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Sep 24, 2025

Why The ADC Is Calling On Soccer Leagues To Ban Israel

Abed Ayoub, National Executive Director of ADC talks to Cenk Uygur on The Young Turks.
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Arabs are getting slaughtered in Gaza. Over 65,000 dead at a bare minimum. The number of casualties is over 200,000. When you include the wounded, over 20,000 kids killed. And it appears that our politicians and our media goes. [00:00:15] So what? So what? They're just Arabs. So isn't the racism against Arabs 10,000 times more than the so-called anti-Semitism against their beloved Israel? You know, you are now seeing, you know, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene [00:00:30] meeting with Arab Christians and for the first time, understanding, like, wow, you know, there are Christians in Gaza that are impacted from the genocide. I'm trying to decide who's more racist. Corporate media, mainstream media, cable news, New York Times, Washington Post, etc.. Or, politicians. [00:00:46] Your eyes are not lying to you when you see, you know, children that have been killed, that have been mutilated, have been, you know, blown to pieces that that's not a fake image. You know, Donald Trump is kind of right when he calls it like the failing New York Times, or when he calls it like, you know, when he goes after these establishment papers and these legacy outlets, you know, [00:01:06] about how they're failing and if they've lost, you know, readership and viewership. He kind of has a point. And I think a lot of it has to do with their hypocrisy on this. So there's no question mainstream media is nearly 100% racist. Back on tight. We got a fun interview. [00:01:21] Well, an interesting interview for you guys right now. Abed Ayoub is the national executive director of the American-arab Anti-Discrimination Committee. And they're hosting Arab Con, by the way, in Dearborn, Michigan. Starting tomorrow. I'll be there. Arab con.org. Not a big deal. [00:01:38] I don't know why. It's not a big deal. It's going to be an interesting conversation. Actually, we got a panel with Ro Khanna about the reshaping of American politics. Anyways, I'll get back into that later. First, Abed, welcome. How are you doing? Good. Thank you. I appreciate you having me on. And we can make it a little fun. It'll definitely be interesting. [00:01:55] - So. Yeah. - Yeah. For sure. Okay. In a little bit, we're going to talk about how deeply racist, corporate media that's almost all mainstream media. And almost all of our politicians are against Arabs. We'll get to that in a second. But first, not a lot of people have heard of the ADC. [00:02:13] I mean, everybody's heard of the ADL, right? But part of the reason you guys don't get a lot of press is because the press is racist against you. But anyways, so tell us what, what the ADC is. ADC is the country's largest Arab American grassroots civil rights organization. [00:02:31] Where? 45 years old. We were founded by former US Senator James Abourezk. And if you've ever watched the film American Hustle, that that's what led to the creation of ADC. When the FBI went in, acting as, Arab oil sheiks and trying to buy off, politicians, [00:02:48] and they approached Senator and he realized right away something was wrong because these Sikhs said they were from, these checks, that they were from Lebanon and we don't have any oil in Lebanon. So something was wrong with their, with their plans. And that led to the creation of ADC. Ultimately. [00:03:04] And since then, we've been involved in a number of issues, you know, policy on the state level, federal level, and on the local level, working with Hollywood, working against, pushing the media against the narratives against us. So, we're there we've been around again 45 years, members in every state, [00:03:21] chapters across the country. You've definitely heard of the ADL. And we hope that you, you know, continue hearing about ADC, in the years to come. I actually think you should be the busiest man in America. So we're going to get to that. But part of, you being busy is not just Arab, not just fighting against all [00:03:37] that racism, but you guys got a new, idea. You're trying to kick Israel out of the European League and FIFA. You got a billboard. Let's show the billboard. This is what, in Times Square. Wow. Israel is committing genocide. Soccer federations boycott Israel. So tell us about that. [00:03:54] So this is a great campaign that we came up with, with a number of our partners in Europe. And, you know, the goal is to isolate Israel. I mean, the goal is to isolate the Zionist