the situation with the Correspondence Dinner was going on. There was a lot of concern that there was suspicious stuff about it and wasn't it convenient that once again somebody's coming for Donald Trump. So look, there's a lot of people throwing out a lot of either baseless or tenuous ties to various conspiracy theories. And I wanna turn now to Alex Jones, who is [00:00:20] America's expert on conspiracy theories to talk about this. I don't know this manifesto came from this guy. I mean, at this point, could be staged. But I mean, what does that mean? How was it staged? What was the plan to make Trump look like a victim? Why did Trump just [00:00:39] keep sitting there and they grab JD Vance and drag him off and then Trump just sits there? And Trump does look anticipatory right before it happens. When the magician is trying to show him the card and do all that, he's like, I don't know anymore. I just don't know. I [00:00:57] just know this. I am not going to come on air because it's popular and just say something at stage before I know it, I mean, you kind of did that right there. That's kind of what you did. You laid out some evidence, compelling evidence. I didn't know that Donald Trump did [00:01:14] a rat face. ah And I don't like the idea of Donald Trump looking anticipatory. Don't say that, please. I'm sorry. But anyway, there's a lot of weird stuff. Now that doesn't mean that it was staged. People often throw accusations of conspiracy without thinking about how much [00:01:33] would go into it. So did all the Secret Service know? Did the entire administration know? This administration leaks so much that just has so many potential holes in it. And a lot of people were like, Well, this guy's probably Israeli, right? Cuz he had that picture, which [00:01:49] I don't even know if it's been confirmed of him with a sweatshirt with the IDF symbol. But what's the theory? That Israel wants to take out Trump, who's fighting all their wars for them. And the way that they do it is they ship some dude from torrents across the country and have him bum rush a security checkpoint or whatever. I've seen the IDF when they want [00:02:08] to take people out. They're a little bit more sophisticated than that. So look, that doesn't mean that- It's weird to think that there was some suspicious stuff. It is a little bit suspicious and Donald Trump is definitely trying to use it for his own purposes. But in any event, let's get to a little bit more of the right wingers who have some suspicions. Let's [00:02:26] go to here to Ashley St. Clair. Last week, I told you guys that all of MAGA is paid and they coordinate their messaging in lockstep via group chats. And what do know, all of these people came to the conclusion. that after they saw what happened at the White House Correspondents [00:02:44] Dinner, their first thought was all, independently, Trump needs his ballroom. The statistical likelihood of this happening in a vacuum, if we are to stipulate that these people are not coordinated, the statistical likelihood of this happening that they all came to the same conclusion, [00:03:03] not probable, okay? I think it's also important to note that one of the main group chats in which they coordinate this messaging is literally called fight, fight, fight after the attempt on Trump's life in Butler. That's a pretty good point. That's a pretty good point. This stuff [00:03:24] about statistical significance, I don't think had anything to do with what she was saying. But anyway, but yeah, first of all, there's an alternative explanation, which is that some of them started to do it. Others saw that there was pickup and they desperately wanted the clicks in the retweets, so they started doing it too. But I even think that's it. I think she's right. I think it's coordinated. And that doesn't mean it's pre-coordinated. That doesn't [00:03:41] mean that that's why they did it or whatever. But it definitely was coordinated. And we will get to the ballroom and all of that. But Jackson, I'm just curious your thoughts about, did you immediately or do you now think that it was suspicious? Where do you come down on all that? Well, for me, if it wasn't some type of conspiracy like some false flag to [00:04:04] boost his- his ratings that he's so fond of. Then at worst or maybe at best, it was just an unbelievable uh demonstration of incompetence. If that was real, how does this guy just get [00:04:20] in the building? And that was part of what he commented on about how there was barely no security and it was really easy for him to get through. So no matter how you look at it- ah it reflects poorly on the White House's competence and their ability to do anything well at all. ah But outside of that, just think that Donald Trump is just endlessly hilarious. [00:04:42] It's sad cuz you're like, people keep trying to kill me. That's why we need my ballroom because those two things are aligned with each other. We need this big stupid ballroom. when really he's just trying to leave behind some type of legacy for himself. That's why [00:04:58] he's putting his name on our currency and trying to build that giant arc. So nobody's confused about that. But it's funny seeing Alex Jones say that, don't wanna spread falsehoods. That made you a millionaire many times over spreading falsehoods. And it also- uh ended [00:05:21] up being your undoing. yeah, mean, even if, I don't have enough evidence personally to sit here and say that was staged. It looks kind of suspicious, but again, if it wasn't staged, then wow, what a reflection of how much these people suck at everything. Yeah, [00:05:38] well, that is objectively true. Yeah, I think that if it was staged, they'd do like another photo shoot or something. It wouldn't be just Donald Trump like, what's happening now? And then like old man. gets weekend, burnied out of the room. They all look so bad. If it's [00:05:55] staged, you need to do another run through because you didn't do Yeah, Trump falling over. Yeah, it doesn't look good. And RFK Junior's being like, Cheryl, I can get another Cheryl. Even Miller picking up his pregnant wife. Yeah, it just doesn't. It's hoisting her in front of [00:06:11] him like, Yeah, I will briefly say, I come down to a different, I don't think it really was a failure of security. There was a security perimeter and he was stopped at it. And they took him out and nobody died. And they're right, and they didn't kill him. Yeah, I think and [00:06:31] also it's not a White House event. It wouldn't be at the ballroom anyway, even if the ballroom existed, it wouldn't be there. And what are you saying? The president can never again be anywhere that isn't ballroom. He doesn't even believe that. You think he's gonna stop showing [00:06:47] up at events at Mar-a-Lago? He's BSing you, One final thing before we move on to last bit. All the people in the media, they're like, why would somebody wanna do this? Why? We [00:07:02] gotta figure out why would someone wanna do this? First of all, don't do this. It's wrong, don't do it. But why would someone want? You can't come up with a potential explanation for why someone would want to do this. You remember when Donald Trump was putting out those memes of him in front of Trump 2024, Trump 2028, Trump 2032, Trump 2036. I'm going be president forever, [00:07:24] damn the Constitution. You remember when he did an actual coup? I'm just saying, you're not supposed to kill people. You're not supposed to do assassinations. You're also not supposed to do coups. You're also not supposed to sexually assault someone in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room. You're not supposed to do a lot of the stuff that Donald Trump has done without consequences. [00:07:42] Flouting the Constitution, destroying the checks and balances, you're not supposed to do all of that stuff. Now that does not justify political violence. But it's, I think, makes sense that someone would look at all that's happening and say, I guess there's no consequences for anything. You destroyed all the norms and you were very happy to do so. I guess the norms [00:08:00] are gone now. I guess we can do whatever we want. Don't do it. But I'm just saying, I don't think we get to be like, Why would a person be worried about Trump? Hmm.