Jan 23, 2026
DISASTER Poll Hits ICE
Independent podcasters like Andrew Schulz, Joe Rogan and Tim Dillon are fed up with ICE's tactics.
- 15 minutes
This is why people need
their names on their badges.
Because now you're getting people
mixed up in the crosshairs.
Talk to me.
Because if they're like, I don't know,
apparently, like they're not named.
Like, apparently they don't have like,
well, yeah, they got the the shysters on.
Exactly. It's insane.
Yeah.
Right. It is insane.
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Yeah.
People are looking at them like murderous
military people that are on the streets
of our city, and they're masked up,
which is also a problem, right?
They're wearing a mask.
They don't have to tell you
that's a problem.
That's a problem on our city streets.
This is your cousin who, like,
was in backyard wrestling.
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Like, this is tough.
This is not the cream of the crop.
Do you know the guys that kidnaped
Maduro like Delta Force, Navy Seals.
This is not them.
In recent days, Andrew Schultz,
Joe Rogan, Tim Dillon and many others have
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all slammed Ice and the agency's tactics.
But how do the American people
feel about ice?
We'll get into the numbers.
But first, what do you think
about this shift that we're seeing
in this independent right
wing media space called it.
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So, look, I'm deeply encouraged to see
that folks
who I thought might be principled
on some of these issues have been.
And so, yeah, we were we were all
collectively not sure if they were
just going to be cucks for Trump.
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See there I did it again.
But they weren't. They haven't been.
So doesn't mean we agree with everything
they're saying, but that is super, good.
But by the way, they're not alone.
Part of the reason that they're in that
category is because the overwhelming
majority of Americans agree with them.
Ice has gone too far.
We have those numbers for you in a second.
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But my second point is, I'm super worried
about this new idea that they have
that they're going to put us
on domestic terrorist lists.
And I hope that those same guys
are going to be even more animated
about that terrible idea.
So let's give you all the facts.
So let's start with the poll that The
New York Times and Siena conducted
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from January 12th through the 17th.
In total, 61% of respondents said
that ISIS tactics have gone too far.
26 said they are about right.
11% said they are not enough.
But how do those numbers break down
by party affiliation? 94% of Democrats
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stated that ISIS tactics have gone
too far. 71% of independents agreed.
But only 19% of Republicans said
that ISIS tactics are excessive.
So Ice has a low approval rating.
Overall, just 66% of voters said
they approved of the way Ice was
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handling its job, according to the poll,
while 63% disapproved,
including 70% of independent voters.
Now here's where the numbers start
to get a little more complicated.
According to this poll, voters are not
supportive of Trump's immigration policy.
But when asked about Trump's border
and deportation policies specifically,
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voters responded more positively.
This is what we mean
when voters were asked about how Trump
has handled immigration,
58% said that they disapproved
and 40% said that they approved. 50%
of voters said they approved of the Trump
administration's deportations of people
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living in the country illegally,
while 47% opposed them.
The president's handling
of the southern border
was viewed favorably by 50% of voters.
So there is some nuance in these numbers.
But generally when this.
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The brutality that we are seeing
in our streets is not palatable
to a majority of Americans.
And for me,
I'm taking some hope from that.
And that is a starting point for
conversations about those other aspects
of his immigration and deportation policy.
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What do you think?
Actually, I'm way more encouraged
than you are.
I mean, I don't think that it's like I
love nuance, but I don't think this one
has as much nuance as some of the other
stories, because look at the numbers.
I just want to emphasize
some of the things here.
So Trump on immigration
after he closed down the border.
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That's the perception.
And that's most Americans
are in favor of that.
And in the beginning,
they were going after criminals more
that were undocumented
and that had positive ratings, etc..
So he took that goodwill.
And remember, that was
the second biggest issue in the election.
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The American people
did vote for him based on that.
He took all that goodwill
and he flushed it right down the toilet
in one year with these masked thugs.
He's now on the issue of immigration.
He's under water 40 to 58. That's
18 points underwater on immigration.
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That was his top issue.
So because on inflation.
Yeah,
that was the number one issue overall.
But you weren't sure if Trump
really could do something about it.
But on immigration they were like yeah
Trump's definitely going to do something.
Now he's 18 points underwater.
No. That's like again look guys
I'm the guy who called out Trump.
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I mean Biden when he was in the mid 30s.
And I said, look, these are
there's real political realities.