regime. And we saw this is not an original playbook, that we saw this in South Africa with the World Cup. We saw this happen numerous times prior. [00:04:11] We have to isolate them on the world stage. They shouldn't be allowed to participate in, in UEFA, in the European League, and they shouldn't be allowed to participate in the World Cup. And we decided to launch that campaign. It's very timely after the, you know, official ruling from the UN about genocide. [00:04:28] This is, the first step that these nations can take. So we put up the billboard. There's a number of actions happening, across Europe. People have been seeing the videos and the tweets and the reels, so it's gaining momentum. We're hoping that, official decision from UEFA is made sometime soon. [00:04:46] And then that leads to others as well, taking the same action against Israel. Yeah. For those who don't know, banning South Africa from the rugby leagues internationally made a huge difference in getting rid of apartheid. People love sports. You know something that folks are obsessed by. [00:05:04] The two things that make a difference usually in these kind of situations are business boycotts. That's why, the pro-Israel forces, get the most angry about business boycotts and say you're not allowed if you're an American, you're not allowed to have that opinion. You're not allowed to take that action. Don't you know you work for Israel? [00:05:22] There's First Amendment has an asterisk. Okay. So and now on soccer, I'm sure they're going to be very upset about that. So, since you're saying. They were very they were very upset. They. That's what I was going to ask you since since you're doing something that is nonviolent and peaceful and logical, it's what was done to defeat apartheid. [00:05:41] I'm sure that you've been a target of tremendous attacks. So tell us about that. There has been I mean, the, the Israeli government got involved directly with the owner of the, the building and the billboard demanded it be taken down. And, you know, unfortunately, the guy that owns the building, [00:05:58] you know, complied and forced it down, but it was up there for a few days. People got the message, and we anticipate that there's going to be targeting. There's going to be folks looking, you know, extra carefully at what we're doing and and who we are. But again, that's happened. And it ties into the theme of Arab content. [00:06:13] You know, we've been here before. This organization has been targeted. Our offices were bombed in 1985. Our staff members were killed by the Jewish Defense League. So we've gone through this, and we anticipate the the targeting will continue. Yeah. So, I mean, look, I mean, we just say it casually, like you had a perfectly normal, [00:06:34] benign boycott of a soccer league because of the massive discrimination in the occupied territories and a genocide that's going on. And they're like, yeah, shut up. - You're not allowed to say. - That in. America. Don't you know First Amendment has an Israel asterisks. They're just Is unreal. [00:06:50] So all right, now let's talk about the racism. Now, I mean, when you have anything that is slightly critical of Israel, you know what, the pro-Israel extremists in this country do? Anti-semite, anti-Semite, anti-Semite, fire them, cancel them, arrest them, etc.. [00:07:06] Right. We have congressional hearings if their feelings have been hurt. Meanwhile, Arabs are getting slaughtered in Gaza. Over 65,000 dead at a bare minimum. The number of casualties is over 200,000 when you include the wounded, [00:07:21] over 20,000 kids killed. And it appears that our politicians and our media goes, so what? So what? They're just Arabs. So isn't the racism against Arabs 10,000 times more than the so-called anti-Semitism against their beloved Israel? [00:07:38] Absolutely. I mean, the racism, the discrimination that we've been facing for decades in this country, it's real. And it does start from the media, like you're saying. It starts from the narrative they want to push and the positions they want to push, but we're starting to see that break a little bit. And I think the, you know, the one thing that you've done, you know [00:07:54] tremendously well is to show that there is a realignment, there are things changing. And many folks from the right and from the conservative side are starting to realize, oh, wait a minute. These attacks are not they're not real. There's nothing there. We were forced. We were made to to to hate these communities. [00:08:09] We were forced to hate Arabs. Forced to hate Muslims. We shouldn't have. You know, I tell a funny story. After Mahmoud Khalil was arrested, I