Dec 10, 2025
Tucker Carlson, Theo Von UNLEASH On Israel
Theo Von didn't shy away from talking about Israel in his interview with Tucker Carlson.
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And you were.
You also got anti-Semite of the year
or you got did I win?
No I don't.
You also got nominated
for anti-Semite of the year.
I think it is immoral to judge people
on qualities they can't control
that they're born with.
I don't think that people are guilty
by virtue of their blood.
That's why I disagree
with the Netanyahu cabinet.
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They believe the Palestinians are subhuman
because they're Palestinian.
I know Anna, too.
They're not only are not anti-Semites,
they think anti-Semitism is immoral.
That's right.
Anti-semitism, just like racism,
just like sexism, just like homophobia,
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just like Islamophobia is wrong.
It is immoral.
We should be able to judge individuals
based on the behavior
that they themselves engage in.
But the idea of judging
an entire population of people based
on immutable traits is insane, immoral,
and I've always rejected that.
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And I'm happy to hear
that Tucker Carlson does as well.
Now, during this conversation
on Theo Von's podcast, there were a lot
of interesting points and I appreciated
Theo Von in particular because,
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look, Theo Von, I look at him as normy
when it comes to the political world.
He's not a politico.
He's not steeped, steeped in what we
talk about every day on this show
or any political show for that matter.
But his reaction to what's been
happening in Gaza, in the Middle East
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was very much real
and came from a place of vulnerability.
And I noticed that when he recently
had an appearance on Joe Rogan's show,
he wanted to talk about it.
He really wanted to, like,
flesh out what's going on.
And for whatever reason, I don't know why
Rogan didn't really want to get into that
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conversation at all and kept interrupting
and pivoting and whatever.
I was happy to see that he
was able to engage in this conversation
with Tucker Carlson,
and I think that there were moments worthy
of highlighting because of the candor,
because of what they were saying.
So it's especially important when it comes
to heavy topics like, you know, genocide.
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Let's take a look.
I think I was watching some of
the Gaza stuff and I kept thinking like,
well, surely America will come in
at some point and help.
- And stop.
- This, right?
- That was like my thought.
- Especially since we're not.
When you say genocide,
you're not guessing.
It's not like some propaganda term.
It's the definition.
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And we know that not just from the video
of its victims, but from the testimony
of the people perpetrating it.
Smotrich. Ben-Gvir.
Oh, look, we need to get them out.
- Let me see.
- These are people who are born there.
- I just want to see if.
- Oh. It's insane.
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It is insane.
And I'm so tired of being made out
to be the crazy one or the hateful one,
and, you know, the bigoted one.
Or the anti-Semite.
I'm not anti-Semitic at all.
No, I mean, most of the people
who are targeted as so-called anti-Semites
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right now are specifically being critical
of a foreign country.
And so when you claim
that it's anti-Semitic to be critical of
the IDF's actions in Gaza.
Of the Israeli settlers actions
in the West Bank.
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What you're essentially communicating to
the world is that engaging in barbarism,
engaging in mass slaughter, is part
of the Jewish identity, which it's not.
Okay.
The claim itself is disgusting
and anti-Semitic.
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And again, I mean, you're hearing
influential, powerful people
within the Israeli government just
flat out talking about mass extermination,
and we're just supposed to ignore that
and pretend like it doesn't exist.
So the two then went on to play a video of
Bezalel Smotrich gross genocidal speeches,
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at least one of them, its more recent one,
and they reacted to it.
So let's take a look at that.
The truth is, until the last hostage
returns, we shouldn't even give water
to the Gaza Strip.
For a year and a half,
we've been beating the hell out of Hamas.
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We're breaking Gaza apart,
leaving it as a pile of rubble with total,
unprecedented destruction in the world.
And the world still hasn't stopped us.
The aim is to achieve the one and only
required outcome the conquest of Gaza,
the annihilation of Hamas
and the return of all the hostages.
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In one word, victory.
So that's their view on it right there.
You know.
He's saying we're killing people
and leveling the country
in order to move the population out.
So how is that different from saying
there are certain people
in my capital city I don't want here?
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I'm going to put them on trains
and move them east.
There's no there's no difference.
People are being killed and expelled
from the place where they were born
because of their bloodline.
That in the world that I grew up in,
which is the United States of America.
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The main lesson,
the lesson of World War two, the reason we
fought against fascism was we reject that.
I thought that was a powerful moment
because of how much honestly
I resonated with it.
