Sep 12, 2024
Springfield, Ohio Residents BEG For The Misinformation To STOP
City, county and school buildings in Springfield, Ohio were evacuated over a bomb threat.
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Multiple buildings in Springfield, Ohio,
received bomb threats this morning
amid fear mongering and lies
coming from some members
of the Trump campaign and conservatives
about the town's Haitian population.
Springfield City Hall
was evacuated around 8:30 a.m.
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Thursday following a bomb threat
to multiple
facilities throughout Springfield,
and that's according to a city statement
released today, Thursday morning.
Everyone who was in the City Hall building
was moved out and luckily is safe.
No one has been hurt,
and parents of students at one Springfield
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School also said that they were told
to pick up their children.
Driver and driver's license bureaus
in Clark County were also closed.
Today, in reflection or in response,
I should say, to the threats.
Now, we don't know too many
specific details about the threats.
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And right before the show, I watched a
police news conference where they wouldn't
even take any questions from reporters
and honestly offered up no information,
which is frustrating,
but here's what we do know.
The mayor of Springfield, Ohio,
Rob Roy, would not comment
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on the precise language of the threat,
but said it came from someone
claiming to be from Springfield
and mentioned frustration with the city
related to Haitian immigration issues.
City government said it was alerted to the
threat via an email message at 8:24 a.m.
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That was sent to multiple agencies
and media outlets.
By the way, if you want to check out the
police press conference that I'm referring
to, this is literally the same information
that was shared during that conference.
Again, we don't know the specifics
about who sent the threat
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or what exactly they said.
We do know that the threat was sent
to multiple buildings,
also to media, and that it was
from someone living in Springfield.
And by the way, look, I don't know
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how much the claims about the gross smears
about Haitians eating cats is playing
into this because, again, we don't have
all the details that we want to have.
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But some migrants are saying
that they're now living in fear
because of these these fictional stories
that are coming out about them.
And that's obviously disgusting.
It's awful.
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Let's take a look.
North Plainfield new contributor.
This man.
Too frightened
to show his face or use his name,
says coworkers at his construction job
have repeatedly asked him if he eats cats.
Vilas Dorseyville,
who runs a community center for Haitians,
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says many fled violence at home.
I got a.
Friend calling me, asking me if he has
to leave because he's scared for his life.
There are a number of Haitian immigrants
that I talked to
who were scared to even go on camera
because they're worried that they're
going to get harassed or targeted
when they show their faces
and tell people that they do not like
these claims being spread.
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The other thing that Velez told me is
that there are a lot of people who want to
see their futures and felt welcomed here,
and now they're really thinking
about moving and leaving and maybe going
to Miami or New York, places
that have long had Haitian communities.
So right now, I mean, everyone's losing.
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I mean, you've got bomb threats.
You've got schools shutting down.
In response to that.
You have City Hall buildings
closing and evacuating.
As a result of that, you have the,
you know,
Haitian population there living in fear.
I mean, what is this solving
this isn't solving anything.
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- This is terrible.
- Yeah.
So, look, I understand towns
that are concerned.
Hey, this was a small town.
About 59,000 people,
10 to 15,000 Haitians move
in over a series of years, by the way.
Again, like, you get the sense
that they're all illegal immigrants.
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No, that's not true.
A majority
the majority are perfectly legal.
They work in local neighborhood
businesses, warehouses, etc.
So. And there's so much demagoging.
Sorry to interrupt you, Jake, but I
talked about this a little yesterday,
in case you missed it.
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When it comes to Haitian migrants,
the reason why Jake says legal
is because there's been a program
in place since 2010,
after the big earthquake in Haiti
that grants Haitians
temporary protected status, so they're
able to come in legally after applying
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for temporary protected status.
Yeah. So look, I get it.
I in some ways, not politically, but like,
as a matter of nature, I'm conservative.
I'm very nostalgic. I love the past.
I don't want things to change.
So in my in the town that I grew up in,
when they started knocking down some
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of the woods and put up a giant Walmart,
I hated it, right?
- I mean, I'd.
- Hate that too.
- Yeah.
- And so there's change in different ways.
And so and here I'll give you
an example that's racial.
But so you can see
that this isn't just about race.
So in Turkey, there's a lot of, immigrants
that have come in from Afghanistan
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and Syria, and the Turks hate it.
Okay.
Not all of them, but a lot of them do.
Okay, so but those are fellow
Muslims there, you know,
and Turks are not Arabs or Afghans,
but they're in the same neck of the woods.
Right.
And they're all a lot of them look
similar, especially the Syrians.
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But they go, no, we don't want them here.
Why?
Because it's change.
So yeah, you could say that was racial
and this was racial,
but it happens all across the world.
It's the change that that sometimes
makes people uncomfortable.
That doesn't mean we shouldn't do it.
The world is constantly changing okay.
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And so we've got to change along with it.
And we've got but so if we want
to have a debate about, hey, should
we still have that policy for Haiti?
How much legal immigrants
should we let in?
Those are good rational debates.
While we love the Haitians,
while we love the people from all across
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the world that made this country great,
that's the way we should handle this.
But when the right wing comes in
and launches a political bomb,
basically here several things happen
when they leave the scene.
The the problems don't leave.
