When I was at Fox News, which was a long time, 14 years, I would have known exactly what to do in the wake of Trump's attack in Venezuela. His retrieval, shall we say, to put it in mild terms of Nicolas Maduro. I would have known that I was supposed to cheerlead it, and I turned on Fox [00:00:18] News yesterday, and I'm sorry, but it was like watching Russian propaganda. Megyn Kelly is not wrong. And we'll show you the goods in just a moment. But she did have some harsh words for her former place of employment, Fox News [00:00:34] and her former colleagues, presumably. Now. Jake. - Your $0.02. - Yeah. Look, you got to watch the whole thing because she's basically now dishing dirt, as Tucker is, to about Fox News and what they were really up to. But you already saw the something super consequential. [00:00:51] She just told you she would know what to do if she was at Fox News. They are. They don't have independent judgment there. They are ordered to say certain talking points, and they are almost always on behalf of the donors, the rich, the powerful, etc. [00:01:07] And now you're hearing it from the horse's mouth. You're hearing former Fox News anchors say, of course. And now that we're independent, that's not our real opinion and never was. And that's kind of damning of everyone involved. I mean, it is it is damning of everyone involved. [00:01:23] But I'm not trying to provide cover for the hosts. But I also understand what it's like to need to earn a living right and getting very comfortable at your place. And I'm not talking about tight. Obviously I've been here forever and I want to be here, but you know, there have [00:01:40] been other situations in which you find yourself needing to make extra money and, not really loving your situation, but you don't really have a choice. You get what I'm saying? Like, that's come up. And so I don't really begrudge people for needing to earn a living, even if they're in a situation where they're feeling pressure to say [00:01:57] certain things they might not believe. Yeah, I get it. So, look, Anna's going to give you this story, but I'll also add at the end the pressure I had when I was a host on MSNBC. And so and it's I mean, I think it's a double edged sword. I mean, you could say, oh yeah, there's pressure and you got to earn a living. [00:02:14] But also some of these guys make $20 million a year. Yeah, that's definitely true. But you get used to that money. You get used to that money, right? Yeah. And by the way, in a sense, you don't need the money anymore after you've done that a couple of years. On the other hand, it's awfully tough to turn down 5 million a year. 20 million a year. [00:02:30] You did it. Maybe not 5 million, but you turned down a pretty lucrative contract with MSNBC back when it was called MSNBC. So I want to tell you about the people that still stayed on MSNBC and the deal that they really had to do, like the Fox deal. Yeah. Well, before we get to that, let's talk a little bit about what Megyn Kelly has [00:02:47] to say about what the Trump administration just carried out in Venezuela. I love our military as much as anyone, and I believe in President Trump. But there are serious reasons to just exercise a note of caution before we just get on the rah rah train. [00:03:05] All right. I have done that enough times in my career as a Fox News anchor, to have been embarrassed enough to know I'm going to stay on the yellow light for this. So I really do commend her for being honest about that, [00:03:22] because it doesn't just make Fox look bad. I mean, it's self-deprecating because she is conceding that she would go along with it. Right. And look there. I'm sure she feels way more liberated now because she has her own podcast. It's tremendously successful and she's her own boss, [00:03:39] so she doesn't have to kowtow to anybody. And that's amazing. Anyway, so. But at the same time, I do want to add just one quick thing. A lot of people who have their own independent shows do still feel pressure. It's just that their pressure is from the audience. [00:03:56] Right? So audience capture is very real. I think our audience has become accustomed to me not really caring about them, getting upset at my opinions. I'm going to share my opinions no matter what. I've always been that way. But a lot of people don't want to deal with backlash from their audience, so they kind of go along with what their audience wants. [00:04:13] I mean, look, at this point, you could argue in a sense that, like, since people know us for being independent and we'd like to think honest, you know, we try our hardest. And now a lot of people are acknowledging it, right? They agree. Disagree. But they know we're being honest with them because we don't get audience captured [00:04:31] and we don't get captured by any of these interests. And I think that's why people do come to us. So we have that advantage. So that's great. And but I want to go back to Venezuela for a second. And it actually is somewhat related to the audience capture. There's a reason why Megyn Kelly is at a yellow light. And yesterday we showed you Steve Bannon even Saagar enjeti all at a yellow light. [00:04:52] Okay. And that's partly because some portion of their audience is saying, wait, wait, wait. We're anti-war. Anti-war, right. But other portions of their audience is saying, oh, this is awesome, man. We bombed things. We killed people, we kidnaped him. We're America was strong and a lot of MAGA did love what happened. [00:05:10] - And Trump's popularity has gone up. - It has. So that's why they're like, yellow light, right? And to be fair to them, by the way, I get it because we don't know. Is this all or are we going to get sucked into a quagmire and have ground troops? [00:05:26] So to be fair to them, a yellow light is warranted. Yeah. I mean, I've got a total red light, don't get me wrong. Yeah, yeah. And look, I much prefer her commentary here as opposed to what we heard from Megyn Kelly. And honestly, I found it tasteless. And I really didn't like it when she was egging on, cheering on [00:05:45] the strikes against random fishing boats that didn't even have the capacity to make it to the United States. And so she unfortunately believed the Trump administration's lies about how those were really dangerous drug trafficking boats. But at least here she's like, wait, pause, pause. [00:06:03] I heard her condemn the notion of sending ground troops to Venezuela. And she also pointed to Iraq and Libya as two