Jan 5, 2026
MAGA DIVIDED On Trump's Capture Of Nicolás Maduro
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Walsh, Benny Johnson and other MAGA influencers are divided about the capture of Nicolás Maduro.
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After this regime change in Venezuela,
I fear that we're going to see jobs
just move south,
because we're already hearing
about big corporations
lining up their trips to Venezuela for the
next big business opportunity that exists,
while Americans sit here with no options
that are going to provide them with good
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paying jobs and affordable health care.
So we now live in a topsy turvy world
where Marjorie Taylor Greene
is the voice of reason on the right.
But she is again in this situation
and the attack on Venezuela.
There are a couple of others that are,
got this thing figured out
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and that are actually America.
First, we're going to show you those,
but we're also going to show you a lot
of MAGA influencers who are ecstatic about
this and have totally forgotten that they
were supposed to pretend to be anti-war.
And they're, not great comments, to say
the least, are also part of this story.
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So we'll do all of that, and then
we'll talk about who's going to win this,
this portion of the MAGA Civil War.
After Sharon gives you all the facts.
Yeah. So let's fill people in.
Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene
went on the record to oppose President
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Donald Trump's regime change operation.
Many other MAGA figures, they are siding
with the Trump administration.
So without further ado,
let's take a look at who's for who's
against the kidnaping of Nicolas Maduro.
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We're going to start with Benny Johnson.
Ladies and gentlemen, Smartmatic
and Dominion Voting Systems.
Were the voting systems
being used at this time.
And in these states and all around
the world, they are Venezuelan by design
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and by systems and storage facilities.
And through their actual technology,
these systems I have
on extremely good authority
can and do rig elections around the world.
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And Nicolas Maduro might be Trump's final
revenge for the election theft of 2020.
If he begins to sing like a canary,
which he will.
They always do.
Then who will he give up? Soros.
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China.
Left wing NGOs. Left wing billionaires.
Who was funding his regime?
How? They stole the election.
He'll sing.
He'll tell them everything.
They got his wife.
- This is why they took him alive.
- You see where this is going, right?
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Meanwhile, Matt Walsh stated this on X.
I'm as reflexively noninterventionist
as anyone can possibly be,
but Venezuela appears to be a resounding
victory in one of the most brilliant
military operations in American history.
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He goes on to say, if some.
Let's get to the punchline, if some
crappy little tinpot third world dictator
is harming our country or interfering
with our national interests, we should
do exactly what Trump did to Maduro.
Why not?
International law is fake and gay.
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The only international law
is that big and powerful countries
get to do what they want.
It has been that way
since the dawn of civilization.
It will always be that way.
All right.
Let's give you the response here.
Cigar and jet posted the following.
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I am reflexively anti-intervention
because I still believe the US military is
stunningly capable of limited operations,
but Washington lacks the strategic
competence to successfully achieve an
end game in a complex, faraway land
without bad 40th order consequences.
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How about Tim Pool?
His take was a bit mixed.
Here's what he wrote.
Removing Maduro made infinitely more sense
than anything we did in Iraq
and Afghanistan, but still don't lie.
This is for oil and the Petro dollar.
This isn't about drugs or narco gangs.
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Just be honest.
Steve Bannon also called out
the messaging from Trump administration
in an interview with The New York Times,
here's what Bannon said
the lack of framing of the message
on a potential occupation
has the base bewildered, if not angry.
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While President Trump makes the case for
hemispheric defense, Rubio confuses talk
of removing Hamas and Hezbollah.
In his daily morning newsletter,
Tucker Carlson offered some mild criticism
while simultaneously defending Trump.
We love Trump, but what he's describing
is a nation building campaign.
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There's no way around it.
President's instincts on foreign
entanglement are strong, but the usurpers
around Trump disagree, and they mugged him
into advancing their agenda.
In each of his administrations,
Dave Smith, well,
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he attacked his fellow conservatives.
Here's what he wrote.
I'm so disappointed
in the prominent right wingers
supporting Trump's attack on Venezuela,
including many who should know better.
I'm sure in 20 years they will be making
excellent documentaries about how we
were right and then mocking us
as they support the next terrible thing.
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Let's end with Jack Posobiec,
who stated that only time will tell
if this operation is successful or not.
Listen.
I fully support the policy
of black bagging communists
and taking them to Guantanamo Bay.
And in fact, I have a list
if anyone would like to check it out.
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But when it comes down to it,
it it always comes.
And if you go back and look at the Human
Events series that we ran last week,
regime change, tales of regime change.
We talk about Iraq, we talk about
Afghanistan, we talk about Ukraine 2014.
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We talk about Syria.
The question always comes,
what comes next?
What did I say here
on the show on Saturday?
I said, is this a full on regime change
or are they just taking out one guy?
And it appears to be that that's what the
president and Marco Rubio said afterwards,
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because the president said
we are not installing Machado.
