Donald Trump's panic over the Epstein files has reached basically inception levels at this point because he's now, you can follow this, freaking out about how people were reporting that previous reporting the Epstein files had led the White House to freak out. So it's multiple [00:00:15] levels of freak out here. But let's talk about the first details that led the White House to freak out multiple times. So we know that there was a New York Times report. that exposed the behind the scenes scrambling that he and his cabinet have reportedly had. Where the [00:00:31] goal was to come up with something that they could release that kind of had to do with the Epstein files. So that it would look like they're doing something while at the same time making sure that nothing damaging came out about Donald Trump. And if that is your strategy, [00:00:47] that doesn't exactly look good because it's clear that first and foremost in your mind is not justice for the victims. It's defending the big guy. And so that report was reported on by Joe Scarborough. And while Joe Scarborough's show was still on, Donald Trump had already [00:01:03] posted this on True Social saying, Scarborough's ever shrinking low rated show, one of the most inaccurate detailers of truthful facts on television, is being crushed in the ratings. His serious case on Trump's derangement syndrome, often referred to as TDS, has made him a laughing [00:01:19] stock among those who know what is going on in in quotation marks, wonderful world of television. He is the weirdest person who has ever lived. Anyway, his show is being cut because his ratings are terrible. And Mike and Willie, who wants to be his father but doesn't have [00:01:34] the talent, are falling further and further into the tedious swamp. They all suffer from low ratings disease. It's weird, it's almost like he has disease on the mind. Weird how that works out. I don't know what the Mike and Willie stuff is. I don't know what any of this is really. Like most people, can't follow Donald Trump's deranged dementia train [00:01:53] of thought. What I do know is that their ratings might be down on Scarborough, but I know one person who was apparently watching them because he was live tweeting their show. And I think that the reason he's mad is less about their ratings and more about what they're discussing like the New York Times piece. So now let's jump into some of what was revealed in that [00:02:11] piece because there are some spicy elements that might get the internet buzzing today. So JD Vance had floated to colleagues an extraordinary PR gambit that the White House enlist Tucker Carlson back when they liked soccer Carlson, to interview Epstein's longtime girlfriend [00:02:27] and co-conspirator, Ghislaine Maxwell, in prison. It might help the president if Maxwell was willing to state that Trump had not been part of any wrongdoing with Epstein, and that might have helped them. This looks really bad. The idea that you are coordinating behind the scenes to get a media figure that you consider at that point sufficiently loyal, that they will [00:02:47] go and present as plausible. The obviously opportunistic comments of a sex predator in a vain attempt to make Donald Trump look like he's not involved in any of this, even though again, his name appears in Epsonian files a million times. So that's what they [00:03:03] were apparently trying to do. I don't know if they ever approached Tucker Carlson, if he would have agreed to do this, but that looks really bad for them. There's also this by the way. So Trump had apparently called Charlie Kirk and scolded him for providing a venue for young people to slam former Attorney General Pam Bondi. the larger Trump administration [00:03:21] for refusal to release the files. He apparently raged to his aides that he was very unhappy with Charlie Kirk. So that became not a problem for him not that much later after Charlie Kirk mysteriously died. I'm not saying anything, I'm just saying. But also, I do want to remind [00:03:40] everyone, this story makes Donald Trump look bad. I just want to remind everyone it also makes Charlie Kirk look bad because Charlie Kirk was willing to point out that the Epstein files were being covered up. That led to Donald Trump's rage, right? And uh then Charlie Kirk got that call, which we already knew from Kirk's point of view. Now we know it from Trump's. [00:03:59] And what did Charlie Kirk do? He backed off. He basically said, I'm just going to trust the White House and I'm not going to ask any more questions. That's what he did on one of the most important issues of the last year in the last months of his life. And I get it, look, the president yelling at you is probably scary or whatever, but he knew what the administration [00:04:17] was doing, and he backed off. He surrendered, he