I accepted to come to this meeting to have a sober and a mature conversation. I'm not in any way signing up to any discussion that is alarmist, I am here factual and I respect the science. And there is no science out there or no scenario out there that says [00:00:18] that the phase out of fossil fuel is what's going to achieve 1.5, 1.5 is my notes star. >> Speaker 2: Okay, you don't need to phase out fossil fuels to get to 1.5 degrees Celsius maximum warming globally. [00:00:36] For any random person to say that it would be a bad take, it shows that you don't understand. Or respect or don't care about the science and it might be fine for any random person to believe that. The issue is that when it's Sultan Al Jabar, who is now the President of Cop 28. And is responsible for this nationwide summit and focus that we're going to [00:00:54] have internationally on what nations can do to come together. And to try to get us to 1.5 degrees maximum of heating, it kinda sucks when that's the thing that he's going on a rant about. In response to a question about what this heating is going to do to women and [00:01:09] children. He lost it, it's not just that he's wrong, it's petulant, it's angry, it's entitled. That's what we're getting out of this guy, that video by the way, which has now been leaked was apparently recorded November 21. [00:01:25] So it's been a couple of weeks, he has responded to it being released. He didn't care that he said it, he didn't put out some sort of updated information the last couple of weeks. Only now that you know what he said and we're going to get to what he had to say. But I'm going to remind you this is the guy, who already was following up some bad news about Cop 28. [00:01:44] You might remember that it was revealed that the UAE was going to be using the talks to try to set up oil and gas deals. That was already making people wonder if there was any value whatsoever to this meeting. But I want to give you a little bit more of what he has to say and [00:02:00] how defensive he gets over even light questioning. >> Speaker 1: A face down and a face out of fossil fuel in my view, is inevitable, it is essential, but we need to be real serious and pragmatic about it. [00:02:18] >> Speaker 3: But the real serious and pragmatic doesn't take into account that we are in. I mean, I respect that you've done a lot of hard work preparing for this cop and that you've listened to the science. The science is very acute now, we don't have any time, they say six or seven years. [00:02:35] We got to peak by 2025, latest in fossil fuel, fossil fuel and your company is investing in a lot more new fossil fuel and that's going to hurt women. >> Speaker 1: Ma'am, you've just accused me of something that is not correct, [00:02:51] I'm sorry, I don't take it, now, I ask you to prove to me. >> Speaker 3: I read that your company is investing in a lot more fossil fuel in the future. >> Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am, you're reading your own media, which is biased and wrong. I am telling you, I am the man in charge and it is wrong, ma'am, [00:03:06] you need to listen to me, please, please for once. >> Speaker 3: I'm very pleased to hear it. >> Speaker 1: It is wrong, you guys write a lie and you believe it. >> Speaker 2: What she's referencing there is that in addition to being the president of Cop 20. He's also the chief executive of the United Arab Emirates state oil [00:03:23] company ADNOC. So that just by its very nature, seems like a big thumb in the eye of everyone who doesn't want the world to be set on fire. But the idea that they are investing in further fossil fuel exploitation he lost his mind, said that it's effectively fake news. That's what he's saying, and he did, at least in all of that, [00:03:43] say at some point phase out fossil fuels. But not in six years, not along the timeline that scientists say is necessary. We need to do it in a serious, Pragmatic way, all of you are children who are freaking out right now. But we who are getting rich off of fossil fuels, we are the only ones who could be [00:04:00] serious and responsible about this, you feel a little bit better, Francesca? >> Speaker 4: Yeah, once they get their World Cup and once they create their, I don't know, high tech, AI driven city in the middle of nowhere. Whatever UAE wants to know, [00:04:17] once they pollute to the point of they have so much wealth. They can't even leave it to their immediate family, then we'll transition away from fossil fuels. I mean, in this, honestly, first of all, let's just point out the fact [00:04:33] that on a panel about how climate impacts women with three women there. He is interrupting a woman and just talking over her, not a great look dude. But then on top of that, look, this is the same stuff that, sadly, [00:04:49] our president says, right? This is what Joe Biden says, which is, yeah, we need to transition away from fossil fuels later, but also we need fossil fuels. And its again, there is no way to peace, peace is the way, [00:05:05] there is no way to stop climate change except for ending fossil fuel consumption. We have to start it now, there is no we're going to burn a certain amount and then we're going to stop it. No, that's not and remember the idea, John, of peak oil? [00:05:20] Yeah, well, when oil, it's so scarce and inevitably, we're going to have to transition. Nope, not the case, especially when oil barons can just hold on to the oil, drive up the price, screw all of our economies in the meantime. And then you got Joe Biden sort of waiting hand and foot or hand and mouth disease, [00:05:39] whatever it is, on Saudi Arabia to please, please lower the price of oil. My God, can we move away from fossil fuels for a million reasons, but douchebags like, this is one of them? >> Speaker 2: Yeah, we can, they can't, for some reason, I can't figure out why they would want to keep doing what they're doing. [00:05:57] It's like, you have a horrible serial killer who's killing people left and right, and you ask him, like, could you stop the killing? He's like, well, let's be serious and pragmatic, we'll eventually stop killing, but can I kill a few more people? Because I really like killing people, he goes on to say, [00:06:15] stop the pointing of fingers, stop it. You can't just say you're responsible, no, the oil companies are way more responsible than all of us together, that is not up for debate, okay? And they've already made billions for literally decades. [00:06:32] At what point can they just stop making more billions over killing so many people every single year and rocketing us towards an unlivable future. [MUSIC]