Sep 17, 2025
Kash Patel Keeps CRASHING OUT
Rep. Thomas Massie confronted FBI Directer Kash Patel over his failure to release names from the Epstein files.
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These documents in FBI possession.
Your possession detail.
At least 20 men, including Mr.
Jess Staley, CEO of Barclays Bank,
who Jeffrey Epstein trafficked victims
to victims including minors
such as Virginia Roberts Giuffre.
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- May she rest in peace.
- Yeah, you just heard that.
That was Congressman Thomas Massie
grilling FBI Director Kash Patel
on the second day of the hearing,
where he's essentially testifying
and answering questions
before the Senate Judiciary Committee.
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Actually, no, that was
Congressman Thomas Massie.
So this is not the Senate
Judiciary Committee, I guess.
Now he's testifying
before members of the House.
And I'm glad he's doing that
because Thomas Massie came prepared.
He had a line of questioning
that I found worthy of highlighting.
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And then, more importantly,
I think that Massie managed to catch catch
Kash Patel in multiple inconsistencies.
So we're going to show you that.
But you just saw him name names.
He just named someone who,
according to the documents and allegedly,
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according to Thomas Massie,
was one of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.
So that's pretty amazing.
He's been willing to name names.
He said, you know,
if the Epstein files are never released,
the victims of Epstein's are willing to
share the names with him, and he will
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basically make those names public.
But I want you to hear more
of what Thomas Massie had to say in his,
you know, in the lead up to his question
to FBI Director Kash Patel.
Take a look at this.
I watched some of your Senate hearing
yesterday when Senator Kennedy asked you,
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you've seen most of the files
who, if anyone, did Epstein
traffic these women to besides himself.
You replied, according to the transcript,
there is no credible information
that he trafficked them to anyone else.
You also said somewhere in the hearing
and here today, that the problem is
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that the case files are constrained by
limited search warrants from 2006 to 2007,
and that the Non-prosecution agreement
hamstrung future investigations.
Those constraints only apply
to Southern District of Florida.
They do not apply
to Southern District of New York.
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The location of the 2019 sex trafficking
indictment, which produced many things,
including a series of 5302 documents
according to victims who cooperated
with the FBI in that investigation.
These documents in FBI possession,
your possession detail at least 20 men,
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including Mr. Jess Staley,
CEO of Barclays Bank,
who Jeffrey Epstein trafficked victims to.
Okay, so we're going to get
to Jess Staley in just a moment.
We're going to talk about who he is
and what his relationship was
with Jeffrey Epstein,
because naming names is a big deal.
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And Thomas Massie, now on the second
occasion, has been willing to do that.
Before we get to that, though,
we got to give Massie credit for calling
Kash Patel out for the lie that he told
when he was testifying before the Senate
Judiciary Committee just yesterday.
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He essentially claimed, you know,
there's nothing we can do at this point.
The investigation is over.
He made it seem as though, as FBI
director, at this point, he's hamstrung.
There's nothing he can do.
You can't open investigations
into Jeffrey Epstein's clients.
But obviously Thomas Massie
just proved that is not the case.
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So what's going on here?
Why are you refusing
to not only release the Epstein files,
which I think the American people
should obviously have access to?
There should be transparency
by our government.
But more importantly,
if you know that there are Epstein clients
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and these 302 documents list them,
why aren't you opening investigations
into these clients who victimized miners.
So I thought that was a telling moment,
to say the least.
Now, let's talk a little bit about
Jess Staley, who's one of the 20 people
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that Thomas Massie is referring to
from these 302 documents.
So basically, the 302 documents
for those who don't know, are basically,
like the testimony that the victim shared
through the investigation.
It's a summary of all of that info, right.
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So he has those 302 documents.
And so who is Jess Staley?
Well, he did have a long running
relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
In 1999, Staley was the chief executive
for JP morgan's private bank.
And he was also part of a team
that managed money and investments
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for Jeffrey Epstein, with whom he quickly
developed what is referred to
as a fairly close personal relationship.
And it was a close relationship.
He went to the Jeffrey Epstein Island,
vacationed with him,
alleged that he went on family vacations.
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I don't know if I believe that,
but here's what else we know.
Staley was soon holidaying
on Epstein's private island, flying on his
private plane and gaining access
to an impressive portfolio of ministers,
entrepreneurs and royalty.
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The relationship ended up bolstering
Staley's profile on Wall Street
and even connecting his daughter to
senior figures at Ivy League universities.
So you kind of get a sense of how things
work for the insiders, right?
Now, that relationship, though,
also eventually ended up
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destroying Staley's career.
Why is that?
Well, in July of 2019, Epstein was
arrested on child sex trafficking charges,
accused of sexually exploiting
and abusing dozens of girls at homes
in Manhattan and Palm Beach, Florida.
Some victims were as young as 14, U.S.
Prosecutors alleged.
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So that drew attention
to Epstein's friends, including Staley.
By the time Staley, by the time
that this happened, right by the time
the 2019 arrest of Epstein occurred.
At that point, Staley is the chief
executive over at Barclays.
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He had moved on,
and so Barclays told the Financial Conduct
Authority in October of 2019
that the pair did not have a close
relationship and were last in contact
well before Staley took over
as chief executive four years earlier.
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That was not true.
That was a lie, a total lie.
A subsequent FCA investigation, involving
102,000 emails from JP Morgan convinced
the regulator it had been misled.
It alleged that the pair
were indeed close friends
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and stayed in touch via Staley's daughter
for years after he joined Barclays.
