While President Donald Trump has really gone out of his way to downplay his previous relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, a new exposé by The New York Times really does detail how close they actually were before they had their big falling out. [00:00:15] Now, I'm curious if you're surprised by any of this. No, of course not. So look, as you're going to see in this story, Trump and Epstein weren't casual acquaintances. They were peas in a pod. Now, that doesn't mean Trump did anything illegal. [00:00:31] As you're going to see in the story. But one more thing we want you to focus on after we give you all the facts of how close Trump and Epstein were, is who The New York Times didn't cover in this Epstein scandal. Well, in this particular article, they have covered a series [00:00:46] of Epstein related stories. And some of them do have to do with his relationship with Israel. But this one in particular has to do with Epstein's relationship with Trump. And the first thing I need to get out of the way, because it is important. Look, the times claims that they found absolutely no evidence [00:01:04] based on the evidence they have access to that implicates Trump in any abuse or trafficking of minors. Okay, so let's just get that out of the way. That being said, there were certainly some serious allegations against him that have [00:01:19] not been proven in court, but nonetheless, we're going to go through some of them. Now, what they did find, though, and this is without a shadow of a doubt, is that Trump's relationship with Epstein was much closer than he would have us believe. So beginning in the late 1980s, the two men forged a bond intense enough [00:01:37] to leave others who knew them with the impression that they were each other's closest friend. In fact, even after Epstein had a falling out with Trump, apparently he still had a framed image of Trump and Melania in his home, which I think is strange. [00:01:54] Now, the two also talked at least three times a week. I mean, my best. I love my best friend. Okay. I would do anything for her. And I'm not exaggerating. I don't talk to her three times a week. Okay. But he would talk to Epstein at least three times a week [00:02:11] during the mid to late 1990s, according to one of Epstein's assistants from that period, and Trump denied knowing about Epstein's abuse of underage girls. However, a tranche of emails released in November indicated that Epstein suggested otherwise. [00:02:28] So in a 2019 message to the journalist Michael Wolff, Epstein wrote of Trump. Of course he knew about the girls as he asked Ghislaine to stop. Now understand we don't have the full context of Epstein's remarks, but [00:02:44] clearly he's saying that Trump was privy to the fact that minors were involved in some of these parties and get togethers. Now, former model Stacey Williams also spoke to the Times and said the following, that basically he thinks that, oh, hold on, [00:03:01] let me actually back up a little bit because there was a notable difference in the correspondences between Epstein and Trump versus Epstein and others, such as the times notes. With other men, Epstein might discuss tax shelters, international affairs or neuroscience. [00:03:18] Right with Trump. He talked about sex. And so former model Stacey Williams told The Times, that, quote, I just think it it was trophy hunting. And in recent years, Williams has accused Trump of groping her, [00:03:34] at the Trump Tower in 1993. Trump has denied the account. She also says, I think Jeffrey liked that he had his, he had this Sports Illustrated model who had this name and that Trump was pursuing me. And that was the other thing that really stood out in this piece. [00:03:50] Like Trump and Epstein were very close. You could tell that they were buddy buddy. However, they were also in constant competition with one another. There was a lot of jealousy, a lot of competing. So it was like more of a frenemies type situation. [00:04:07] But they were obviously close. They were hanging out all the time. Yeah. This is not in dispute. Look, the only people left doubting this are the, like, diehard, Trump heads. Right? And they think everything is fake news. The only person telling the truth is Donald Trump. [00:04:24] Their energy, prices went down, $10,000. Their drug prices went down 600%. Those are the only, remnants left that still believe this. I'm going to read the same quote I've read probably 100 times on the show. This is definitive, Trump said publicly in 2002. [00:04:42] I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It's even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. So did Donald Trump and Epstein hang out and try to have sex with young women? [00:04:58] And by young I don't mean underage, just young, overall attractive, etc. Definitely, definitely. If they were not underage, would it be a problem? Look, you could have different morality on that, but I it is what it is, and I really wouldn't care at all about it. Right? Yeah. And so did Trump go underaged? [00:05:15] Seems so far from what we know. All accounts are that he didn't. Except that one comment from Epstein in one of the emails where he says Trump is spending a couple hours with Virginia Giuffre at Epstein's house. So I don't know. I don't know if she was underage or over age at that time. [00:05:32] ET cetera. ET cetera. But, but in terms of did Trump know that Epstein was with young girls doing inappropriate things? Come on. Of course he knew. - Yeah, of course he knew. - I would I would bet money on that. Now, obviously we don't know without a shadow of a doubt, but that [00:05:49] email that Epstein wrote to Wolff, I think is a really important piece of evidence. Plus, if they're talking and hanging out constantly throughout the week, how do you not know that he's trafficking underage girls? And abusing them, by the way? And I want to go to graphic nine because there's one other very specific allegation [00:06:11] that we should know about. So Epstein was a frequent