got a call from the office of, from a guy in Texas, named Skip. You know, very older, white guy, heavy, you know, Texas accent. [00:08:25] He goes, you know, I hate you people, and I don't like you people, but you, you know, you have every right to say what you want. And he's like, son, you know why we have the Second Amendment? And I'm like, no, why? And he's like, well, to protect the first and I'll be at your office tomorrow morning if you need me. Right. So it's it's that type of mindset and mentality that we're starting to see [00:08:43] from, you know, all Americans waking up and realizing, you know what, Arabs? Muslims. They want the same thing. In this country, they're not as bad as the media is making them out to sea, you know, out to be not. That, in turn, is opening their eyes to what's happening in Gaza, opening their [00:08:59] eyes, what's happening in the genocide, and more most importantly, opening their eyes to the role the US government, their government has played, for the past decades in foreign policy in the Middle East. So it's a domino effect that's really accelerating, the change we're seeing [00:09:17] in on every on domestic issues and foreign policy issues, we are seeing more and more people realize, most of this country has been played in believing that we're the bad guy and believing that, you know, Muslims and Arabs need to be pushed. You know, they need to be isolated. [00:09:32] They need to be, pointed at and feared, which, you know, that's falling. That narrative is falling quickly. Yeah. And the media can't keep up with it. They're trying their best to prop it up. They can't keep up with it. So I was just at a caravan. That's Council on American-Islamic relations. [00:09:48] That's a muslim American civil rights group. I'm going to Arab Khan on Friday and Saturday. This Friday and Saturday, and that's an Arab group. Now, a lot of Americans, partly because of propaganda by mainstream media, pro-Israel propaganda, don't even know that there are. [00:10:03] Why are there two, two separate groups? Because Arabs are not just Muslims. Arabs are, first of all, a wide variety of religions. But the two major religions these days are Muslims and Christians. So how do you deal with that? [00:10:20] Is do, do you get a sense that that people know that well enough? Do you get a sense like. Because what's weird is, like, if Christians are attacked anywhere else of any other race, that's a big deal. In America, the press will go, oh my God, you know, these people killed Christians [00:10:38] and it's just horrific, etc. But are Christians being killed, Arab Christians being killed by Israel and Gaza and other places, and how and to what degree are there Arab Christians? Yeah, absolutely. Look, Arab Christians are being killed. They are being persecuted. And they have been being, you know, they have been persecuted in in Gaza [00:10:56] and throughout Palestine since, 1948. And, it's, it's horrible to see and it's very unfortunate. The, the understanding, the level of understanding that the American public has in our community is minimal. Like, they they don't, you know, a lot of them really don't understand [00:11:12] the difference between Arab and Muslim and that there are Arab Christians. But as I said, you know, a few minutes ago, that's starting to change. They are starting to, to to realize that. And, you know, you are now seeing, you know, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene meeting with Arab Christians and for the first time, [00:11:28] understanding, like, wow, you know, there are Christians in Gaza that are impacted from the genocide. So that, again, that narrative is shifting quickly. We have to do our part. And, you know, in this country, Arab Christians make up a majority of the Arab community. [00:11:46] The Arab community here is not a majority Muslim. It is majority Christian. And, you know, people got to realize that and understand that. And at the same time, you know, whether it's Care or ADC or any of the others, we work closely together. You know, the religion really doesn't matter. [00:12:01] We have the same guiding sets of principles that push our work and push us to the same objective at the end. So our organization is made up of Muslim, Christian, you know, Jewish people. So it's really based on a single principle of humanity and justice. [00:12:18] Yeah. And if you don't know, Jews had way more problems in Europe than they ever had in the Middle East. It's not to say that anything was perfect, but before 1948, there were tons of Arab Jews, along with Arab Christians and Arab Muslims, and they existed [00:12:36] and co-existed in, in relative