Think about who's moderating this debate. This should be Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, and Elon Musk. We'd have ten times the viewership asking questions that GOP primary voters actually care about and bring in more people into our party. You think the Democrats, and we've got Kristen welfare here. [00:00:15] >> [APPLAUSE] >> Do you think the Democrats would actually hire Greg Gutfeld to host a Democratic debate? >> Speaker 2: Last night was the third Republican primary debate, and that was just a small taste of Vivek Ramaswamy, who came out the gate. [00:00:30] If you were watching super aggressive last night. Now there's only 67 days left until the Iowa caucus and five of the candidates participated in the debate. Trump, of course, didn't go. He's still protesting them. But what he did do was hold a rally nearby. [00:00:48] DeSantis and Chris Christie attacked him for that. >> Speaker 3: He owes it to you to be on this stage and explain why he should get another chance. He should explain why he didn't have Mexico pay for the border wall. He should explain why he racked up so much debt. [00:01:05] He should explain why he didn't drain the swamp. And he said Republicans were gonna get tired of winning. Well, we saw last night, I'm sick of Republicans losing. >> Speaker 4: I'll say this about Donald Trump. Anybody who's gonna be spending the next year and a half of their life focusing on keeping themselves out of jail in courtrooms cannot lead this party or [00:01:23] this country. It needs to be said plainly. >> Speaker 2: It's funny that he said he's sick of Republicans losing. And we're gonna get into in a second why it's ridiculous considering they're doubling and tripling down on the very things that are making the Republicans lose. [00:01:39] But, Jackson, I understand why Trump isn't going to these debates, right? I understand why they need to attack him for it. But at the same time, he's almost in every way possible already assured that he's going to be the candidate. [00:01:54] Why bother giving these other people the legitimacy, right? Giving DeSantis, giving Chris Christie, who are not gonna be the candidate. Let's just be honest. They're not gonna be the candidate in this upcoming election, giving them the legitimacy. And I'm not saying that I want Trump to be the candidate. [00:02:12] >> Yeah. >> But if we're looking at this objectively, that's what's gonna happen [LAUGH]. >> I was chuckling before you said that. Because it's, Donald Trump's making the pragmatic decision. Doesn't really matter if he shows up to the debates, but [00:02:27] he's gonna show up to the trials that he doesn't have to be at and step outside and run his mouth about the judges and the prosecutors when he could. Just so Donald Trump picks and chooses, he accidentally acts practically from time to time. I think I saw some footage of him at one of his rallies he just had, and [00:02:45] it was like, they want me at the debates. But I'm at a rally right now and there's front of 10,000 people, and that's a lot harder than it is to show up to a debate. He just started congratulating himself. But you're right. I mean, it's a done deal for him in the Republican primary. [00:03:03] And in fact, his polling continues to rise in the general and in the primary. Right now, polling in the primary is more important. But I mean, it's over. It's been over. >> Speaker 2: And it's funny because if you look at the more head to head, [00:03:19] Trump versus Biden versus, let's say, Nikki Haley versus Biden. Or any Republican who's still in the race who hasn't dropped out, as we've seen some of them do already, versus Biden, they poll a lot better than Donald Trump. [00:03:34] But this just goes to show the total capture that Donald Trump has of the Republican Party. And I've talked about this time and time again, but I just can't help but think of ahead of the 2020 election at the RNC, at their convention. [00:03:51] What were they saying, right, that their entire platform is gonna be whatever Trump says it is? That's usually when the Republican Party would announce the main policy points they want to stick to in the upcoming election, in the upcoming years, what they're advocating for. [00:04:06] But they didn't. They just said whatever Trump says goes. >> Speaker 2: And it's been that way right? It's continued to be that way for the party, and it's really gonna harm them because let's say Nikki Haley runs against Biden, she beats him handedly, clearly front runner against Joe Biden. [00:04:25] Not that I would want that to happen. I want to be clear. But just looking at this electorally, Trump, it's a lot closer of a race, but they can't go against him because of the stranglehold he has on the party. >> Speaker 5: And I think what's most important about that, and you kind of [00:04:42] setting up a scenario where Biden will be going against someone like Nikki Haley, is we're still a year out from the election. But the closer we get to the election, the more people pay attention and the more people start to really weigh things out. And Donald Trump is just in a terrible position. [00:05:00] He just is. He's already been found liable of fraud and he can't shut his mouth and he can't stop making things worse for himself. So whatever happens with this civil case is gonna continue to drive him out of his mind. 91 federal charges, he's not gonna beat all of them. [00:05:16] The list goes on and on. Nikki Haley has none of that to worry about. You know what I'm saying? There's none of this stuff that's up in the air, like, maybe she'll be in prison and people, again, aren't gonna have to actually consider these things. Nikki Haley could put together a competent campaign. [00:05:32] Donald Trump, look at his lawyer and attorney situation. Nobody wants to work with him on top of the fact that he doesn't pay people anyway. So when it's time to put together a general election campaign, the polls can say what they say now. But if everyone who works on his campaign sucks, [00:05:49] which is what it's looking like, it'll be another story. So, yeah, Nikki Haley would absolutely be a better bet. But Trump took over the party, so it's over. [MUSIC]