Oct 26, 2023
Manhunt Underway For Man Accused Of Killing 18 In 2023's DEADLIEST Mass Shooting
Robert Card, 40, is accused of killing at least 18 and injuring 13 others in Lewiston, Maine.
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Josh, can I just have you pause for
one moment?
I want you to finish this thought, but
I want people to know what
they're watching right now.
And this is video that we have just
obtained, you can see people running.
They are running from the bowling alley
that we believe is the site of one of
these shootings here in Maine that
we are covering at this moment.
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This breaking news coming in there's
this video of people sprinting from
the bowling alley.
You can see several people here.
I mean, what does that tell you about how
potentially crowded I mean, it's a bowling
alley on a Wednesday night if this is
the scene of an active shooting, Josh.
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>> At least 18 people have been killed and
at least 13 people injured as a result
of yet another mass shooting,
this time taking place at a bowling alley
in a restaurant in Lewiston, Maine.
Now, we have to note that there has been
contested information regarding the death
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toll, the injury toll, and
the shooting locations.
As this is a developing situation and
an ongoing manhunt,
it's difficult to get exact
information coming out of Lewiston.
But however,
we are going to stick to sources aligning
with the information being
given by the Maine police.
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Now, here are those details from AP News.
Lewiston police said they were dealing
with an active shooter incident Wednesday
evening at Schemengees Bar and
Grill and at Sparetime Recreation,
a bowling alley about 4 miles away.
A number of parents and
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children were at Sparetime as part
of a children's bowling league.
Now, here is ten year old Zoe Levesky,
who was present at the bowling alley and
was also grazed by a bullet.
She recounted that moment
with her mom on CNN, and
she is in surprisingly and
fortunately good spirits.
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>> Speaker 2: She was grazed by
a bullet while we were running.
>> Speaker 2: I never thought I'd
grow up and get a bullet in my leg.
And it's just like, why do people do this?
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>> Speaker 2: And she's asking a good
question and of course, as I mentioned,
she's in good spirits in that video.
But there's no way to know how this
is gonna impact her living through
this traumatic incident, moving forward,
and for the rest of her life.
After the shooting, Lewiston police shared
images of a man walking into what appears
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to be the bowling alley holding
a high powered assault style rifle.
There he is, usually we would not
show images of mass shooters because
oftentimes mass shooters want to shroud
themselves in glory for the incident.
But because he has not yet been caught,
we think it's important to show his image.
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He hasn't been identified, but police are
calling a man by the name of Robert C Card
as the person of interest in this case.
Take a look.
>> Speaker 3: The investigation
into the person responsible for
this identified a vehicle located at
the Jebscott Boat landing in Lisbon.
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That person, through the registration
of that vehicle was identified that's
been stated earlier as a Robert Card.
Currently, there is an arrest warrant for
eight counts of murder for Mr. Card,
and the reason it's eight counts because
ten people have not yet been identified.
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As those people are identified, the counts
will probably go to the total of 18.
>> Speaker 2: Card has yet to be
apprehended, but is considered armed and
dangerous.
From CNN, Card is a certified
firearms instructor and
a member of the US Army Reserves.
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Law enforcement officials in Maine told
CNN, he had recently threatened to carry
out a shooting at a National Guard
facility in Saco, Maine, and
reported mental health issues, including
hearing voices, the officials said.
I want you to keep that in mind as I
reiterate that he was not only allowed to
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have access to a gun, he was allowed to
carry out firearm trainings after this
incident, after reporting that he had
inclinations to carry out a mass shooting.
Just keep that in mind as we continue on.
A US official also told the Associated
Press he had been taken by police for
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an evaluation after
military officials became
concerned that he was acting
erratically back in mid July.
Multiple businesses, schools and public
buildings were closed in Lewiston and
surrounding cities today, out of caution
as the search continues for Card.
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Maine's Governor Janet Mills also
spoke at a press conference to
give her condolences.
>> Speaker 4: I'm so
deeply sad, as is every one
of the 1.3 million people
of this beautiful state.
This city did not deserve this
terrible assault on its citizens,
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on its peace of mind,
[COUGH] On its sense of security.
No city does, no state, no people.
No words can truly or fully measure
the grief of many people today.
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Our small state of just 1.3
million people has long
been known as one of the safest
states in the nation.
This attack strikes at the very
heart of who we are and
the values we hold dear for
this precious place we call home.
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>> Speaker 2: Now, if you were wondering
about gun regulations in Maine,
they are very lax.
From AP News maine doesn't require
permits to carry guns, and
the state has a long standing
culture of gun ownership
that is tied to its traditions
of hunting and sport shooting.
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And Ben, we're gonna get into
the Republican reactions
to this mass shooting, among other mass
shootings, a little bit later in the show.
But first, I just wanna say that I think
the claim that it's too soon to talk about
the politics side of things is always a
ridiculous claim to make because political
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problems require political solutions,
in my opinion.