peace, certainly compared to Europe. So, you know, as I was talking to at Kerr, I think that I'm seeing the same thing with Arab Americans here. I would I, I think that Arab Americans [00:12:55] are probably, along with Muslim Americans, the most in favor of American sovereignty, that you don't want a foreign government influencing our government. And no one is more incentivized to make sure that a foreign government [00:13:10] does not mess with the American government than Arab Americans. Is it fair to say that Arab Americans are at the very top of the list of people who care about American sovereignty? Absolutely. And in a way, it is. It's a very true statement. We want American sovereignty. [00:13:26] We don't want any foreign government meddling in our affairs. And we believe that America shouldn't be meddling in anybody else's affairs, overseas. And that kind of sounds like America first, you know, platform. We, you know, it's there. And that's the way the community thinks. [00:13:42] That's the way our community thinks. That's the way that a number of voters think. Now, when it comes to what the parties are putting out there, or how you know they're going in elections and the platforms, that's a different story. But we can sit down and say with a straight face that, yeah, we don't want the US involved in any foreign wars or any foreign meddling. [00:13:57] And at the same time, we don't want any foreign country meddling in our affairs here in this country, because a lot of that has happened to our home countries, to our countries. You know, where my father came from, Syria, or my mom came from Lebanon. Like that's been happening for for generations. We don't we don't want to see that here. [00:14:13] That that doesn't belong in the US and there's no room for it. And we would again rather see this country focus on, investing here at home, doing what we can for our communities here, and not, you know, propping up a genocidal regime or propping up these wars, overseas. [00:14:31] Yeah. So I'm trying to decide who's more racist, corporate media, mainstream media, cable news, New York Times, Washington Post, etc.. Or politicians. So let's start with media and then we'll have this fun contest to see which one is more racist. Okay, so the media says, 36, Jewish kids [00:14:52] killed in Israel on October 7th is the worst thing you could imagine. I agree, there's nothing wrong with that statement. Those poor kids, right? But 20,000 dead Palestinian Arab kids? Yeah. Who cares? I mean, we, like we just gave another $6 billion gift for more genocide in Israel. [00:15:13] Didn't make cable news at all. At all? There's 20,000 dead kids, 65,000 dead people. And it seems like cable news is saying to America, yeah, but they're Arab lives, so they're totally irrelevant. Whereas if you affected the feelings, forget the lives, [00:15:30] the feelings of people who support Israel, there'll be congressional hearings and we'll cover it 24 over seven, because that is, those are people whose lives matter and feelings matter. But you and all your Arab Americans, it appears that all of cable news [00:15:46] and all of mainstream media is telling you, yeah, we're racist. We don't think that your kids matter at all. Absolutely. It's it's that's exactly how it is. They're they're racist. They're pushing their own agenda, their own narrative. They're pushing these talking points. That again, is I think there there's a lot of pushback against them. [00:16:04] I don't think they're going to be able to do this and be taken seriously much longer. A lot of independent media sources, a lot of folks now on, you know, social media, a lot of people from Gaza telling their own story, their own narrative that's changed. That's changed the ball game a little bit. And and people now are seeing through their hypocrisy. [00:16:21] People, your eyes are not lying to you when you see, you know, children that have been killed, that have been mutilated, have been, you know, blown to pieces that that's not a fake image. You know, they can push the narrative that it's fake. They can try to do what they want. But so many people are seeing it in real time, that, [00:16:39] you know, they they just look racist. Like you're saying they look racist. They look like they don't value Arab lives. And they're pushing for, a genocide. And they're rewarding, you know, rewarding writers that push for, for for genocide, right? Like Barry Weiss and others. [00:16:55] It's they're they're in this little world of theirs. And what they're not realizing, at least, you know, I think that not many people take them seriously anymore. You know, Donald Trump is kind of