He was very clear
about that cold water all over it.
And then Rubio coming out and saying
that he was having discussions with
the vice president of Venezuela, who had
been sort of this henchwoman for Maduro.
But of course, she's off there.
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Kind of looks like she's going
into business for herself as it is.
- So again, we will see what comes next.
- All right.
So, Jake, is there any chance
that this operation,
I guess we'll call it, can be successful?
And is international law fake and gay?
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Okay, so, as I explained earlier
in the show, it's about a 10% chance
that the CIA are geniuses and they've
actually got the vice President Rodriguez,
already lined up in their back pocket,
and she's pretending to object,
but she isn't really objecting.
And they've also lined up the defense
minister and the head of the militias
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and the head of any other,
part of the military that was loyal
to Maduro. 2026 just started.
And like a lot of us, I've got some
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That's your 10% chance, in which case
they slowly do, you know, regime change
and we install Machado or her allies
in there, and then there are puppets,
and they do whatever we tell them.
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That is very low probability.
Much higher probability
is they have no idea what they're doing.
And this makes no sense at all.
And that is why you are seeing
half of those guys waiver.
So let's talk about the waiver.
Now.
A lot of them said they were anti-war.
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So turning around and saying,
God, we love war.
Let's go do regime change
in Venezuela and Iran.
And oh, this is great.
It's a it's a pretty sharp turn. Right?
So they're a little worried
about that turn.
And they're a little worried that they
already just told their audience for years
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and years that they were anti-war.
And that was the correct position.
So they're concerned about that.
Now.
On the other hand,
they see a lot of right wing and I see it
the actual voters, citizens, etc.,
who are super psyched about this.
And honestly, it's a little bit of like,
you know, rah rah, America,
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bald eagle, American flag.
We kill, we kidnap, we're the tough guys.
We do whatever we want.
And so there's a little bit
of like getting high on,
on on that supply at this point.
So that's why they're like
they seem to kind of like it.
I think they're going to hate it later.
So I'm not quite sure what I want to do.
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And that was you saw
at the end there and before.
Just I think last week I said
Sobek is kind of the weathervane
of the right wing movement.
He just wants to go wherever it's popular.
He doesn't really care.
He doesn't doesn't
doesn't seem to have any principles.
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So he's basically going on the one hand.
On the other hand.
So but you know, that could be worse.
It could be the Matt Walsh reaction.
Right.
So I'll go one by one as quickly as I can.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
I thought was perfect.
Not perfect from a left wing perspective.
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She said a lot of things in her reaction
on TV and on X, where I was like,
I don't necessarily agree with that.
Right.
But in terms of being anti-interventionist
and anti-war, she's being
true to the principles that she espoused.
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Trump is originally espoused
and definitely Maga
and America first espoused.
So she is being consistent and principled,
and I agree with her position overall.
Matt Walsh is a clown.
So let's start with this half a sentence.
I'm as reflexively noninterventionist
as anyone can possibly be.
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Wrong again Bob.
Because the anti-interventionist position
here is don't intervene and you're going.
I am maximum anti-interventionist.
And that's why I thought it was
a great idea to intervene in Venezuela.
Maybe you struggle
with the English language.
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And so that's why you don't understand
the meaning of words.
But we are definitely intervening here.
And he says, well, you know, look, strong
countries take over smaller countries
and do whatever they want to them.
International law is gay and fake.
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Yeah, but what if the strong country is
Germany and they want to do whatever they
want to Poland and Austria and France and
Belgium, and to Jews and the poles and.
ET cetera. ET cetera.
Well. So what?
So what? International law is gay.
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The Nazis should be allowed
to do what ever they want.
Well, I hope you don't think that.
I hope that there's a reason
why America was the leading country
that set up international law.
And we didn't do that
just out of the goodness of our heart.
We did that because we thought that would
be beneficial to us, to democracy,
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to the world order that we believe in.
And by the way, if you're a right winger,
you should certainly make up your mind
on a couple of things.
Are you anti-war or pro-war?
Okay, so you tell me, and they are
telling you right now you should listen.
And the ones that said that this attack
on Venezuela was a great idea,
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make note of that, by the way.
Also make note of people like me
who say it's a terrible idea and then
come back and see who was right, okay?
And see who's wavering
and see who's clear in this case.
So Matt Walsh is clear.
Like break the law.
Rule of law means nothing.
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Anti-war. He was just kidding.
Pro-war, etc.
So that's Matt Walsh,
and he's super clear about it.
And he's when any time he talks
about Anti-intervention
now understand he's a giant fraud.
Never meant it.
The minute that a Republican president
does the next attack, he'll be like, well,
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normally I'm very anti-interventionist,
but I love this intervention.
Give me more war.
Yeah, okay. That's what I thought.
Matt Sager
honestly, that was a word salad.