guest at Mar a Lago parties. Now, a woman who said Epstein trafficked her in the late 1990s and early 2000 recalled attending at least a half dozen of the parties beginning when she was just 17 years old and modeling during [00:06:30] the winter fashion season in Florida. Now, Epstein showed up at several of them and always seemed to know about Mar a Lago related parties and events, and the parties were open bar according to this woman's allegations. [00:06:46] No one checked IDs and that Trump was all over them. And then one of the women who has never before spoken publicly about the experience, told the times that Epstein had coerced her into attending for parties at his home. Trump attended. All for, the women, said. [00:07:03] At two of them, she said Epstein directed her to have sex with other male guests. So, there's, you know, very specific allegations being made. Then you have these email correspondences and while again, there's no smoking gun, there's no hard proof or evidence that Trump engaged [00:07:21] in any illegal actions with minors. There's still a lot here that shows he knew more than he's leading us to believe. And he was certainly way closer to Epstein than he wants us to know about. [00:07:36] So I've got more details, including the fact that Epstein, would clown on Trump's lack of business expertise. Apparently, Trump called him once because he needed he was broke and he needed, to borrow Epstein's plane. At least that's what Epstein told his assistant. [00:07:52] And his assistant relayed that information to the times. Yeah. I mean, look, it's not surprising that they weren't discussing neuroscience, that the only things they were discussing were, their sex lives, because that's all Trump thinks about, pretty much. And how. And Trump was constantly broke. Right. [00:08:09] Remember, he went bankrupt six times, whereas Epstein was flush with cash because he had that sweet Wexner money, and he had tons and tons of money being funneled to him through him and yes, by very, very pro-Israeli forces. [00:08:28] So and by the way, guys, think about it. So people need money. People want women. And who do they go to? They go to Epstein. Larry Summers does, Donald Trump does, so many others do. And then all of a sudden, Epstein has tremendous power over all those people. [00:08:45] And what does he use them for? As we saw in the emails, he uses it mainly to help Israel. So that's amazing. But I gotta say, on a lighter note here, I'm amused at how naive I was. I was gonna say when I was younger, but really, it's still pretty old, [00:09:01] because when I was younger and I saw these, like on TV, you see these parties of the rich and the famous, whatever. And it seems like there's all these gorgeous women, and you get rich and famous and you're gonna get gorgeous women. And I thought, that's because, yeah, it makes sense. Women are attracted to that. Whatever. No, half the time they're paying them. [00:09:19] - I know that. - Like these rich people parties. I've got no interest in them at all. Ever. Ever. Like, even if it's, like, totally. Okay. And there's nothing shady. Like, it's just that crowd is not appealing to me at all. [00:09:35] But I do want to just share one other thing and then move on to, some of the images that have been released by Democrats in the House Oversight Committee, never before seen images. So let's move over to graphic seven here, because there were some other allegations. [00:09:50] For instance, in November of 1993, Trump's chosen pageant contestants flew in from around the world for a week of events at his properties in New York and Atlantic City. At one point, Trump's former business partner Jill Harth said in her lawsuit [00:10:06] she she sued him for sexual assault, later dropped it and dated dated Trump, which is weird. But anyway, Trump demanded that she provide him with access to a 17 year old Czech contestant. So we don't know whether or not she complied [00:10:21] and gave Trump access to a 17 year old. And to be honest with you, just reading into Harth's background, I don't really find her to be, a believable person. I'm just going to put it out there. But nonetheless, that's what she claimed. [00:10:37] But so far, in terms of illegality, I haven't seen any of that in this piece. That's been proven. There are allegations that certainly would indicate, you know, he engaged in illegality, but they have to be proven in court. The one other thing that I'll mention is there was a lot of like, [00:10:53] gross discussion taking place, which I think is par for the course. I feel like you guys talk about nasty stuff like this behind the scenes. You tell me if I'm right or wrong. So, one example is, you know, Epstein would force his assistant [00:11:09] to listen to Trump, as he said, some pretty gross and degrading things about women he slept with. Because he enjoyed watching his assistant get uncomfortable. So he would put Trump on the speakerphone. And so the assistant this is graphic six remembered one call in the mid 1990s [00:11:25] in which the two men discussed how how much pubic hair a particular woman had and whether there was enough for Epstein to floss his teeth with. On another, Trump told Epstein about having sex with another woman on a pool table, which I have no problem with. That's totally fine. [00:11:41] But like, the weird pubic hair thing is, it's not. That's not for me. It's for other people. Yeah. I don't know how I got thrown under the bus here. But, like. Oh, you guys. What? How what am I doing? [00:11:56] It's, you. Know, the locker room talk, if you know what I mean. Yeah. No. Putting kidding aside, is there a locker room talk between guys? Of course. Right. Yeah. Is it about, like, discussing pubic hair that Clarence Thomas and Epstein and Trump apparently talk about? No, not to my knowledge. [00:12:13] But our stories exchange, stories are exchanged. That's normal. Every time you ring the bell below, an angel gets his wings. Totally not true. But it does keep you updated on our live shows.