right when he calls it, like the failing New York Times or when he calls it like the, you know, [00:17:10] when he goes after these establishment papers in these legacy, outlets, you know, about how they're failing and if they've lost, you know, readership and viewership. He kind of has a point. And I think a lot of it has to do with their, hypocrisy on this. Yeah. So, let's take one more example. Then we'll turn to the politicians. [00:17:28] So they say, there's a charter somewhere that hypothetically says that Israel should not exist. And now Israel does exist. It's a nuclear armed country. It has Iron dome. The only country in the world that has a system that protects it from other missiles. [00:17:44] We don't have it, but we gave it to them. So they have the defense, they have nukes. They have a military that is, bigger and and better than the rest of the Middle East combined. Right. In a sense, they're almost the safest country in the world. You almost have to do a stand down order in order to get attacked. [00:18:02] I wonder what happened there. Anyways. Okay, so they're super safe. They already exist. There's no threat to their existence at all. - But the media is obsessed with Israel. - Has a right to exist. Like, it'd be like if they came on air. They're like, Norway has a right to exist. Of course. [00:18:18] Yeah, yeah, Norway has a right to exist, and it exists. Why are we even talking about this? There's two people over there who think that Norway shouldn't exist. - This is the biggest issue. - But let me ask you something. Does Palestine exist? And do you see the same kind of emotion and anger and coverage [00:18:33] about the fact that Palestine. - Actually doesn't. - Exist. Or is all of corporate media, all of mainstream media, so racist that they think at 1% of a 1% chance that Israel might not exist a couple of hundred years from now is so. [00:18:49] Much more important because they're Israelis, they matter. Whereas you guys don't actually exist. And Israel is crushing you and occupying the Palestinians for 58 years and now committing a genocide and starving them to death. But who cares? We're never going to talk about the fact that Palestine doesn't exist. [00:19:06] Exactly. I mean, they like, look, first, you know, don't say that Israel has nukes. That's anti-Semitic. Right? You can't you can't say that's something that you can't you can't say on air. You might get fined for it. But the, this, this, this hypocritical view. You're absolutely right. [00:19:21] And it's not only Palestine, it's, you know, at one point, I think a month or two ago, Israel bombed three capital Arabs, you know, Arab cities, you know, they bombed Damascus, they bombed Sanaa, Yemen. They bombed Beirut all within the same day. How is that allowed to happen? How? [00:19:37] How are we just turning a blind eye to this country who committed a genocide? I mean, step back and look. They committed a genocide. Hundreds of thousands of people killed. Displaced. They made a complete ruins. Israel expanded its territory. They take over parts of Syria. They. [00:19:53] They take over parts of Lebanon. They're causing chaos everywhere. It's as if they were rewarded. And it's not just, you know, that the, the, the mainstream media and these outlets are turning a blind eye to genocide. They're they're allowing it to continue and grow and rewarding this country [00:20:11] by not even looking at these issues and the fact that they're bombing, again, bombing these, these cities, bombing all these countries. It's as if nothing, you know, normal the way they bombed Doha. The other, you know, a couple of weeks ago, perfect example as well. Yeah. [00:20:26] So look, we've now established that every reporter at the New York Times and every so-called reporter, do they have any reporters, anchors as CNN pundits, etc.? They're all 100% and indisputably racist because they make it appear [00:20:43] that Israel's right to exist is a bigger issue than Palestine's right to exist, when Palestine doesn't actually exist, and Israel is one of the safest countries in the world. So the fact that they are perverting reality, they're the exact opposite of objective. And why they do it because they hate Arabs and they think, [00:21:00] who cares if Arabs don't exist? They're not real people. Who cares if their children are murdered? They're not that important. They're not Israeli children. So there's no question mainstream media is nearly 100% racist. So now we turn to the politicians because this is a tough contest. You know, I don't know if they're both going to wind up at 100%. [00:21:18] So they had congressional hearings about anti-Semitism. Okay, that's