I mean, I guess he's saying, oh yeah,
I see all your right wingers are in favor
of it, but later there'll be consequences.
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Yeah, that's relatively true, but I
would have come out stronger than this.
So I'm a little bit disappointed
in saga on that one.
Tim Pool all right.
I mean, at least he's being honest.
He's saying, yeah, we're doing it
for oil and the petrodollar.
And that is true.
And it's not about the drugs.
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So give score one for Tim
Pool on honesty guys.
Not on agreeing with left or right
on honesty and being principled
Steve Bannon saying, hey, I, we like war.
And so he's pulling the same thing
as Posobiec.
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We're pretending to not like war,
but when you break things and kill people
and kidnap people, we can't help but
really kind of instinctually love that.
But at the same time, why are we doing
this for, you know, for Israel and Rubio
and Huckabee and Netanyahu are all
talking about we did this for Israel.
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We vanquished Hezbollah
and Iran in Venezuela.
So, okay, so he's right
for a note of caution there.
Obviously, Tucker is being careful because
he's seeing the same thing I'm seeing,
which is that this this, in my opinion,
I'm not putting words in his mouth.
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The right wing these days, Trump voters,
they're a little drunk
on how well the mission went.
And let me pause there, guys,
before I get to the rest.
The mission that we just did was tactic,
tactics and tactical, right.
So we're great at tactics.
Nobody's better than us.
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So can we go capture Saddam? We did.
Did we hang him? We hung him.
Did we capture Maduro? We captured him.
Did we capture bin laden?
It took a freaking forever.
Partly because I want to capture him.
But anyway, we finally did capture him.
So we're good at tactics.
We're the best in the business.
Don't let that distract you from strategy.
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Strategy is.
Yes, but how do we get to the end game?
What do we do next?
How do we get the Venezuelan leaders
to agree with Maduro to comply with us?
And if they don't comply with us,
what's next?
Trump, being a grade-A moron
hasn't thought any of that through.
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And he said, how can you tell?
Because he goes in a press conference
and he goes,
now we're gonna we're running Venezuela.
You seem Rubio in the back going.
Like, are we?
And then he goes on TV, he's like,
no, no, no, we're not running it.
But we are running it. But it is a war.
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But it's not a war.
Okay. Yeah.
They have no earthly idea
what they're doing.
Dave Smith 100 out of 100.
He meant he said anti-war.
He meant anti-war.
He's of course. Right.
And so, the reason I want
everybody keeps score, Sharon,
is because just like in Iraq,
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later everyone will claim that they were
against this war in Venezuela and everyone
will say, well, I mean, I turned.
I mean, I was against.
Of course I was anti-war, I was anti-war.
No, no, no.
When we start a war
is when you tell us you're pro or antiwar.
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Don't tell me after you supported a war,
that you changed your mind later,
but you'd like to have credit
for being anti-war?
No, no, this is decision time.
This is not going to end
with one simple bombing and kidnaping.
Not that it was simple.
It was brilliantly done by our forces.
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But it doesn't accomplish anything
as long as the vice president
totally agrees with Maduro.
And she's saying she does.
So then you've got to go in
again and again and again until you
have ground troops and a quagmire.
And then all these guys,
after those series of disasters, will turn
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around and Matt Walsh will tell you,
I was always anti-intervention,
I'm the most anti-interventionist guy.
That's why I love the Iraq War.
That's why I love the Venezuela War.
That's why I love every war
until it goes south.
And then I lie to you and pretend
that I was always against it.
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Yeah. It's interesting.
I know that this is a story about mixed
MAGA and their their strife and struggles.
Internal war, if you will.
But I also wonder.
I mean, they're so good at being loud
and proud, even when they disagree.
If the other side, you know,
the Democrats, progressives,
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have they been loud enough in staking
their claim on what what matters here?
Yeah.
So, you know,
on that I a couple mixed feelings.
So first on the left overall,
we should proudly declare, what we think
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and we're the left has been antiwar
the entire time, for the last 25 years.
In fact, back to Vietnam, etc..
So we're antiwar,
and we should stake our claim to that.
And we should let people know
left wing populists are honest.
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And when we say we're are anti-war,
we don't get seduced by, oh,
did we kill and kidnap someone?
Oh, that's so much fun.
No. We think things through
and realize this has gone poorly
every single time since Vietnam.
So maybe we shouldn't do it again
like a bunch of idiots, right?
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Sorry, but it's.
It's the reality.
There is no end game here at all.
It's going to end in disaster
and want you to know that.
I think that on day one,
because it's a pure matter of logic.
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Unless we have them already completely
surrendered, this is never going to work.
Okay.
So in terms of like the the rest of them.
Yeah. Same thing.
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You know, Sharon, they'll come back
and say later, oh, I had a change of heart
or whatever the hell, but no, this is
this is this is not going to end well.
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