There was a big protest outside of the DNC yesterday in DC, calling for a ceasefire. And exactly what the nature of that protest was really depends on who you talk to. Because there's a lot of Republicans, a lot of Democrats, members of the media [00:00:15] that are working overtime to convince you that this group of protesters fighting for a ceasefire between Hamas and Palestine were violent, that they were out of control, that they were trying to break into a building, and they are not going to allow a complete lack of evidence of any of that to get in their way. [00:00:33] And I'm gonna give you an example of this. But there is so much out there, here's a little bit of Fox and Friends. >> Speaker 2: They say that they just showed up peacefully linked arms in front of the entrance to the DNC and that the police just started to attack them. [00:00:48] As you can see from the video and from Congressman Brad Sherman, a Democrat, who says that the protesters attacked the police and pepper sprayed them, even. So, there's two sides to this story, but the video, I think, tells the facts. [00:01:06] >> Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the video tells the facts, too. Are you on Mushrooms? They say they just locked arms and got attacked, but others say they pepper sprayed. The video you are literally talking over shows them locking arms and [00:01:21] being attacked by the cops, or at least roughed up by the cops. It does not show, and I watched that video so many times, any violence from a protester towards a member of the police. It shows people engaging in, yes, perhaps illegal civil disobedience, [00:01:37] but the fact that it is disobedient or that it is illegal does not by its very nature make it violent. And you just playing video that doesn't show what you're saying over and over again is never going to make it violent. We've got a lot more but I can see how worked up you are, Mondo, [00:01:55] what do you think? >> Speaker 3: Well, John, how are you gonna say and show a video proving exactly you're wrong and just do it with a straight face? Also, those police officers are attacking. And let me explain. I've been arrested more than 56 times for protesting, right? [00:02:10] Some of them protesting. [LAUGH] But what police officers know is once you lock arm and then they start rocking back and forth, they're inflicting some serious pains on people joints, especially those who are smaller or in the middle. You have all this force of going back and forth, and [00:02:27] you see the officers doing it, not being synced. You're creating some serious pressure on both sides of those arms, trying to break the links of those chains. That is absolutely some type of form of violence. Yes, civil disobedience is, I guess the world call it, illegal, but it has a rich history in this country. [00:02:46] We were being the Tea Party, not the one that we were just talking about, but the Tea Party that got us free from Europe was civil disobedience. So it is absolutely disgusting when we turn people in this conversation into what they're doing with this video and what they were saying. [00:03:03] And for Democrats to keep missing the writing on the wall, one about the ceasefire, but also about what people feel about this, is gonna be the end of them for next year. That red wave they were looking for in 2022 will drown them in 2024. [00:03:21] >> Speaker 1: Another thing to worry about. But, yeah, everybody watching this, you saw the video. We can play it again if you want. We've got it queued up. It doesn't show what they're saying. He's literally talking over it. And the thing that, God, it just makes my blood boil, is I know there are so [00:03:36] many people watching the original broadcast of that, like, yeah, that's them being violent. Look at them roughing up those cops. Look at that. And, by the way, all of those Republicans watching that are like, yeah, it's bad to rough up cops, it's bad to attack cops. [00:03:52] They didn't care at all on January 6th, but all of a sudden the non-roughing up of the cops is the worst thing you could possibly do. So, look, Fox and Friends is spreading misinformation, but there's a lot of people working on that side. Congressman Brad Sherman, a Democrat, says, was just evacuated from the DNC after pro-terrorist, anti-Israel protesters grew violent, [00:04:10] pepper-spraying police officers and attempting to break into the building. There's no evidence of pepper-spraying, no evidence of them breaking the building. They were blocking the exits, which you're not supposed to do, that is true, that does not mean that they were breaking in. Thankful to the police officers who stopped them and for helping me and [00:04:27] my colleagues get out safely. If they had actually been trying to break down the doors and assault congresspeople, I feel safe in saying we would be against that since we demonstrated that in the wake of January 6th. It doesn't show that, though. And it's a bipartisan thing. [00:04:42] You got Marco Rubio saying, all US House buildings lock down while pro-Hamas rioters trying to storm the offices of the Democratic National Committee. The US Capitol Police are saying that six were treated for injuries ranging from minor cuts to being pepper-sprayed to being punched. Look, I cannot say that in that big scrum that nobody threw a punch. [00:05:02] But it clearly, all of the video evidence shows that whatever violence there was, the overwhelming majority of it was police officers trying to break up the protest. And the only evidence so far, and you can see in this picture that the Justice Democrats put out, of pepper spraying is from the police. [00:05:19] And I have a crazy theory. Maybe I'm a kook, let me know if you think I am, I think they pepper-sprayed some people and some of it wafted back over them and then all of a sudden, we got pepper-sprayed, too. You guys are the ones with the pepper spray. [00:05:35] Maybe look in the mirror. >> Speaker 3: Yeah, John, I think also people are forgetting that pepper spray does not just stay where you point it at. It's in the air, wind is blowing, everybody was affected by it. This is absolutely ludicrous. What people don't understand is when we do civil disobedience, there's plenty [00:05:53] of steps, plenty of protesters, legal protesters, legal observers, and the first thing you were taught is not to be violent with the police officers. It goes against the entire purpose of standing up for the ceasefire that they're calling for. So this is baloney, this is weak from the Democrats that are siding with this, but [00:06:13] what do we expect? 