great news for you guys because Arabs are Semites and my God is racism against Arabs. First of all, they should have brought in the publisher of the New York Times and the head of CNN and MSNBC, etc., to those congressional hearings. [00:21:36] But okay, let's put that aside. I mean, people are yelling at Arabs all the time, calling them terrorists, this, that and the other thing. College campus. Oh my God, I bet an Arabs never had any problems on a college campus. So did Stefanik and the Republicans, but all of Congress. Did they invite you guys as part of their anti-Semitism hearings? [00:21:56] Absolutely not. Absolutely not. And right. It makes you wonder. I mean, it's it's mind boggling. And look, by the way, we're the organization that filed complaints on behalf of Jewish students at a University of New York who were facing real antisemitism. Right. [00:22:12] ADC has defended Jewish students facing anti-Semitism, so we don't shy away from it when we see it. We're going to call it out. We're going to work with the students and we're going to work those that are impacted by it. And, you know, by real anti-Semitism, you have these students that were standing up for Palestine and targeted by the ADL and others because they're not Jewish enough [00:22:30] or they're not, you know, Zionist enough. That's what we're starting to see, that backfire. But, you know, with these lawmakers are reaching out to us. They won't reach out to us. And they don't want to know the truth. They're you know, they're buying the ADL talking points. They're buying the ADL language. [00:22:46] Look at the the bills coming out of California SB 715 and SB 771 that finds social media companies if their algorithm pushes out hate. You know, it's a workaround to section 230. And all of this is based on silencing criticism, silencing any talk about Israel [00:23:03] and the genocide, and labeling it anti-Semitism. I mean, this is it's this is the route they're going. And it's infringing on our rights as Americans. It's taking away your First Amendment right to say, to critique a country, to [00:23:19] critique a foreign government, all because they want to prop up, you know, Netanyahu in Israel and the Zionist regime. Yeah. So Jewish students and Arab students who are fighting for peace, [00:23:34] who are viciously slandered, attacked, etc., by pro-Israel zealots not invited to hearings about anti-Semitism, even though they're all Semites. The Jews and the Arabs are the only people who are invited, are the pro-Israel guys, [00:23:50] and they also smear other Jewish students for peace. Right. Yeah, right. But, I mean, their feelings are the only ones that matter, right? It's we got to make sure that, you know, these pro-Israel zealots are safe on campus and their feelings aren't hurt. God forbid, if their feelings are hurt. [00:24:05] We got to dismantle student groups. We gotta dismantle activism. We've got to silence everybody and send in the National Guard because, you know, a little kid at Columbia's feelings got hurt. I mean, that's that's just the way it's playing out. So, so far in the middle of this genocide, we've sent Israel a minimum of $24 billion [00:24:25] as a thank you note. Hey, way to kill all those Arab kids. Attaboy. - Murder more Arabs. - Says our Congress. And they just did it again. Trump just said all of our politics. Trump just sent him $6 billion. More like keep slaughtering, keep slaughtering their Arabs. [00:24:41] Their their lives don't matter at all right now. Do you think that it's because Trump, Biden, and 90% of Congress have take money from the Israeli lobby? So they're not actually racist, they're just deeply corrupt. [00:24:57] And they'll work for anyone, including a foreign government, if they're paid and they're basically prostitutes, or they hate Arabs so much because they're so naturally, deeply racist against Arabs that they think, yeah, let's pay Israel to slaughter more Arabs. [00:25:13] Which one do you think it is. Dan? That that's a good question. Look, to be real, that's a good question. Now, I've had the opportunity to sit with some of the Republican lawmakers like Congressman Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene, and even to even Matt [00:25:28] Gaetz, who's out of Congress now. But genuinely, when they start learning about the issue, when they start understanding, you can see their positions change. You can see their eyes open up. But then I asked myself, I mean, you were elected to Congress. There's no way you didn't know this information. There's no way this wasn't available. [00:25:44] Like everything is out there now. It's easy to learn. It's easy