laid down for them, which is pretty sad. There's more in this Sharon, but I wanna get your take. This is some of the way that they tried to manage the PR side of this, so what do you make of it? I find it fascinating, even though none of this comes as surprise, right? I mean, we could tell the coordinated effort. [00:04:35] One of the other things, and maybe I shouldn't glean this from what you disclosed, but I'm gonna say that they couldn't find someone. of a Tucker Carlson to actually do it. Instead, it was that stupid audio released by Todd Blanch. And indeed, didn't she say it? She volunteered. [00:04:52] I never saw anything. It was great. And I find it fascinating. He was able to rise to power like this or whatever that nonsense she was talking, talking about Delaine Maxwell. So I find it fascinating to have this inside look. mean, look, we could tell based on what came [00:05:08] out that this is exactly the kind of coordination that was going on. But the details are pretty stunning. And for Charlie Kirk, who I guess we're allowed to say the truth about to be doing this, I don't give him that grace about how it's scary for a president to yell at you [00:05:25] because look, he was bold, he was brash, he made an entire career off of this movement. And now we've learned in this way, dishonestly, this is one more way, but dishonestly to these young people, he had so inspired. Yeah, no, utterly dishonest. So some more revelations, [00:05:45] uh Todd Blanch had wanted to have the grand jury testimonies released, again, so long as nothing damning was said in it. They don't generally do that, so that was a pretty desperate gambit. uh Then another option they talked about was having Justice Department lawyers question [00:06:01] Maxwell and publicly release the transcript, which is a version of what JD Vance had been pushing for. Blanch even offered to interview Maxwell himself. And just think about that. So first of all, do you think that if they had interviewed her and anything she'd said [00:06:18] had reflected poorly on Trump, do you think they still would have released it? And you might have something tickling in the back of your mind when I ask you that question. Because recall, Todd Blanch did interview her. Did they release it? I don't know, evidently [00:06:34] it was good enough information that they were willing to move her to a better facility or whatever. But does anybody think that they cared, any of them cared about the justice? You think Todd Blanch has spared a single second to think about the person that he was going to go give a softball interview to was a rapist. Literally a person that trafficked and herself sexually [00:06:56] assaulted young girls. Doesn't care, it doesn't mean anything to him to vote Christian though he might be. The only reason they want to talk to her, is to help Donald Trump because that is all he is, Todd Blanch's loyalty to Donald Trump. By the way, in a recent interview, [00:07:15] additional stuff floating around, a longtime Epstein assistant says that she set up phone calls between Epstein and Trump. That's Leslie Groff. I don't find that to be particularly shocking. We know that they personally hung out. I'm sure that they talked on the phone as well. Now she says the calls were infrequent and that was before Trump was president. And [00:07:34] she wasn't aware of anything that was happening, not just between Donald Trump and any of these kids, but Epstein as well. And a lot of people find that to be hard to believe considering how long she worked for him. I don't know, I can't say for sure exactly what happened or what the situation was. But the constant massages and everything, it strains credulity a little [00:07:57] bit. I can understand why people wouldn't necessarily buy that. So anyway, look, I hope- that with all of the major stories that do deserve attention, that people can get back on this story. Because we are no closer to justice than we were literally a year ago, and the American people still know [00:08:13] it, and I think it's worth being discussed. Final thoughts, Yeah, and look, for this latest person giving testimony, I believe she absolutely um knew a lot more. Because if not, if it was just a job and maybe you were keeping your head down, he's dead, dude. He's dead. You wouldn't [00:08:30] name any of the people you claimed I can't recall. don't know. mean, so that tells me something. You are married to this in a way that you don't want to be married to it. And so you don't want to go deeper and you're protecting power who's been probably helping you stay out of [00:08:47] the fray. It's disgusting and you're right. We don't know it. And for this to have gone on worldwide, this international disgusting child sex ring. A lot of people knew it and it's still being protected at the very top. Exactly.