Because I think what's happened
over the last two years, just putting
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aside the carnage in the Middle East
and just focusing on the United States,
what we project about ourselves
on the globe or in the globe, I always
thought of our country as obviously
like our governments been flawed.
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We've always had issues.
There's there's no question.
We've never been a perfect country.
But I always thought that what we
were aspiring to as a country,
what what our Constitution provided us
in terms of recognizing humanity,
human rights, all of that.
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I thought, you know what?
That's what makes us stand out.
When I thought about our role in World
War Two, like that gives me so much pride.
You know, I see myself
as American first and foremost.
I'm very, very proud
of my Armenian heritage.
There's no question about that.
But I was born and raised here,
and I do have a stake in the game.
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As an American who cares about this
country, who wants this country to thrive,
who wants the people
of this country to thrive
regardless of their political identity?
Even if you despise me,
even if you're like on the far right
or even on the left, and you think I'm
a terrible person, I want you to thrive.
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People in this country should live good
lives, and they should have things in
their lives that they can look forward to.
And I think a lot of people
are struggling right now.
And what really bothers me
is that as there is so much suffering
in our own country,
our government time and time again has
shown us that we are on the back burner
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as they prioritize foreign policy
that does not benefit the American people.
And on top of that, I feel embarrassed
by what our government is greenlighting,
funding, arming and engaging in.
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That's not the identity
of the United States
that I was raised to believe we have.
Again, I am not at all belittling
or minimizing dark things that have
happened in this nation's history.
We have never been perfect, but I just
thought that we would be better than this.
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And I'm embarrassed.
I'm embarrassed by our leaders
bowing their heads to a foreign country
and to foreign leaders.
I'm embarrassed by how easily
they're bought and corrupted.
And I'm embarrassed that so many people
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just don't see Muslims as human.
I mean, like the dehumanization propaganda
toward Muslims in this country.
I didn't realize
just how effective it was.
And so I deluded myself into thinking,
well, if I just do more debates and I
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and I just try to inform people more,
maybe I change my style.
Maybe I change my tone, maybe I
find a different way to reach people.
It's just they need
to know the information.
I got to get them the information.
No, for some people, they know,
they know what's happening.
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And that is so hard for me to accept
because I think ultimately most
people are capable of of goodness.
But the propaganda
in this country runs deep.
And when an entire group of people
have been dehumanized
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and they just talk about Palestinians
as if they're animals out in the open,
not just in the Israeli government,
but I see it in the commentary
in American media time to time.
It just it disappoints me.
It makes me really sad.
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And I find it really embarrassing.
Finally, something that I think
is worth pointing out.
I'm really happy that Tucker Carlson
specifically called out the double
standard when it comes to hatred.
Let's take a look.
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All of a sudden, you've got people in the
United States, United States government.
You've got people in our media class.
They're all defending this
because they agree with it.
And then you see people jumping up
and being like, Muslims shouldn't
have jobs in the United States.
And it's like or in the US government,
it's like, how is that better than saying
Jews shouldn't have jobs
or Christians or Buddhists?
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It's all the same.
That kind of thinking is genocidal.
It leads to the genocide
we're watching right now in Gaza and to
many other genocides for the fifth time.
It's not just Israel.
It does this okay,
but this is what we're fighting against.
I could not agree more.
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Please don't fall prey to any ideology
that makes you think
an entire group of people, based
on their religion or their, you know,
their ethnicity,
their nationality, whatever it is,
don't ever let anyone convince you
to hate an entire group of people.
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Judge individuals
based on their own actions.
And there is that double standard.
So if you are offended
by genuine anti-Semitism as I am,
you should be just as offended at people
who engage in Islamophobic rhetoric,
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in racist rhetoric, in racist actions,
because human beings Should again
be treated as individuals,
but more importantly,
you should do it for yourself in terms
of rejecting that kind of ideology.
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Because I think one of the things that
Martin Luther King Jr said that resonated
the most with me, and I hope it resonated
with you all as well, is that hatred?
You should feel bad for people
who are taken over by hatred.
Like those are not happy people.
Those are pretty miserable people.
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So just keep that in mind.
I mean, I'm kind of preaching to the choir
because I know most people in my audience
are not into hating, you know, any
group of people based on their identity.
But I really appreciated that portion of
the conversation on Theo Vaughn's podcast.
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And I got to give a shout out
to Theo Vaughn,
because I can tell he's been really
wanting to, like, talk about this issue.
And Tucker Carlson gave him an
opportunity to do that in a way
that was open, honest, and candid.
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