative shows. I haven't seen one Republican in favor of Dick Cheney in over a decade. [00:16:44] I'm sure that they exist somewhere in those magical suburbs that the Democrats are always talking about. But if she thinks she gained more Republican voters over progressive voters that she lost for backing Dick Cheney, and now we're worried that Liz Cheney [00:17:00] might be the secretary of defense. She's crazy. That's not like. But the reason why they can't see straight on that is because everyone in Washington loves Dick Cheney and loves Liz Cheney. So they're like, what what what? They don't none of them know a single progressive. [00:17:15] None of them know a single populist. So they're like, what doesn't the whole country and all the Republicans love Dick Cheney. Last time I checked in several decades ago, that's what Republicans were. Man. Wakey wakey. You guys are a disaster anyways. So they're tied. [00:17:31] - We're tied. - Yeah. We're going to definitely dive more into the polls later on. I would say I it sickens me every time I see it. I understand on some level that these are supposed to be proxies for an earlier Republican Party. [00:17:48] I think they've chosen the wrong proxies for that. I think I mean, Liz Cheney's bad. I guess she, you know, was good during the impeachment or whatever. Dick Cheney, you you do not have to give it to Dick Cheney. You literally never have to in any in any context. [00:18:05] I think that I don't know what the number of Republicans she's getting in Pennsylvania versus the number of progressives she's turning off. I assume that the cold political calculus is the progressives have no other choice, and that they're looking at all these different subcategories. [00:18:21] And each one of them is a sponge with a certain amount of water in it. And you can squeeze it and you can squeeze it harder and harder and harder, and eventually there's diminishing returns on that. And I think that there's probably considering the, you know, $1.2 billion they'll have spent by the end of this. They think we just can't squeeze these sponges any harder. [00:18:39] But maybe there's a drop of never-trump left. And if Pennsylvania is going to come down to 5000 votes, then maybe that's what we need. That's not my strategy. That's their strategy. And I still don't think that Liz Cheney and Dick Cheney are the right people to sell that. But I guess Nikki Haley didn't return their calls. [00:18:55] Yeah. So look, if if at the end they find a poll, I don't know how they would do this that, that supporting Dick Cheney cost them make up a number 10,000 votes, 100,000 votes. Do you think the Democrats would then learn the lesson? Oh, maybe we shouldn't be neocons war mongers. [00:19:11] No. What they'll learn, what they'll what they'll do is they'll say, these goddamn progressives, I can't believe I can't believe they got Trump elected. They should have loved Dick Cheney more. They should have loved my strategy more. You're not going to have that poll. The poll that you, I guess would have is you would look in Pennsylvania. [00:19:28] What percentage of the Republican vote did she get versus Biden in 2020? And ideally, it's a couple percentage points higher. Yeah. And by the way, of course, it's not just Liz and Dick Cheney. And guys I'm going to vote for Kamala Harris okay. - Because Trump's a madman. - I'm undecided. [00:19:43] But but it's it's the whole hey, I'm going to support Israel's wars no matter what. I love the military, the military talk, etc.. Look, every time I talk to folks in the establishment, they don't. You have to understand this context, especially if you watch The Young Turks. They don't, they don't. They're not aware of any of this. [00:20:01] They think wrapping herself around Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney is a genius idea to get those seven Republicans in the suburbs. They think that it has no bad effect at all. At all. Okay. And that's just stunning to me. All right. Finally, we go to our last member comment here. [00:20:18] And remember, guys, we do the show with the members. Hit the join button below on YouTube or go to target.com. Slash 2024. Be part of our community. On the website. And that's where we have the winner, Holly who won the Trump brackets. And then she wrote in. And so Holly Berry 84 already a funny handle wrote and said oh my god I won lol. [00:20:38] - LOL watching live. - Okay see Holly look at that. So I said you guys are going to get $1,000 wrong. Wait why wrong? She wrote in tight. I love you so damn much. I would like to split the winnings with tight so you can keep doing this amazing work. [00:20:53] My dog was just really sick with pneumonia and the $500 will finish off paying her vet bill. Thank you so much. No thank you. Holly. You're unbelievable. I love our members so much. Who does that? Who does that? Oh. Right there with you, Bart. [00:21:10] Well, can I actually mention someone who does something similar? So we did the Dragon a thon earlier this year. We were trying to have gifted memberships. That was like a competition. Everybody was competing to gift the most memberships, and we had a lot of really generous people. Gabby Mathis, a long time member who might be watching now, won. [00:21:25] And we wanted to put together this like big, like gift package of like merchandise and stuff. And she was like, no, actually, give that to a couple other people in the top ten who had gifted rather than getting it for herself, like, so selfless. - It's amazing. - Yeah. [00:21:41] Open minds. Open hearts. That's what Young Turks is all about. I love this community. All right. Come join us at tyt.com/20 24. Holly you're the best. And everybody check out John's show. That's what he's talking about. Damage report and the Dragon squads his viewers I love those guys. So. And I only have about 18 Dragon Squad t shirts. [00:22:00] Thanks for watching The Young Turks really appreciate it. 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