You cannot be in the mid 30s, especially
as an incumbent and win the election.
It's not possible. It's never been done.
Right.
So being 18 points underwater
in immigration for a Republican president,
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especially Trump, is disastrous.
So when you get into more
of those numbers,
61% saying that ISIS is going too far.
That's a giant number.
But look at the number
that's saying not enough. 11%.
That's actually microscopic politically.
That means you're on the extreme edge.
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In fact, let's dive into those
numbers a little bit more.
Look, when 71% of independents
say that ISIS is going too far.
No no no no.
Those independents are the reason
Trump won and now they're gone.
So how is he going to get him back?
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I mean, they're not interested
in all these wars he's starting.
They're not interested in what the thugs
thuggish behavior of ice.
They're not interested in not releasing
the Epstein files backing Israel 100%.
All these things.
And he's getting more and more unpopular.
And almost all the independents
have turned against him.
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That's why people are starting
to worry about.
Wait, is he going to try to do something
to like stop the election
or rigged election in 2016,
because at this pace, they're going
to get significantly hurt politically.
The Republicans are right.
And then last one from this,
even among Republicans.
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So sure, we got bad numbers there
in terms of 19% saying going too far.
But usually they don't really break
with Trump that much.
So already two out of ten Republicans
are against it, 56% saying right,
but only 24% saying not enough.
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So if you were wondering what how
how big is the extreme right wing?
The guys who are like, oh, they shot
Renee good in the head three times,
but at least she was a lesbian, right?
Like that contingent, right?
Apparently it's only a quarter
of the Republican Party.
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So that makes it right around that 11%
that you're seeing in the overall numbers.
So those are great numbers
if you want to take power away from Trump.
So as terrible as ice is,
It's doing more damage politically
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to Trump than anyone else.
Keith, what do you think?
Well, first off, with Joe Rogan,
Theo Von, who's the mustache man?
Andrew.
Andrew Schultz I just want an apology.
I don't need more than that.
But I would like one apology.
I'm sorry.
I didn't know this was gonna happen.
I'm sorry I helped this happen.
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But those numbers are stunning.
And to me, to me, it says that they are
not planning on having to have the support
of the electorate for elections.
I don't know what that means.
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I don't know if it means
that they're not planning
on having free and fair elections.
I don't know if it means that Donald
Trump just is like, see you later.
I don't care what happens because I'm out.
Or if Donald Trump thinks that he's going
to be able to figure out a way to be
in power, because these are not people
who are governing like they care
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what the electorate thinks.
That's that is my worry about all of this.
Yeah.
You know, just real quick on that.
I don't need a story.
All I need is a yes. So it's okay to have.
Yeah. No, it's fine.
But, like, as long as they're coming
to our side in some ways and, and it's
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affecting politics in the right direction.
I'm thrilled about it.
And, you know, of all people,
Tucker Carlson from time to time.
And he did it when, he interviewed Anna,
my co-host, Anna Kasparian.
He said, yeah, sorry, I shouldn't
have been in favor of those wars.
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So, like, weird, amazing things
are happening in media, and I think
it's affecting these numbers as well.
Jordan.
Hey, on the podcast or front,
it's just like, I'm with Keith.
It's like, yeah, you you didn't want it,
but how did you not know
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this was going to happen?
That's my thing.
It's like they weren't hiding it.
They were telling us
they were going to do this.
And I think they only focused
on the criminals
and the worst of the worst stuff,
and ignored all of the other violent,
Bloodthirsty rhetoric
that we all saw and paid attention to
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and were very worried about.
I don't know, it's just like you got
to take a little responsibility because we
we have this autopsy after the election.
They played an outsized role in shaping
people's perceptions of the candidates.
And all of those guys
were very supportive of Trump.
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They had caveats, of course.
And, you know, Dave Smith had said, like,
look,
if he doesn't do these things, I'm out.
Trump didn't do those things.
He's out like he had his his line
that Trump, if he crossed it, he was gone.
So yeah, like there were
some people like that.
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But I think the the comedians
who wade into politics weren't paying
close attention and I would argue,
misinformed their audience.
And this is the consequence in part,
it's not just them, of course,
but when you have a platform that big,
I've always maintained you need to have
more responsibility for what you say,
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who you have on and what your viewers
are told or what they ultimately believe.
If it comes from you.
