Nov 13, 2023
Mom Accused Of Killing Her Biracial Kids, CPS Warned For Years
- 7 minutes
There's a mom accused of killing her
biracial sons, CPS warned prior.
Listen at this, 32 year old Tiffany Lucas,
a Kentucky mother,
has been held in custody on charges of
fatally shooting her two young sons
inside their home on Wednesday,
November the eigth.
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Police arrested the Shepherdsville
woman after a neighbor discovered
the child in a bedroom inside their
suburban Louisville home, jeez.
The Mayo neighbor said after he saw the
mother collapse on a lawn chair outside
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the home, he ran into the house
because he felt something was off.
Something was off for sure.
Emergency medical personnel rushed
the boys to Norton Children's Hospital in
Louisville, but both later died
at the hospital while in surgery.
The white mother will be charged with
the murders of her two biracial children,
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nine year old Jaden and
six year old Maurice.
It was just a week earlier, per her
Facebook post, the mother had taken her
two sons out for Halloween and
the family embraced a Star wars theme.
Listen, let me tell y'all something
real quick before we get,
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there's more to come to with
the background on the story.
But Jackson,
this is why I'm trying to tell people
what you see on Facebook ain't real life.
This idea that we can judge people's
mental health and what's going on
in houses is always a facade and
it's the problem with social media.
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People automatically assume because
people are doing things for
clicks and likes and smiling on a camera,
that ain't the case man.
And this is absolutely
the worst case scenario.
What are your thoughts man?
>> Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think that's
a really good point to bring up because I
think one of the things that's
happened with social media,
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especially over the last
fifteenish years or so.
It has provided a lot of pros, but
we didn't really know how it was gonna
explode so quickly and just now we're
able to see the effects of that.
So not only can you not really tell what
people are going through, but younger
generations are legitimately living their
lives through the social media experience.
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So I think that there
needs to be a lot of,
at least education surrounding the fact
that, hey, you kind of got to go outside
and get a little more to life
socialization skills and what have you.
But it is important to know just cuz
people look happy on social media doesn't
necessarily mean that they are.
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So if you got friends and family who
you don't check in with that often,
but they seem happy, go ahead and
give them a call cuz they may need
to hear from you more than you know.
>> Speaker 1: Indeed, man,
I mean, we forget that this idea,
this experiment called humanity and
human requires us to be in social,
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real social contact with people,
not just social media.
And speaking of social media,
according to the mother's friend,
upon learning about the murders,
Talia Crutcher,
Lucas' friend expressed shock and
disgust on social media.
She wrote extensively about how the
heinous act made her sick to her stomach,
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revealing that she had been
with Lucas just days before.
And that's according to
the Atlanta Black Star.
This is what her post said.
God, I can only imagine the hell
you've been putting your babies
through all these years and
they still love you!
To know that you killed them even
though they loved you so much.
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She had to be hearing voices or
some type of mental illness because
this is not the Tiffany I know.
They may look like they had a good life,
but
clearly there were demons all throughout.
Again, we're not doctors and we shouldn't
play doctors as soon as something happen.
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Blaming every crime in this country,
gun crime or something, well,
this is a gun crime, unfortunately,
the worst kind on mental health issues.
We are not here to diagnose her.
And if you were with her just a few
days earlier, you didn't see signs of,
you've never said you saw signs of
anything pertaining to mental health.
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So how is that the answer right now?
To continue in this story with the article
from Atlanta Black Star, we also see,
according to Bullitt County
Chief Deputy Colonel Alex Payne,
Lucas was a single mother raising
the boys without paternal suppoRt.
Payne also believed there was a demon
somewhere but didn't know what kind.
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Whether you think it's mental illness,
just pure evil, a combination of both,
it could be substance abuse,
any combination thereof.
Pick your poison.
None of it's good.
The results is horrific and this is,
of course, according to Payne.
He also noted that there were no
other parents could be contacted
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about the deaths.
The father of one of
the victims is deceased.
The father of the other victim is unknown.
Whereabouts are unknown.
Other family members, we got hold of and
made notification, pain explained.
Now, this is sad because Jaden had
an older brother, and his older brother,
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Darrell Howard, told WLKY, he remembers
his last time with the children.
We just played a card game,
it was as simple as that.
And we had the best time,
the best time ever, Howard recalled.
Though he shared a father only with Jaden,
their dad died in 2019.
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Howard was also a big brother figure to
young Maurice, whose nickname was Peanut.
Howard told WLKY,
he wished Lucas had reached out
to him before taking their lives.
We wanted them,
we would have taken them with open arms.
We love them so much, he said in
an interview, noting the mother had seen
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child protective authorities, called
on her multiple times over the years.
There's one red flag.
I should have did more if it came to
me snatching the boys out of the house.
I should have and I will hold that on
my back for the rest of my life for
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both of them boys,
the bereaved brother said.
And that, of course,
is according to Atlanta Black Star.
Jackson, I just wanna bring you back in
here and this is what I'm talking about.
We go on Facebook and
we click like on pictures and
we don't really dig into
what's really going on.
Why was CPS called multiple
times to this household and
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then ignored these red flags popping up?
And then the outcome is these two boys
are shot, rushed to the hospital and
die in surgery at the hand
of their own mother?
>> Speaker 2: Well, I think that any time
tragic and unfortunate instances like this
come up, it really gives us an opportunity
to look at the importance of oversight.
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Because at the end of the day,
any government organization or
any group of people,
you can get lazy, you can get lackluster,
you can just go through the, emotions.
The fact that CPS was called multiple
times and nothing really happened from it
is a good indication that things weren't
really looked into very heavily.
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And at the end of the day,
CPS is a federal program, so
there's a lot of bureaucracy so
there's no real quick fixes.
But again, this is why it's important
to make sure that we're on top of these
agencies, otherwise
they're not gonna work.
And if they start to not work,
then that's always a good argument for
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people who wanna deregulate and
cut taxes on important programs like this.
Be like, see it doesn't work,
look at how this happens.
So first and foremost,
we have to make sure that our
government actually does its job.
But secondly, again, whoever was
ahead of this should be replaced.
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Because we got two dead children on our
hands now because things weren't looked
into how they should have been.
>> Speaker 1: Yeah, and speaking of things
not being looked in how they should have
been, it's unclear however if CPS ever
took actions on the family concerns.
Per WLKY on Thursday, Lucas actually faced
a judge who set her bun at $2 million,
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where with her hands folded across
her chest, she said nothing and
showed no emotion.
This is not a sign of someone who was
healthy, regardless of what was going on.
And I think this is what we're talking
about as it pertains to needing to be in
community with people beyond social media.
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And thinking that you reached out to
someone or you had a conversation with
them just because you said
something on a post on Facebook.
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