examples of American foreign policy failures. She has Glenn Greenwald on the show regularly, and Glenn Greenwald [00:06:19] is pretty great on foreign policy issues. So I'm really happy to see him on on her show on a regular basis. Now, let's take a quick trip over to Fox News and see what their coverage is looking like. There was a time when conquest was celebrated for God, for King, for glory. [00:06:37] For Americans, there's no such thing as stolen land. There's no such thing as international law. There is only such thing as conquest. And if it serves Americans, then so be it. We rule the jungle. We are the lion. If you don't use it, you lose it. And that goes for Greenland. [00:06:55] And it also goes for oil, the oil that Venezuela has and Denmark better wise up. They should sell it to us, lease it to us, or we could run it together. Who cares? But we need it more than they do. Same with the oil. America and the world is a safer, freer place. [00:07:11] And this administration, they are making no apologies. Nor should they. In fact, taking Maduro into custody, I argue, was quintessentially MAGA. 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[00:08:16] Interesting. Now China has grown its influence considerably and has made quite a bit of investment in growing their military capacity and capability. So if they manage to build their military up to the point where they're [00:08:31] formidable foe to the United States military foe to the United States. By the way, as the United States continues bleeding out on the international stage because of all these foreign entanglements we get involved in, and because of the fact that our Federal Reserve keeps printing money, printing money, printing money to pay for all of this crap. [00:08:49] Is Fox News going to say, hey, this should be celebrated. Conquest should be celebrated. There is no international law. There is no international law. Okay, guys. It's pathetic. It's actually quite obvious. So I remember fighting the Nazis because there we did care about [00:09:05] international law and land conquest. And it was not such a great thing that they were the lion and they took Austria and Poland and Belgium and. ET cetera. So now they're coming back around and going, yes, who cares, man, if you're strong like the Nazis were, just take it right. [00:09:22] - Thievery is apparently totally okay. - Yeah. So who cares about the, you know, shoplifting chains and, like, who cares? There is no law. Law of the jungle. They're the lions. They're the guys going in and apparently stealing stuff at CVS and stuff. [00:09:38] They're saying, now I'm the lion. What are you going to do about. - There is no. - Law. There is no law. As Matt Walsh said yesterday, international law is gay and fake. Okay. Now. Okay, so he's a buffoon. I got it right. But look at this. This is Fox News and they're all saying it. [00:09:53] They all have the same talking point. Ignore the law. Let's note for the record that these are the guys who base their entire party on the rule of law and law and order. That's what Republicans and the right wing is about law and order. Unless, of course, it's law we don't like, in which case it's gay and we ignore it. [00:10:13] Okay, so last analogy here. I'm not I'm trying not to bring Israel into us, but okay. So Israel loves this kind of talk. Who cares. Conquest. Just take their land, kill their people, take their land. But wait, what if it's us or our allies? [00:10:29] Now, of course, America is very hard to kill and take our land, right? For now. But what if the Arab countries or Iran or Russia or China decided, you know what, I think you guys are right. And I'm not going to take Taiwan. They're too small an economy. I'll take Israel. [00:10:46] So would all of those commentators and all those pundits come out and go, who cares? Law of the jungle. Russia took Israel and they should take Israel. Conquest. They're the lion and Israel is the lamb. And I'm glad they were slaughtered. [00:11:02] No, you know what they would say? They would say, America, you have to defend it. You have to. I don't care how many men die. I don't care how many trillions of dollars you have to spend in international law. International law has been breached. Our beloved Israel has been attacked, right? [00:11:19] So I'm just saying that it's obvious that it's contextual. If you're on the if you feel like you're a little stronger. Yeah, you want to break the law. But there's a reason why the law exists, because one day you're not going to be stronger in certain contexts, you're not stronger, and we're going to have chaos and anarchy [00:11:35] with everyone attacking one another. If there is no international law and you know who created international law? We did. America did. We should be super proud of that because it has brought down conflict since 1945. We nearly murdered all of us in 1945, in the in World War two. [00:11:52] And we've avoided World War three until now. Why? Because we had an international law. Yep. And just to take it back to Megyn Kelly for one second, there's nothing better than freedom. And when you have your own thing going and you're your own boss, that's freedom. [00:12:09] So exercise that freedom and say what you really think. And I'm happy to see that she's doing that. Yeah. And last thing is, because I promise promised you super quick and become a member. I'll tell you the full story. So, at MSNBC, you always knew where the guardrails were, and if you didn't know it, they would politely remind you and then not so politely, and then [00:12:28] they'd have meetings about it, etc.. So every host on MSNBC knows, for example, for 20 years straight, you could not criticize Democratic leadership. If you did, you were going to be in trouble. So they know that there's only a certain amount of opinion they're allowed on MSNBC or on Fox News or on CNN. [00:12:45] And they all know instinctually, if I don't want to risk my millions of dollars in salary, I'm going to be a good boy and good girl. And I'm going to tell you that Pelosi and Biden are the greatest thing in the world, and that they're super young and the Republicans are the real enemy. And don't worry about lobbyists or money or corporations, etc.. [00:13:02] So they're they're doing propaganda in those places. And, and and if you try to do anything outside of the propaganda, you'll be fired every time you ring the bell below, an angel gets its wings. Totally not true. But it does keep you updated on our live shows.