Spare me the BS about how oh, you have to support Israel or else you're an anti-Semite. No, I disagree, I do not comply. I do not support Israel. As you know, I'm a Catholic, I'm a Catholic, and Catholics do not embrace Zionism, just so you know. So is are all Catholics anti-Semites according to you? [00:00:17] As I said, anti-Semitic anti-Zionism by denying the right of the Jews to have their own state, while not saying the same for any other peoples, that is a double standard. Hypocrisy and anti-Semitism. So, just to be clear, are Catholics anti-Semites? [00:00:34] Kerry, excuse me, I'm going to interrupt. I mean, I think you should let her ask the question, and I think the the question should be answered. But, you know, it's kind of difficult to sell the American people on the notion [00:00:51] that your lack of support for a political ideology makes you anti-Semitic. Because Zionism is a political ideology. Being Jewish Judaism that is a religion. [00:01:08] Jewish people share an ethnicity like hating people because they're Jewish makes you an anti-Semite. Disagreeing with the political ideology of Zionism is something entirely different. [00:01:23] Now, with that said, that was Catholic conservative activist and former Miss California Carrie Prejean bowler. Now, Carrie Prejean sounds familiar to you, and you're a longtime viewer of tight. Yes, it's that Carrie Prejean. She's the one who was asked a question during one of these pageants, [00:01:41] and it was kind of disastrous. Her answer was disastrous. But you know what? All is forgiven because the way she handled this very first meeting for the Justice Department's Religious Liberty Commission was incredible. So, as the group held its first public hearing about antisemitism [00:01:59] on college campuses. Bowler decided to press on about the press, on the other members, basically about, you know, the notion of rejecting anti-Semitism and rejecting Zionism and how that allegedly makes you anti-Semitic. [00:02:15] Now, she says, I'm Catholic. Catholics don't believe in Zionism or Zionist ideology. So does that make me anti-Semitic? And the answer she got were essentially yes. So Donald Trump established this commission last year and tasked [00:02:32] its members with drafting a report with recommendations about how to promote religious liberty. And the chairman of this group is Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, who should have probably been ousted because of corruption but never was. [00:02:47] And then you also have the vice chair, who happens to be Doctor Ben Carson. He's usually sleeping most of the time, so you're not going to see too much, participation. I'm just kidding. He does seem like a sleepy guy, but the first panel of speakers on Monday featured the following individuals. [00:03:03] Former UCLA law student Yitzi Frankl, who actually sued the university over its handling of the 2024 pro-peace, pro-Palestinian encampments. There's also Yeshiva University president Ari Berman, Harvard alum. [00:03:20] My favorite Shabbos kestenbaum stick around for what he had to say during this hearing, because it's just as disgusting as you would expect. And then you also have former Auburn basketball coach Bruce Pearl. Okay, so Carrie Prejean, Boller has been very vocal in her criticism of Israel, [00:03:39] and she argued that the panelists had defined antisemitism too broadly, which obviously, I agree with. I don't think that, being against Zionism means that you hate Jewish people. It means that you don't agree with the Zionist project. And honestly, at this point, Anyone who does I think is super suspect [00:03:56] considering what Zionism has carried out in the Middle East. But nonetheless, to be fair, bowler isn't entirely unproblematic. You know, she argued during the discussion that she's never heard, Candace Owens say anything that could be considered anti-Semitic. [00:04:14] I disagree with that. There are definitely things she has said that I disagree with. And I do think, can be considered anti-Semitic. Now, with that in mind, though, things really started to get contentious on this panel when she read out a quote from an anti-Zionist [00:04:32] rabbi believe it or not, they exist. Lots of them do. So let's take a look at how that interaction went. Rabbi Shapiro, he's based in New York. He I invited him here today, but he's not here today. He says, and I would love your opinion on this. American Jews are increasingly treated as less fully American. [00:04:49] Our loyalty question, our belonging made conditional because Zionist ideology falsely claims Israel is the nation state of Jews everywhere, and that every Jew is tied to it. He says