And the ease with which this man
was allowed to gain access to
a weapon is concerning.
And the fact that he had all of these
red flags, that what should have
alerted gun sellers and state
officials that this man was armed and
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dangerous and possibly going
to carry out a mass shooting.
The fact that none of those flags
were noticed or paid attention to or
no action was taken to prevent this
from happening, it's disturbing and
it's a story we as reporters have
to cover time and time again.
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>> Speaker 5: Yeah, it is really,
really incredible that despite
the enormous amount of
tragic loss of life over and
over again in this country,
we keep taking no significant action.
There was marginal gun restrictions
passed in the last Congress,
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but nothing that is gonna significantly
change an instance like this.
And as you said,
Maine has very lax gun laws and
yet Republicans are saying
we need more lax gun laws.
They're already saying it,
we're gonna be covering that in a moment.
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And it's just completely insane that
even in the face of the facts that fly
right in the face of their own arguments,
they keep making the same
arguments like they're robots.
Like they might be AI or something
that's programmed to kill us because
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they do not seem to have any interest in
anything that can reduce gun violence.
They think the answer to gun violence is
more gun violence, it's disgusting and
I don't know what the answer is,
but it's not what they're doing.
>> Speaker 2: And
we've seen very recently,
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gun violence become the number one cause
of death of children in this country.
And this is the same group of people who
always says that they're just trying to
protect the children when it comes to
legislating anti LGBTQ laws, making it
almost impossible for school children to
access books that have queer characters.
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In those cases, they're just
trying to protect the children.
But when we're actually needing to address
the leading cause of death of children in
this country,
we don't need to protect the kids anymore.
We need to protect the NRA,
we need to insulate gun owners,
we need to insulate gun manufacturers
from any sort of liability for
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the weapons that they market.
We can't address gun culture,
we need to celebrate it.
>> Speaker 5: Well, Ray,
I don't know if you know this, but
98% of children who
are the victims of gun violence,
it happened because right before they
read a book with a gay character.
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>> [LAUGH]
>> And so you do have to blame the books.
I mean, it's just the most insane,
these people are just ridiculous.
Their ability to focus on what affects
no lives in any significant way and
to ignore the most egregious things.
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It's a crime against humanity, really,
it's a crime against their own people,
our own people and I don't know, there's
obviously no talking sense into them.
Voting them out of power
is the only option.
>> Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
And just a little bit more about
the senseless gun violence that Americans
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experience.
Now, this mass shooting with a death
toll currently of 18, again,
that number could rise as
more information comes out.
It's still chaotic in the state of Maine,
in the city of Lewiston, as they continue
to try to get accurate information,
but the current death toll of 18.
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This rampage appears to be
the deadliest mass shooting of 2023 in
the United States.
It's also the deadliest mass
shooting since a gunman in May 2022
killed 19 students and
two teachers at a school in Uvalde, Texas.
From AP News, the shooting in
the state's second-largest city
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is the 36th mass killing in the United
States this year, 36 just this year,
according to a database maintained
by The Associated Press and
USA Today in partnership with
Northeastern University.
The database includes every mass killing
since 2006 from all weapons in which four
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or more people, excluding the offender,
were killed within a 24 hours time frame.
And as I said, obviously
the story is still developing and
more information will be coming
out over the next few days.
But reading that, that it's the largest
mass shooting since Uvalde,
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it just hit me pretty difficulty because
there was a moment after Uvalde where
everyone believed things
were gonna change this time.
There's no way they can turn a blind
eye to this horrific tragedy,
19 children brutally murdered,
the police stood outside for
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over an hour before they went in
to neutralize the perpetrator.
There were people on scene at the time,
police officers who could have used their
weapons, the supposed good guys with
the guns who didn't who didn't go in,
who waited over an hour before
they finally entered the scene,
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who didn't use their guns.
The supposed good guys with the guns
did not use their guns to protect these
children.
And what happened?
The state of Texas passed a mandate
that requires an armed police
officer stationed at every elementary
school, an unfunded mandate to do that.
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We got some small gun control at the
federal level that every expert says would
not have prevented that type of shooting.
And here we are, little over a year later,
deadliest shooting since then,
and really nothing has changed.
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And it's frustrating cuz you see
these parents who have to become
activists, right?
These parents who lose their children, and
then they dedicate their lives in the
pursuit of preventing other parents from
losing their children in these senseless,
shootings try to prevent people from
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losing their loved ones in these
senseless acts of violence.
And their pleas fall on deaf
ears because the voices, and
more importantly, the money of the NRA,
the gun lobby, speaks so
much more loudly to our elected officials.
Which is why and it's a topic we talk
about a lot here on TYT, money, and
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politics.
But it does come back to money and
politics,
the ability of these lobbies
to capture our politicians,
because there's no person in this
country who shouldn't feel moved, who
shouldn't feel an emotional reaction when
they hear the news of these shootings.