to catch up on it. I do believe a good sizable percentage of Congress do hate us. They do hate Arabs. They do hate Muslims on both the left and right. I don't think it's a Republican or a Democrat thing. [00:26:00] I think you're going to find some a lot of bipartisanship on this one issue of hating us and those folks. I mean, it needs a miracle. They need to be voted out. But I do think you have a, a good amount of of individuals that can be swayed and that can be shown, who we are and can't start taking positions, against genocide. [00:26:20] And we're reaching that point where whether whether they're doing it because it's an America First agenda or because they, you know, for whatever reason, as long as we're getting to the same ends, I think there is that opportunity there, to change that narrative. And if you look at how close, Congress is in the House and the votes, if we can get [00:26:38] 10 to 15 Republicans to change their mind, and if we can get a complete overhaul of the Democratic Party top to bottom, we should be in good shape. That's a lot of ifs, brother. Okay. - I mean, I wish you. - Luck. I know exactly it's a lot and it's a lot. [00:26:55] But that's why we have to focus on, again, state level, local level activism in this way. And you're right. Marcy and Marjorie Taylor Greene have been great on this issue. So it's not a Republican or Democrat thing. Joe Biden was a disaster. He gave three times as much as Trump has. Trump is giving a bigger green light to massacres, but Biden gave more money [00:27:14] to massacres and genocide. So both parties are atrocious on this. And, you know, I can go on and on about how Congress is deeply racist against Arabs and bigoted against Muslims. That's obvious. But by the way, there's also good Democrats on this. [00:27:29] Bernie Sanders and Jamie Raskin and others who are. Ro Khanna has been great on it now pushing back against funding Israel. All right. But, one last thing here. So Arab con is happening over the next couple of days. So Arab con.org is the website. What is Arab con. [00:27:47] It's an opportunity for our community to come together to, you know, talk about our issues, to celebrate the culture, the heritage at the same time, and to organize and mobilize. You know, we haven't had a space, where, you know, we meet outside of Washington, DC, where collectively as a community where we can hear [00:28:04] from folks like yourself and others. It's open to everybody, not just Arabs, and an opportunity to build on our commonalities, to build on our strategy and for us to prepare for the midterms, coming up in 2026. So we are trying to get ahead of that. And again, if folks are in Michigan, if folks are coming out here, [00:28:22] we'd love to see you out here and register for the, you know, for the weekend. So, we're not there's no, we're not getting paid at all or anything like that, but I'm going to give a promo code of tight for anybody watching this. Like, thank you for watching the interview and caring about these things. [00:28:38] You'll get 20% off if you use the code tight to go to. What's that. - Tight 20. Oh, sorry. - Tight 20. See, I gotta get that right. Anyways, at ABC.com dot org. But again we're not getting paid for it. It's just to get the other point of view out there. [00:28:55] Last thing is, who else is going? Oh, my God. We got, we got Mahmoud Khalil Taha. We got, a lot of, Professor Khalid Baydoun. We got Amy Greer. [00:29:11] - She's coming or. - No. Mehdi Hassan is coming. Sorry. Yeah, I blanked out. Mehdi Matthew. Hassan's coming. Bassem. Youssef's coming. Thank you for that. It's been a long week. Yes. Coming, coming. We're doing a good, showing of, watermelon pictures. We have a representative from the Kingdom of Spain coming. [00:29:28] We're recognizing Spain tomorrow evening for their efforts. What they've been doing. So it's going to be a great program, you know, all around from Thursday through Sunday. Yeah. And look, I, like I said, I was just at the caravan and Mahmoud Halil got an award there, spoke there. And but he's not the only one who was taken as a political prisoner. [00:29:44] Other political prisoners also spoke out at that event. And it was really powerful stories you have not heard. It's so frightening that there are political prisoners inside America now, and they're not even taken on our behalf. They're taking on behalf of another country. It's insanity. Total insanity. [00:30:00] All right. Ayoub, ahead of the Arab American, American-arab Anti-Discrimination Committee. Thank you for joining us, brother. We appreciate it. Thank you, thank you. 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