this framing is antisemitic at its core. It strips us of our identity as Americans, [00:05:05] recasts us as foreigners in our own country and arms anti-Semites with accusations of divided loyalties and collective guilt for actions we neither chose nor control. No other foreign country does this. No sovereign state claims to politically represent an entire worldwide group [00:05:21] defined by religion or heritage, and bind its members to its deeds. Yet Jews alone bear this unique, unjust burden. That dangerous lie must be rejected openly and firmly. The remedy is clear civic education that teaches unconditional American belonging [00:05:37] through citizenship alone, not ethnicity, heritage, or any fabricated foreign tie. We are Americans, full stop, and we reject any doctrine that treats us otherwise. Okay, can I just can I just ask a question [00:05:52] to one of the top Zionists in the country? Right. Barry Weiss Barry Weiss literally built a career off of anti wokeism and baked into that. Was this flat out rejection of the BLM [00:06:09] style awareness of how the black community is treated in this country. It's interesting because she'll rail against that. However, when it comes to the precious feelings of Zionists in America, [00:06:24] you're not allowed to be critical of them. You're not allowed to challenge their beliefs or their ideology, because doing so makes them feel like they don't belong. I don't really care if they feel like they don't belong because Americans are challenging their ideology. [00:06:40] That's what America is supposed to be about. And I'm going to be completely honest with you guys. I'm getting kind of sick of hearing about how hurt and offended privileged Americans are because their Zionism is being challenged as they provide cover for [00:06:59] the people who are actual victims here. You know, all those kids, all those women, all those elderly people in Gaza, in the West Bank who have either been slaughtered, have had their entire families wiped out, had their homes stolen from them, had their land taken from them, had their homes bombed. [00:07:16] So when you come at us to talk about your feelings, it makes me go crazy, okay. Because it's so narcissistic, it's so selfish, and it's so unbelievably unself aware. [00:07:33] It drives me crazy. Okay, but anyway, bowler then asks the panelists if that statement was anti-Semitic. And here's what they said. What I'll say is that Natan Sharansky says there's three things that you shouldn't do with Israel. You or shouldn't delegitimize it. You shouldn't demonize it. [00:07:50] You shouldn't apply a double standard. You can abide by those three things. You're not anti-Semitic. So by not being a Zionist, does that make you an anti-Semite? I don't think you need to be a Zionist to support a country that defends itself and is free and religious in a hostile neighborhood. [00:08:08] - So is anti-Zionism. - Antisemitism? Yes, it is. - It is. - Yes. Undoubtedly. Anti-zionism is anti-Semitism. And undoubtedly. And one does not have to support the specific policies [00:08:26] of the government of Israel, but to not support the right of Israel to exist, which is what Anti-zionists do, while not taking that same stand to the 28 Muslim countries and 13 Christian countries in this world is a double standard, is hypocrisy, [00:08:41] and is absolutely anti-Semitism. As long as Israel does not believe Palestinians have the right to exist in their own land, their own country, as long as they deny the Palestinian people [00:08:58] their own country and their own agency. I don't care about the existence of Israel. I don't believe Israel has the right to exist. I think Israel deserves the same, same exact treatment that they're putting out into the world. [00:09:13] So as long as they deny Palestinians their right to exist, I am not going to sit here and say, oh yeah, no, no, I totally believe in Israel's right to I don't care. I don't care more than anything whether it exists or not. More than anything, I want U.S. Support for Israel to be pulled. [00:09:31] Now, of course, the clowns on that panel will argue that I'm an anti-Semite because I don't believe that Israel is defending itself. I believe Israel is carrying out genocide. I believe that they are carrying out an expansionist Project for Empire, [00:09:48] known as the Greater Israel Project. I believe that Israel has dragged the American people into wars that we should not fight on its behalf. So spare me the BS about how, oh, you have to support Israel or else you're an anti-Semite. No, I disagree, I do not comply. [00:10:04] I do not support Israel. And by the way, let me just be clear. If you want