Now, keep in mind,
I mean, this was the second time
Jeffrey Epstein had been arrested.
The first time was in 2006.
So homeboy is still gallivanting around
town, having a close personal relationship
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with Jeffrey Epstein
after he was arrested for the first time.
So he did stay in touch with Epstein
after he was arrested in 2006.
He even emailed Epstein.
And apparently there's evidence of this
in 2008 to ask for financial advice.
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This is during
the economic collapse in 2008.
And so he was looking for, you know,
Jeffrey Epstein's consulting,
I guess, in how to get through it.
And since he lied to authorities
about the nature of his relationship
with Jeffrey Epstein, Staley was
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And banned from holding senior management
roles in the city in 2023,
leading to him losing
about 18 million pounds worth of pay.
This was a piece that was published
in The Guardian, which is why they're
using pounds as opposed to dollars.
Now, later in the hearing,
Thomas Massie asked Patel about
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the clients who were later identified
by victims in the 302 files.
So again, the 302 files refer to,
FBI form FD 302 documents used by agents
to summarize interviews with victims,
witnesses and suspects.
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So that's what he's referring to.
And he has that documentation
and he wants to ask Kash Patel about it.
Let's take a look
at what Kash Patel has to say.
That list also includes at least 19
other individuals one Hollywood producer
worth a few hundred million dollars,
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one royal prince, one high profile
individual in the music industry,
one very prominent banker.
One high profile government official,
one high profile former politician,
one owner of a car company in Italy,
one rock star, one magician.
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At least six billionaires,
including a billionaire from Canada.
We know these people exist in the FBI
files, the files that you control.
I don't know exactly who they are,
but the FBI does.
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That's fascinating.
So there you have Thomas Massie again,
in possession of the 302 files,
its descriptions of the clients.
So, again, obviously, through this line
of questioning, Thomas Massie has caught
the FBI director in yet another lie.
Because what was the initial lie
that kind of snowballed into the mess
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that the Trump administration
is currently dealing with?
Well, they promised to release the Epstein
files, and then out of nowhere,
you have a statement
coming from the Trump administration
alleging there is no client list.
There were no clients.
There's nothing to see here.
That was a lie.
That was very clearly a deception
by the Trump administration
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to the American people.
And it's pretty gross.
So what does Kash Patel
have to say about that?
Have you launched any investigations
into any of these people,
and have you seen these 302 documents?
Sir, I have.
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Asked my FBI agents to review
the entirety of the Epstein files
and bring forth any credible information.
And we're working with Congress
not only to divulge that information
and produce it to you,
but any investigations that arise from any
credible investigation will be brought.
There have been no
new materials brought to me.
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Launching a new indictment.
That did not in any way
satisfy Congressman Massie.
He kept pushing.
And this is where I believe
Kash Patel gets caught
in yet another inconsistency, another lie.
Take a look.
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So is is the loophole here,
or is it your assertion that these victims
aren't credible, that the 300 and twos
maybe didn't produce credible statements
that rise to a probable cause?
It's not my assertion, sir.
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It's the assertion of two different United
States Attorney's offices from three
separate administrations who investigated
those same materials in lifetime.
The 302 documents in the FBI's possession.
They reviewed all that? Yes, sir.
And and so, have you reviewed those
302 documents that were the victims?
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Name the people who victimized them?
If I personally. No, but the FBI has.
So how can you sit here and and in front
of the Senate and say there are no names.
- I said.
- All named one today.
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I said, we are not in the we are not in
the practice of the Department of Justice,
FBI, of releasing victims names.
That is not what we do.
We are also not in the habit
of releasing incredible information.
That's not what we do.
But multiple authorities have looked
at the entirety of what we have.
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You have to admit,
that moment was incredible.
What would Kash Patel, prior
to entering the Trump administration,
have to say to anyone else?
The previous FBI director
making the same argument
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before the House Judiciary Committee.
Oh, he would definitely excoriate
that person, accuse them of being part of
a cover up, because that's what this is.
It's a cover up. How do you say that?
There there were no clients
when you haven't.
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I mean, he just admitted right there
that he hasn't reviewed the documents
that previous administrations let
me get the exact wording that he used.
He basically places the onus
on two different U.S.
Attorneys offices
across three previous administrations.
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Okay.
But your FBI director,
why don't you review the alleged
coconspirators of Jeffrey Epstein's.
Why don't you consider
bringing charges forward?
And more importantly, what's stopping you?
What's stopping you?
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Man. Kash Patel is not good at this.
We used to have more sophisticated liars
in the administration, you know.
And that's the thing.
We're really having
a competency problem in this country,
even when it comes to federal liars.
And I guess that's a good thing,
at least for the American people, because
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now we can actually see it happening
in real time when we're being deceived.
But that's what's happening here.
And for whatever you might think
about Thomas Massey's libertarianism and
his stances on other political policies,
you've got to hand him a lot of credit
for demanding justice for Jeffrey
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Epstein's victims and wanting transparency
on behalf of the American people.
That's what a leader does.
And he deserves respect for that.
I respect him for doing this.
His line of questioning to me went
beyond the usual typical political theater
that we can see during these hearings.
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He wants answers, and he's holding
Kash Patel's feet to the fire.
Now, at this point,
what remains a mystery to me is whether
the expression on on Kash Patel's face.
You know, that constant bug
eyed look of shock and fear?
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If it's just like his main line, you know,
facial expression, or if he's really
panicking because if he's not, he should.
He's been outed as a fake, as a phony,
as someone who's engaging in a cover up.
And I think it's wrong.
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