Oct 16, 2024
Kamala Harris Veers RIGHT In Interview With Fox News
Fox News anchor Bret Baier interviewed Vice President Kamala Harris.
- 14 minutes
My presidency will not be a continuation
of Joe Biden's presidency.
I invite ideas, whether it be from
the Republicans who are supporting me, who
were just on stage with me minutes ago,
and the business sector and others who can
contribute to the decisions that I make
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about, for example, my plan for increasing
the supply of housing in America
and bringing down the cost of housing.
Kamala Harris's presidency
would be different from Joe Biden's
because she loves Republicans
and big business way more.
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I don't know if that's the right message,
but that is the message
that she was sending during today's
interview with Bret Baier on Fox News.
And I want to give her credit
for being willing to go into what should
be considered hostile territory and making
a case for herself in this election.
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Now, Harris did sit down with the chief
political anchor, Bret Baier, today
for her first formal Fox News appearance
and she did not position herself
to the left of Joe Biden.
I want to be clear about that,
and I'm not surprised, considering she
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has really been trying to present herself
as a more moderate Democrat,
and she leaned all the way into running
to the right of the current president.
So, John, before I get
to the highlights and the clips,
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am I being unfair, by the way?
Can can people just acknowledge that I
want her to run on, especially on economic
issues to the left of Biden, which isn't
really the sign of a Republican voter?
I just want to put that out there.
But nonetheless, like, sometimes I'm
worried that I'm being a little too unfair
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to Kamala or too critical
because people tend to be more critical
of the party that they're closest to.
Right? What do you think?
I yeah, I wonder about that.
I don't I feel like we come across a lot
of people that are have complete blinders
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to their own side.
I think one of the reasons
Stuart has stood out is a willingness to
be critical of both sides in some period.
Well, basically whoever's in power.
No, I don't think that you're
necessarily being too critical.
I mean, I try to,
maybe to maintain my sanity.
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I try to simultaneously consider
all of the potential reasons that she
would be doing this, because the what you
just showed fits into a genre of things
she said and done that we don't like.
You talked earlier about like the hey,
Liz Cheney likes me and oh, Dick Cheney.
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And it's like, oh, that makes you sick.
And then you have this, it's this.
And I'm gonna I'm gonna have,
you know, a council of Republicans,
and I'm going to do all that.
I'm gonna put someone on my cabinet,
all this stuff that Republicans
would literally never do.
So she could potentially be doing it,
because she thinks that there are people
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that think bipartisanship,
harkens back to a bygone era before Trump,
and maybe they'll find that appealing.
She could be doing it because she thinks
some Republicans who don't love Trump.
This might make it more palatable
to cross over and support her.
And there is some polling evidence
that over the past month she has actually
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drawn like 4 to 6% more Republicans.
It could also be, and I think this is
probably the reason you are critical,
and that we might be critical of her,
that we think it accurately reflects
how she might rule as president.
If she's doing that stuff to get elected,
and then she immediately tells them
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to go kick political rocks afterward,
then kudos.
Fine, I love that.
The issue is that the last couple
of Democratic presidents have not.
Like they haven't trained us
to think that the Democrat is likely to be
way more progressive as president
than they were as candidate.
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It usually goes
the opposite direction, right.
And so I think it's probably a mix
of those three,
but there's probably too much of that
final category for either you or I. Yeah.
And for me the main indicator
is how the campaign was funded,
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because you're not going to have
billionaire donors
bundling tens of millions of dollars
in campaign donations for a candidate
without expecting something in return.
And so I think that unfortunately,
to some extent, that money has already had
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an impact on or influence on the messaging
she's putting out in this campaign.
So we'll get to all of that.
But first, I want to start with one
of the more contentious issues,
and that is the topic of immigration.
Let's take a look.
How many illegal immigrants
would you estimate your administration
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has released into the country
over the last three and a half years?
Well, I'm glad you raised the issue
of immigration because I agree with you.
It is it is a topic of discussion
that people want to rightly have.
And you know what I'm going to talk about?
Yeah.
But do you just a number
do you think it's 1 million? 3 million.
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Brett, let's just get to the point. Okay.
The point is that we have
a broken immigration system
that needs to be repaired.
So your Homeland Security secretary
said that 85% of apprehensions.
I'm not finished.
We have a we have a rough estimate of 6.
Million people have
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been released into the country.
Looking back, do you regret the decision
to terminate remain in Mexico
at the beginning of your administration?
At the beginning of our administration,
within practically hours
of taking the oath?
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The first bill that we offered Congress
was a bill to fix our immigration system.
Yes, ma'am. It was called the U.S.
Citizen Citizenship Act of 2021.
It was essentially a pathway
to citizenship.
For the finish. Yes, ma'am.
May I finish?
May I finish responding, please?
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But you have to let me finish.
You have the white House
and the House and the Senate.
And they didn't bring.
Up that bill
responding to the point you're raising.
And I'd like to finish. Yes, ma'am.
He should let her finish. I mean, come on.
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I mean, if you want to push back after she
finishes answering your questions, great.
That's what you should do.
But he's not even letting her
finish her point.
That's frustrating.
Yeah, I just that is
incredibly frustrating.
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So he might actually think
that he's helping Trump by doing that,
but he's just coming across as someone
who's, like, afraid to hear her answer
to me at least, like, yeah, let her talk.
I think that there's a good chance
that many Fox viewers might like it.
They want her to be,
you know, attacked or whatever.
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A lot of them, by the way,
were very critical of Bret Baier
for being willing to do this.
He was responding this week to all
the theories that he was only doing this
to prop her up or get her elected, like
right wingers were just turning on him.