to take a look at what my views were on Israel two years ago, you'll notice a a very visible change. And it was gradual. [00:10:19] But that change was spurred by the behavior of the Israeli government, the IDF, and quite honestly, based on polling, the vast majority of the Israeli population. Sorry, sorry am I am I expected to like the North Korean government if I [00:10:39] don't like the North Korean government, does that mean I hate Koreans or could it be I don't like authoritarianism. I don't like dictators. No other group of people accuses others of hating an entire race, or an entire religious group, simply because they are critical of a political ideology. [00:11:02] So if I take, let's say, Jeffrey Sachs, I love Jeffrey Sachs. He happens to be Jewish. He actually lived in Israel for some time. Jeffrey Sachs, is an incredible human being who spends much of his time trying to forge peace deals and negotiations. [00:11:20] That's what he does. Then you have someone like Netanyahu who's also Jewish. I loathe him. Now, do I loathe him because he's Jewish? Or do I loathe him because he's a genocidal maniac and lunatic? I think you know the answer. So this is about political ideology. [00:11:38] And with Zionists essentially conflating Zionism with the whole of the Jewish people. All they're doing is increasing anti-Semitism, because there are idiots out there who might be fooled into thinking that's true. [00:11:54] It must mean that all Jewish people agree with what Zionism has, borne out in the Middle East. And that's just not true. So those clowns on that panel don't speak for all Jewish people. There's a lot of diversity among the Jewish population, especially [00:12:10] when it comes to the topic of Zionism. But anyway, bowler wasn't backing down. I'm happy to see it. She. She reiterated that her own religious doctrine doesn't align with Zionism. Take a look. [00:12:27] If somebody states an anti-Zionist, somebody says they're an anti-Zionist. They are saying about themselves that they that they have a double standard and hypocrisy, and they're taking anti-Semitic positions. Okay. Do you feel like you have your questions in? [00:12:43] I don't agree with that because as a Catholic, I don't agree that, the new modern state of Israel has any biblical prophecy. Meaning at all. So that's my stance. - And I'm Catholic. - Yeah. [00:12:58] Look, the emotional manipulation, all of this stuff I hate, it doesn't work on me. It doesn't work on most Americans. Most free thinking people see this for exactly what it is. Okay. Now, finally, this is this is the video that made my blood boil today. [00:13:15] Because think about what's happening here. Everyone who is critical of a foreign country, the foreign country of Israel, is smeared as an anti-Semite. But in this exchange, you're going to hear Prejean ask Shabbos [00:13:31] Kestenbaum about the victims in Gaza. And somehow these people are so delusional they lack so much self-awareness that they don't realize that what they are saying, what they are advocating for, is far worse than any American being critical [00:13:48] of the political ideology of Zionism. Take a look. Since we've mentioned Israel a total of 17 times, are you willing to condemn what Israel has done in Gaza? No, because I unilaterally hang on. I unilaterally reject that. It's not a genocide. The only genocide ever carried out was on October 7th, [00:14:04] when Hamas tried killing every man, woman and child they could possibly find. Hang on. Let me remind. Thousand innocent civilians killed. Let me let me respond to. First of all. You won't condemn that. And just on the record. No. Let me. Excuse me. As chair of the committee, I. Think it's important we have this discussion. [00:14:20] - I agree, I'm happy to answer and carry. - I think we'd be great friends. Yeah, I have an answer. Kerry. We have had this discussion. Good questions, good answers. This is a commission on religious liberty. If there's another commission on this issue. I don't know why we're talking about a foreign country. [00:14:37] Because everything in America has to do with that foreign country these days, it feels like, okay, so did you hear what Shabbos kestenbaum said? He said what happened on October 7th was a genocide. [00:14:53] You know, what Hamas did was wrong. I've been clear about that. I've been consistent about that. I'm not going to change my mind about that. But, I also know about the Hannibal directive. I also know about all of the Israeli civilians who were slaughtered by the IDF, which, by the way, didn't respond to what Hamas was doing for hours, I wonder why. [00:15:15] But anyway, in lieu of an actual investigation