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And yet, instead of a meaningful
response from our elected officials,
who have the power, who have
the authority to do something about this,
all we get are thoughts and
prayers and some of the ridiculous stuff
we're about to cover in the next story.
But it just, it makes me feel sick.
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I said that, but I'll reiterate it,
it makes me feel sick.
>> Speaker 5: Uvalde is maybe the best
example because Texas basically is a gun.
It's a giant gun.
And the fact that the gun state
can't do anything to stop gun
violence within its own borders
just proves the absurdity of
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the argument of people that
are against gun regulations.
I've debated Republicans on this,
many debated, went back and
forth with Tommy Larin on this, and she,
in the wake of another mass shooting,
said, but the Second Amendment
doesn't say you have to register.
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And I'm like, yeah, it's one sentence
written hundreds of years ago,
you can still use your brain and
use common sense to evolve your opinion,
to add common sense things
to keep people safe.
You do it all the time, you adjust things
and opinions all the time on all issues
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that you are interested in changing
that aren't explicitly mentioned in
the Constitution, it's an absurd
excuse to keep a cowboy culture.
Shoot them up.
Woohoo.
Let children's lives be damned,
let people's lives be damned at a bowling
alley having a family night out,
it's disgusting.
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And they have blood on their hands, they
have blood on their hands if you fight
against common sense regulations because
especially to remind everybody yet again,
nobody's advocating for
taking away your right to bear arms.
Nobody's going against the core
of the Second Amendment,
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we are just saying a common sense
regulation that can keep people safe,
people with mental illness, take it away.
Red flag laws, be able to remove
guns from people who are currently
undergoing mental illness episodes so
that people are coming off as violent,
that they can be kept safe.
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That people around them can be kept
safe from potentially horrible episodes,
people with horrible records that
you shouldn't be able to get guns.
These are common sense, easy things and if
you still stick by your Second Amendment,
it's just insane.
Even though it's only one sentence,
to only care about half of that sentence,
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to only focus on the right to bear arms,
can't be infringed and
ignore the of a well
regulated militia part.
You ain't in a militia, so just shut
your mouth and open your heart a little.
>> Speaker 2: Right?
And I mean, in law school, studying
the interpretations of the Constitution,
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I always found originalism to
be one of the most absurd.
The idea that we need to now, in this
year of our lore, 2023, think about
what someone who had wooden teeth might
have thought about AR 15s is an absurdity.
But our Supreme Court is so
far right, so fascistic,
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that they're not even trying to
base their new gun interpretations,
their new Second Amendment
interpretations off of that.
Now they're saying it has
to be based in history.
They said you can't have a gun regulation
that isn't based in a piece of
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American history.
Pre Civil War justice Clarence Thomas,
people that's our Supreme Court,
which just goes to show how little
they care about protecting people.
How many pieces of legislation does
everybody think there were to protect
women against gun violence, pre Civil War?
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Very few, if any at all.
So now in order to make an argument
to keep guns out of the hands of
domestic abusers, you have to find
a piece of similar legislation
from the early 18 hundreds to
prove that it is based in history.
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This is a legal theory completely
concocted out of nowhere, mind you, and
it's going to massively impact our ability
to regulate public safety in this country,
it's already gone into effect in that way.
States and the NRA are already
lobbying to repeal laws that protect
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women against gun violence
from domestic abusers,
that attempt to take guns away from
people who have been found to have been,
by a preponderance of evidence when
it comes to restraining orders,
guilty of domestic
violence against a woman.
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And the response is always
ridiculous from right wingers,
is that we just need to arm the women,
then that's how we protect the women.
Despite the fact that women are
significantly more likely to die by their
domestic abusers if that person has a gun,
it's the number one indicator that
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someone will die,
will be murdered by their domestic abuser.
But now we have to look back through
history and find an example.
Pre 18 hundreds, I mean, it's fiction,
it's a fictional legal theory.
And it's something that they're gonna now
continue to use to prevent any legislation
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that's gonna come in the wake of this mass
shooting to try to protect children and
innocent people just trying to enjoy their
Wednesday afternoon from mass violence.
And the Republicans will say, we don't
talk about politics in the wake of a mass
shooting, but just pay attention.
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They don't talk about liberal politics,
but they are 100% signaling to the NRA and
their conservative base that we're gonna
fight to ensure that you don't have your
guns taken away.
I'll let you get the last word in on this.
>> Speaker 5: If Clarence Thomas, his
lack of self awareness is mind boggling.
If his standard is,
you need pre Civil War laws,
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I'm not sure if he's aware of the fact
that he wouldn't be on the Supreme Court
if this was pre Civil War America.
He would likely be a slave.
And so, I mean, open your eyes, man.
You're now living in a country that's so
free, you get to be on the highest
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court in the land and
be super corrupt in that position.
You have that right now, wake up.
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