22 of these people actually voted to censure Racheed to leave, right? So I'm not surprised at all that we're getting this from some of her colleagues. But it is telling that Republicans go down on lies for their followers, for [00:06:29] their supporters, and Democrats can't even tell the truth about theirs. >> Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're 100% right. I would just like a little bit of truth to be told about that. I mean, there's people trying. Dave Weigel, journalist, was there. He put up video, he's trying, against all odds, [00:06:46] to get people to accept what actually happened there. Said it was a very weird night, many people sending me incorrect claims from people who weren't at the protest to refute the photos and videos I took at the protest. He was getting tweets from people saying, yeah, you think you know what happened there? Well, I have first hand accounts. [00:07:02] He's a first hand account, his hands were there. That's what it means. And I just wanna briefly point out, being for a ceasefire does not mean that you're a pro-terrorist or pro-Hamas. That's not actually how it works. It also doesn't mean that you're anti-Israel. [00:07:17] And as I say, I've said so many times, and I'm going to keep saying it, when somebody uses the term pro or anti an entire country, they think you are an idiot. They think you are a dumb donkey that they can manipulate into believing their [00:07:33] propaganda by implying that you having a view on a military tactic or a political strategy means that you are for or against an entire country, a nation, a people, a religion. That is not how it works. Unless the people saying that believe that Israel is one thing and [00:07:49] all Israelis are one thing. And they all believe the exact same thing and no dissent is allowed because they're not people, they're robots. That is an incredibly offensive thing to think. And it's just as dumb now as it was back in 2003 when they were telling us that if you were against the invasion of Iraq, you were anti-America. [00:08:04] That is not how it works. It's propaganda. Don't get affected by it. >> Speaker 3: That's powerful, John. It's powerful and this is why I still eat French fries and not freedom fries. >> Speaker 1: Yes, 100%. By the way, I want to read a statement from Eva Borgwart, If Not Now National spokesperson, as they were involved in the protest saying, [00:08:24] as protesters engaged in a moral act of nonviolent civil disobedience outside of the building, police charged to protesters and attacked them without giving any warning or order to disperse. The police pepper sprayed us, pulled them by the hair, and thrown them down the stairs. That is actually on the extended video, [00:08:40] resulting in over 90 injuries to protesters. Goes on to say, we are horrified to see elected officials like Brad Sherman, Marco Rubio, and Speaker Mike Johnson spread misinformation and accuse Jewish activists of being antisemitic, pro-Hamas, especially since many of our members are grieving Israeli loved ones who were killed on October 7th. [00:08:57] It is offensive, hurtful and dangerous. These leaders should apologize and retract their dangerous and hurtful statements. I do not expect that that is going to happen. But while we wait, I suppose, you can go to ceasefiretoday.com for a variety of different ways that you can have your voice be heard on this topic. [00:09:16] These protests are certainly a way, there's probably protests near you, feel free to participate in them, but there's other ways as well. Mondale, they just lie. >> Speaker 3: And what happens, John, in those lies is we're gonna eliminate, we're gonna otherize those 90 people who are actually injured, right? [00:09:34] That will never be mainstream, that would not be the conversation. And also there should have been warnings. You don't just walk up to people and grab people and snatch them by hair. All of this is violent. And I bet you there are videos to show and support this. The problem with this is this country does not care about facts or [00:09:51] what you can support, it goes by what people are feeling at this moment. And here's a tragedy that no one is talking about. There are so many people, these were people who are Israelis, Jewish people out here protesting and calling for a ceasefire. [00:10:09] And they were being attacked by police officers and also being said they are pro-Hamas, just as you just said. This idea that you can't exist in a different space, you have to support Benjamin Netanyahu's government, who the people of Israel were already pissed off at anyway and about to do away with before October 7th. [00:10:26] Now, if you criticize the same guy, the same government, BB's government, then you have a problem, you are anti-Semitic. And that is not fair to Israelis. One, those on how they feel differently than BB's government, and two, those who are, like you said, diverse in thinking about all of the politics of this [00:10:46] government in general, man. And I think the biggest part about this is America sitting silent. The president of the United States refusing to say ceasefire is necessary as we see thousands and thousands of people. [00:11:03] It takes 45 minutes, not me and my stumbling Arabic language, it takes 45 minutes for a well spoken Arabic person to say every child's name that died before their first birthday. That's how many kids have died. [00:11:18] It would take 45 minutes to sit and read those names. That's how many kids under the age of one have died. And it is ridiculous that we can't even say that it's time out. We need a timeout, a humanity timeout to address what's happening in Gaza right now. >> Speaker 1: That's a great point. [00:11:34] And because things aren't changing, is it gonna be 46 minutes in a couple of days, 47 minutes, 48 minutes? The clock is ticking. [MUSIC]