Okay, we got to go to the domestic
terrorist But I just last thing
to respond to that super quick is like,
I hear you guys and politically
I agree with you, but they haven't been
in politics that long.
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Like is Theo Von a political strategist
that's been around for decades?
Not really.
He's just trying to figure out the world.
And it's also on us to not pick corporate
robots, because when you're doing
a populist show and the Democrats go,
here is a great corporate robot
that we have, like, you can't.
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They're like,
I can't go in that direction.
So I guess I'll go for the Mad Men.
But this is what the Mad Men wrought.
And that's why we were warning you
about the Mad Men.
But I'll take yes for an answer. Any day.
All day. All right.
- Tell us about the most important.
- Much more I want to say, but.
There's another video from Nathan Bernard.
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That was taken by a legal observer.
Let's start with this.
- It's not legal to record.
- Exactly.
Yeah, that's what we're doing. Yeah.
Why are you taking my information down?
- Because we have a nice little database.
- Oh, good.
And now you're considered
domestic terrorists.
So have fun for videotaping you.
Are you crazy?
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Now, that incident is backed up
by a disturbing new report written
by enemy of the show, Ken Klippenstein.
DHS has ordered immigration officers
to gather identifying information
about anyone filming them
and to send that information to Intel
who will do a workup on them.
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Federal law enforcement official
directly involved tells me, meaning trying
to identify them via social media,
running their license plates if available,
and running a criminal history check.
Klippenstein published
a related scoop on Wednesday.
He was leaked a copy
of the Trump administration's
2026 Homeland Threat Assessment.
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It posits that America's greatest threat
in 2026 is not foreign adversaries,
but rather domestic terrorism.
But what defines a domestic terrorist?
The document reads a threat actors
with ideological motivations.
Domestic violent extremists in recent
years have been the most active plotters.
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They are motivated to conduct attacks
by a wide range of factors,
including anti-government sentiment,
racial and ethnic grievances.
Says anti-Israel and anti-Semitic beliefs
and class based or economic grievances.
And there's more.
But for the sake of time,
I want to bring you in here.
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Okay.
This is an absolute disaster.
So it's on two fronts.
One is now we're calling American citizens
domestic terrorists.
Okay.
Once you start calling
each other terrorists.
Good night. Irene.
Okay.
Whoever comes into office arrest
the other side because they're terrorists.
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It's like the worst word
in the English language.
It's almost always abused
for political purposes.
It doesn't really have any meaning.
Hamas is considered terrorist
because they have a 67% kill ratio.
And that is true.
They are terrorists,
and that does prove it.
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Israel has an 83% civilian kill ratio.
They are bigger terrorists,
but they are never called terrorists
in American media because the word
terrorist is just propaganda.
And now it was.
I hated it when they used it
against Palestinians overall.
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And then they're killing all those
civilians in Gaza, but now they've started
to use it on us here at home in America.
So and if you notice, the second part
of it is gratuitously for no reason.
Israel is on the list, which it's like,
okay, if you say things, if you endanger
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the lives of Ice officers and say
something mean about them or their mom.
Plus, if you say anything
against Portugal, we'd be like,
why is Portugal in there?
Right?
But Israel is in there.
Nobody goes, why is Israel in there?
Because this isn't even about us, brother.
The surveillance state is going to start.
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And when it does, the first
thing they're going to crack down
is any protest of Israel.
You are to give all of your money to them.
And if you object, domestic terrorists
treat them like a Palestinian.
That's what's coming next.
And against American citizens.
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Hell, no.
Keith.
Well, I think we we know what they want
to do to people who they call terrorists.
They've done it to the narco terrorists.
They killed them in the ocean, and they
are going to label anyone here in America
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as a terrorist, as someone that does
not have to have laws and due process.
So to me, the terrorist label is obviously
them trying to say that if you do
something that the government doesn't
like, then you actually don't have rights
and they can do whatever they want to you.
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It's not good.
Yeah.
Narco terrorists slash fishermen. Yes.
Right.
And so it's one thing when it's
Venezuelan fishermen and I hate it.
It's another thing when it becomes our
fishermen and our carpenters and bakers
and construction guys, etc..
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So no no no no no no.
We're not calling any Americans terrorists
on the left or the right, and we're
not taking away their rights, and we're
not for any of this un-American crap.
And if they really start
putting people on a list, I'm hoping
that all those guys you saw earlier,
the Rogans and all those guys all
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collectively say, on behalf of America.
Hell no.
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