Look, we often say that interviewers
debate moderators should not allow them
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to just filibuster.
Like if Ted Cruz
is being asked like or not, Ted Cruz, J.D.
Vance, same thing.
J.D. Vance, did Trump win or lose 2020?
And he goes off and says, well, you know,
I'm looking forward and I'm doing that.
You're not answering the question.
We should cut you off.
He asked her, do you regret not doing X?
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And she responded by talking about
all of the things they immediately did.
That's that is an answer to the question.
It may not be a direct yes or no answer,
but she is providing information
about what he asked about.
And he's not.
He's just cutting her off
before she can do that.
So I think this falls on the wrong side
of that line of them
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needing to sort of like put pressure
on the people they're talking to.
Now he goes on to ask about a specific
tragic incident that occurred involving,
an undocumented immigrant.
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Let's take a look.
Jocelyn Noguera, Rachel Moran,
Laken Riley they are young women
who were brutally assaulted and killed
by some of the men who were released
at the beginning of the administration
well before a negotiated bipartisan bill.
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This is well before Donald Trump
got involved in the politics.
This is a specific policy decision
by your administration
to release these men into the country.
So what I'm saying to you,
do you owe those families an apology?
Let me just say, first of all,
those are tragic cases.
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There's no question about that.
There is no question about that.
And I can't imagine the pain that the
families of those victims have experienced
for a loss that should not have occurred.
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So that is true.
It is also true that if a border security
had actually been passed nine months ago,
it would be nine months that we would
have had more border agents at the border,
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more support for the folks
who are working around the clock
trying to hold it all together.
Madam Vice President,
ensure that no future harm would occur.
I gotta say, given how difficult that
question was, I think she handled it
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about as well as she possibly could.
That's my take on it. What do you think?
Yeah, look, it's tough because on the one
hand, the way American politics works,
you're trying to take very complex issues
that take place over the course of years
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and have a million different aspects
over the course of an entire country
of 300 plus million people,
and trying to find specific things
that we can all agree on, like this person
murdered someone and that's bad.
And the way American media works,
you, you go for those specific cases
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and you use them.
So to some extent it's fair to do that.
But when you step back and look
at what they're doing, so is the standard
that we can have immigration
so long as no crimes are ever committed.
That's insane. That's insane.
The idea that no, nobody,
nobody was murdered under Trump.
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Like what?
Again? What game are we playing here like?
It's a massive country with
massive borders and complex systems.
Some of it federal, some of it's state,
some of it local to say that like, well,
I guess I guess he shouldn't be president
because a person was murdered.
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I mean, you were only VP,
you weren't even in charge.
But I guess we're gonna.
That doesn't make sense.
That's absolutely nonsensical.
But I understand why they would use
that as an attack line, I think.
I think it's effective.
Yeah, I actually want
to comment on that as well.
Look, I do think
that the issue of immigration
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and it's not just me thinking it,
it's based on every single election
related poll
that asks for voters to state, like
what their priorities are policy wise.
I think the immigration issue is huge,
and I do think that it's hurting
the Democratic Party.
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I think that the Biden administration
should have been far more willing
to implement the executive order
that Biden has recently implemented,
because it did slow things down
at the border considerably.
I get what he was trying to do
in accomplishing actual legislation,
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because legislation is much harder
to reverse compared to an executive order
which is currently being challenged
in the courts and could be reversed.
And so I just I think that Biden needed
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to be a lot quicker and a little more
on his feet on this issue,
and it is impacting Democrats electorally.
But with that all in mind,
I do think she handled that incredibly
difficult question really well.
She didn't downplay
that these tragic events, and I'm happy to
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see she handled it the way that she did.
But it is what it is.
I think immigration is a topic
that Republicans have realized
they could really seize upon in order
to hurt the Democrats electorally,
and we'll see how that plays out.
I want to move on real quick
to the economy.
Let's go to the highlight featuring
that part of the discussion.
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Why do you think more people say
they trust him on the economy
than they trust you?
I think that when you look at an
analysis of our plans for what we would do
as president of the United States,
it has been clear to those who study
and understand how economic policy works
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that moving forward,
because I do believe the American people
are ready to turn the page.
I don't know what that means.
Turn the page from what?
Turn the page
from Biden's economic policies.
Turn the page from neoliberal policies?
Definitely not.
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I mean, everything that she's put
out there in terms of economic messaging
makes it abundantly clear
that she's going to continue on
with neoliberal economic policies.
But I don't know, John.
I think this this is the area
where I'm actually the most
disappointed in Harris's messaging.
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I want her to go back to talking
about building more houses, passing laws
that prevent private equity firms
from buying up single family homes.
That's specific.
These are things that would actually
materially improve people's lives.
That's what I wanted to talk about.
What do you think?
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Yeah, that just seems kind of empty
like that seemed a little bit more.
And granted, you know, we could listen
to more, but that sounded more of like
the how people characterized
the way she communicated, like,
right as she was launching her campaign.
It's she's going to say stuff,
but it's not really going to be anything.
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And I don't think that's generally
how she's been as a candidate.
But right there, it did feel like that,
like, I don't I
didn't draw anything out of that.
That was just empty calories, I think.
Look, in some of in her stump speech
when she's talking about, you know,
like the cost of different things
when she's talking about inflation
and stuff like that.
I think that that's better.
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She could focus on
like the inflation report just came out.
It's the lowest it's been
in four years, I think.
Talk about that.
Tim Walz recently was talking
about the economy very effectively.
- What she was just doing there is not it?
- Yeah, I totally agree with you.
There are other highlights of the
interview that we're going to talk about
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