into that, which of course, Netanyahu doesn't want, which is why there are always these mass protests in Israel. The reality here is far more people, innocent people, civilians, 83% of them civilians killed in Gaza, slaughtered by the Israelis. [00:15:36] And what this piece of crap is saying. And this is why he triggers me so much to the point where I like, lose it, black out and just scream at him every time. The lives of anyone else, but in particular those Palestinian kids that the IDF slaughtered, we were just defending ourselves. [00:15:53] The real genocide. The real genocide happened on October 7th. These are bad people. Every accusation is an admission to me. The life of an innocent civilian in Israel is just as precious, just as valuable as [00:16:13] an innocent life in Gaza or the West Bank. But people like kestenbaum don't see it that way, and he has the audacity to sit there on that panel, along with the other chuds, and pretend as though we're the bad guys because we have an issue with the death [00:16:29] and destruction that Israel represents. Now that's what they represent. That's what the whole world thinks of when they think of Israel. Is that our fault, or could it be, I don't know, the mass slaughter campaigns that Israel has been engaging in, not just over the last two and a half years? [00:16:46] It's been going on for decades, decades. Anyway, of course, Laura Loomer, very, very triggered by, the line of questioning that we just heard from here. So, she is making her demands, heard, telling the Trump administration [00:17:05] that heads should roll. Who at the white House selected Kerry Jean-Pierre bowler to sit on the white House Religious Liberties Commission. Her behavior today was disgraceful. Oh, the behavior of the guy who literally has no problem with all those innocent people getting slaughtered in Gaza. [00:17:21] His behavior not problematic at all. He's one of you, right? So who cares? Who cares? You guys get to slaughter as many people as you want. No one's life matters except for your own and your little in-group. Everyone else could be disposed of, can be forgotten about. [00:17:39] Their culture can be erased. Hideous people. Man. Hideous people. And when I say hideous people, I'm specifically talking about Zionists. And that includes Christian Zionists. Bye bye. By the way, lots of Christian Zionists agreeing with Laura Loomer here because they've been brainwashed into thinking that in order for them [00:17:58] to make it to heaven, they need to support a country, a government that is carrying out genocide. What kind of twisted, sick religion is that? Evangelicals. Wakey, wakey. You believe in crazy stuff? Literally the most evil ideology imaginable. [00:18:16] The ideology that it's okay to kill innocent children. Anyway, she did tag the chief of staff Siouxsie Wiles, Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Stephen Miller in that post, hoping that, you know, maybe they'll carry out her demands here. [00:18:33] And it turns out that senior Trump administration official tells me there are internal discussions taking place at the white House to remove white House Religious Liberties Commission Member Carrie Prejean Boller after her outburst today on a religious freedom panel. [00:18:49] Remember, the religious freedom panel is just supposed to be about protecting the Zionists. Immediately gets hijacked by this. It's amazing. Anyway, she responds to that and says, Carrie? [00:19:04] Carrie Prejean responds to it and says, thank you all for the love and support I've received. I will continue to stand against Zionist supremacy in America. I'm a proud Catholic. I in no way will be forced to embrace Zionism as a fulfillment of biblical prophecy. [00:19:21] I am a free American, not a slave to a foreign nation. Hear, hear. But my favorite post of hers was this, she says, can you even imagine this? A religious liberty commission prepared to fire a commissioner for her Catholic faith. [00:19:36] If that happens, it proves their mission was never religious liberty, but a Zionist agenda. I refuse to resign. Good for you. And I hope she doesn't resign. And if they fire her? She's right. This isn't about religious liberty at all. If they fire her. [00:19:54] This is about providing yet another, you know, government effort to protect one group of people in this country. And it's not based on their ethnic background or their religious background. It's based on their political view. Be clear about that. You know that moment right before you launch something new, [00:20:11] that pit in your stomach? I remember when I started tight. 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