So the Haitians in that community,
as you saw from that one guy,
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but I guarantee you it's almost all
of them are hearing from their neighbors,
their colleagues, their coworkers.
Are you eating cats? Are you eating dogs?
And once it gets to the kids, you can't
get it out of the kids heads, right?
Because the kids don't have
as much checks.
And once they hear it,
it's for the God knows how long.
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They're going to think
that Haitians eat cats and dogs.
And it's gross.
It's gross demagoguery against immigrants.
And then JD Vance,
not talking about as much, but in a tweet,
threw in the one where he basically
admitted the story was false.
Right.
So even if it is false, he threw in.
Oh yeah, but they're diseased.
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This is gross. It's horrible stuff.
Then you add on layer on top of it
the bomb threats.
So look, right wingers,
I know you're going to catch feelings,
but my job is to tell the truth.
This is disproportionately right wing
because there's a culture of violence
and cultural weaponry on the right wing.
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So does it happen on the left wing?
Sometimes?
Of course, the legendary Bernie Sanders
fan who shot, you know, one of the
Republicans at a softball field, right?
They always come back to the same example
because it's one of the very,
very few examples from the left.
Right.
But the overwhelming majority
of those cases are right wing.
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That's not bias. It's reality.
Why?
Because they constantly talk about
Second Amendment remedies.
A tyrannical government
has a right to do whatever I want.
Okay. No, you don't know.
Do you think you got
the Second Amendment remedies
against the tyrannical government?
Yeah.
If they declared martial law and they
rolled out the tanks, which, by the way,
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Trump considered at a three hour meeting
about it after he lost the election.
If Trump did it or Biden did it, I look,
that's we're in a crazy scenario at that
point, okay, that's tyrannical government.
Your local official in Springfield,
Ohio, is not tyrannical government.
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And when you call in a bomb threat, you're
not just doing it to the local officials.
They called it into the schools.
And then they got to clear out
all the schools.
And the parents are a mess.
The kids are nervous
that they're going to die.
And what did that do? Oh, yeah.
I thought, oh, yeah, I'll show them.
I'll do a bomb.
I'll threaten violence.
Violence is the answer.
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No it's not.
Violence means
you're a coward and a loser.
You lost the debate.
I don't mean Trump, Harris.
I mean the debate over the issue.
So you're resorting to threat,
either violence or threats of violence,
because you're intellectually
not capable of engaging in a dialog.
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So you go to violence. Yeah.
And what's also incredibly frustrating
is there are real concerns
out of this community,
not about pets being eaten, but about,
you know, limited resources,
an overwhelmed, you know,
health care system there because the town
was set up for a smaller population.
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And, you know, it's a small town,
blue collar town that needs more support.
So a debate I think is fine as long
as it's a debate about possible solutions
for the legitimate concerns
in that local community.
But the problem with throwing
this kind of bomb, by the way, political,
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political bomb into an issue like this
is you end up with no solutions at all,
because rather than focusing
on the actual substantive matter at hand,
the focus is on this disgusting, salacious
story involving people eating cats.
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- That's not true.
- Yeah.
Last two things I'll say on that is,
number one,
if you saw an unverified video online,
it doesn't mean you have evidence because
the most famous one that they refer to,
the woman, they're like, oh, look at this.
A mentally deranged person eating cats.
She's not Haitian.
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She's not.
The video never said
she was Haitian and she doesn't.
That video
wasn't out of Springfield, Ohio.
Like none of it.
So guys, what happens is and this is
a reality, if a left winger does this
and sometimes it will happen, but they'll
get driven from the public square.
Okay.
But right wingers do this all the time.
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They'll take a video like that they
know is not a Haitian person they
know is not from Springfield, Ohio,
but on top of it on on Twitter
or wherever else they'll write,
oh, Haitians are eating cats and dogs.
Look at this from Springfield, Ohio.
And the average person that watches it
actually thinks it's a Haitian from
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Springfield, Ohio, because the right wing
guy who showed you that video is a liar.
He's lying to you on purpose to get
you riled up and to hate immigrants.
So for God's sake,
don't think that you have evidence.
Please do your just a smidge of homework.
Just use rational thinking for a second.
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And then finally, if you're a right
winger, you're not moved by any of this.
I don't care, I want it.
I bet they do anyway.
I bet Trump advances there.
But guys, since you're factually incorrect
and know the Republicans in the area
say you're incorrect,
the cops in the area say you're incorrect.
You're incorrect in every imaginable way.
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Do you not realize you lose
all credibility to Anna's point?
Now, who's going to have a debate
with a bunch of loons
talking about eating cats and dogs?
Well, you instantly lost the debate.
Now, nobody's going to do anything about
any immigration problem anywhere, because
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the minute anybody brings out a problem,
they're going to be like, oh, yeah, I bet
you think they're eating cats and dogs.
Woo hoo! Woo hoo!
- Because you clowned yourself.
- Yeah.
It makes any legitimate claims seem
like they're not credible, because the
same person making the legitimate claims
is also making illegitimate claims
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and outrageous claims that are unfounded.
So it's.
Anyway, it is a pretty disastrous story.
I hope everyone in Springfield is safe.
And if the story develops, we'll give
you more details as we learn them.
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