Sep 4, 2025
RFK Jr. Faces BRUTAL Grilling After Firing CDC Director
Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. struggled to defend his firing of CDC Director Susan Monarez.
- 17 minutes
And I'm telling you, the American Heart
Association has been co-opted by the food.
Everybody. But you said it.
But you know what?
When you ran for president,
you received $300,000 from people,
not from the industry.
People,
as I did from individuals you corrupt.
- You're the secretary of.
- Health and Human Services.
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You don't have any idea
how many Americans died from Covid.
This is the same person that less than
a month earlier, you stood next to her
and described her as unimpeachable,
and you had full confidence in her
and that you had full confidence
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in her scientific credentials.
And in a month, she became a liar.
Well, that was Health and Human
Services Secretary, RFK Jr
and a whole bunch of senators
during an oversight hearing today.
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But while our elected officials
are absolutely furious with RFK Jr,
there is some pretty stunning polling
that has revealed that RFK Jr
is actually the most popular member
of the Trump administration,
which, to be quite frank, is a low bar.
And we'll show you what we mean by that.
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But before we do, I think it's
important to talk a little bit
about the context here
and what has happened over at the CDC,
because RFK Jr has, in fact,
been under scrutiny after he ousted
a woman by the name of Susan Menard
as the director of the CDC.
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He did so last week.
Now, today, she published an op ed for
the Wall Street Journal, of all places,
explaining her side of the story,
writing that reporters have focused
on the August 25th meeting where my boss,
Health and Human Services Secretary
Robert F Kennedy Jr, pressured me
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to resign or face termination.
One of the troubling directives
from the meeting more than a week ago,
I was told to pre-approve
the recommendations of a vaccine advisory
panel newly filled with people who have
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publicly expressed anti-vaccine rhetoric.
Vaccines have saved millions of lives
under administrations of both parties.
Parents deserve a CDC that they can trust
to put children above politics, evidence
above ideology and facts above fear.
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I was fired for holding that line.
Now, RFK Jr has denied
having conversations with her.
Basically pressuring her to resign.
Says that he never
even met with her privately.
I, I don't know why.
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Why else would she resign
out of nowhere like that?
- Doesn't make any sense.
- No, of course he's lying.
This is not a close call.
So, look, RFK Jr could have done
some good in the world.
Yeah. It's true.
He could have come in, and he has
this anti-establishment credibility,
you know, still to this day,
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that allows him to pull a little bit
better than the rest of the Trump
administration, which, again,
we're going to show you in a minute.
And he could have used it
to go after, Big Pharma.
He could have said, hey, why are we
not allowed to negotiate drug prices?
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If he got to a point where he could
negotiate drug prices on behalf
of Medicare, he would save Americans
trillions of dollars and he would be a
hero, and they would build statues of him.
Right.
Let alone taking on the big, big food
is another giant lobbying group,
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believe it or not, in in Washington.
And high fructose corn sirup.
Why do we have that?
That makes us much more obese
than any other country.
And it's because of farm subsidies.
If he tackled those things,
he could have been super popular.
There's a lot that we don't trust
about the drug companies in this country.
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But instead he decided
to go on his own personal crusade.
Okay, fine.
You want to go on a crusade
about anti-vaccine?
First of all, obviously you lied
during your confirmation hearings,
but anyone who isn't an idiot knew you
were lying and that you were going to go
on an anti-vaccine crusade.
And you are now. Okay, that's all fine.
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But then you've been asking
for an opportunity
to prove your case this entire time.
Now you're the in the cabinet.
You're the head of health
and Human services.
Prove your case.
This is not proving your case.
This is the exact opposite.
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I brought in a bunch of quacks. Now.
Real scientists, real doctor.
You have to say that they're right,
but they're not right.
Okay, then have them remember
how RFK Jr. Wanted a debate on this?
Then have them do a debate.
Have them present evidence.
But you didn't ask for any evidence.
Instead, once she objected
to their quackery.
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Boom! You're fired!
Get out of here. Right.
So you were never interested in evidence.
You were never interested
in holding anyone accountable.
You were just on your
stupid own personal crusade.
Yeah, exactly.
You know, I'm actually going to want to go
to the Elizabeth Warren video,
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so let's grab that.
But before we do, I'm going to go
to the Bernie Sanders video.
Now, I just want to note
that the pressure that RFK Jr is facing,
the criticism, the backlash isn't simply
coming from Democratic senators.
It's also coming from Republican senators.
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In fact, I'm going to read you
a few of their quotes,
starting with Senator Thom Tillis,
Republican from North Carolina, who says,
I need to know why his words
in his confirmation hearing
aren't matching up with some of the deeds
which, to be fair to RFK Jr,
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is consistent with most appointees
and people who've been nominated.
Senators and the media.
Stop pretending that anyone is telling
the truth during confirmation hearings.
Lie there.
Left. Right.
Democrat. Republican.
Doesn't matter.
They're all lie to get confirmed.
I don't believe a word that they say 100%.
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Now, Senator John Kennedy also weighed
in saying, I want the chaos to stop.
You can't have the institution
of public health in turmoil.
Well, I've I've got news for you.
Turns out that the entirety
of our government right now is chaos.
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The country is chaos right now.
Okay, so with that in mind,
let's go to some highlights or lowlights,
however you want to refer to them.
In this in this hearing
that happened today,
I want to start off with Senator Sanders
because the topic of corruption came up.
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And I think that's an important topic.
And I think my opinion
of how this all went down,
this exchange might surprise you.
So let's take a look.
There's a big difference, Senator,
between established science
and the scientific establishment, which
has been co-opted by the pharmaceutical.
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So you're telling me, you're telling
the American people that the
American Medical Association, representing
hundreds of thousands of people,
have been co-opted and that they should
not trust their doctors and the American
Academy of Pediatrics, the American.
And by the way, just for the record,
every single Republican
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I don't mean to be political here,
Mr. Chairman has received PAC money
from the pharmaceutical industry.
Are they all corrupt as well?
And I'm telling you,
the American Heart Association
has been co-opted by everybody.
But you said it. But you know what?
When you ran for president, you know,
we have a corrupt campaign finance system.
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Maybe you will agree with me on that.
Okay. You ready?
President,
you got a billionaire behind it.
You received $300,000 from people,
not from the industry.
People,
as I did from individuals you corrupt.
President Trump got $3 million.
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So there's a lot I like about
what Senator Sanders is saying there,
because I agree with the points
he's making about corruption.
However, there's a weird inconsistency in
his rant that I don't really understand.
There is a problem
with our medical system being corrupted.
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And what I mean by that is, I mean,
we just had the opioid epidemic.
The opioid epidemic.
For that to even happen
relied on the Sackler family, right.
The pharmaceutical companies, you know,
engaging in corruption with the doctors.
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Yeah.
So so, yeah, there is a problem.
Look, there's a lot of distrust.
There is there is a lot of distrust
toward the vaccines.
There's a lot of distrust toward doctors
and our entire the entirety
of our health care system.
And it's I actually feel a lot
of empathy for Americans
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because how can you trust it?
There is corruption.
This is what happens
with money in politics.
This is what happens
when you allow corruption to fester
in every single governmental institution
in in every institution, period.
You don't know what to trust.
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And so I, I don't know I don't know
what the solution is here, Jake, because I
don't blame Americans for how they feel.
But at the same time, if you don't
vaccinate your kids when it comes
to really important vaccines, whether it's
measles, polio, stuff like that,
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you are putting your child at risk.
You are bringing back these illnesses
that we had eradicated.
So look, Bernie did a great job
of challenging him.
But yeah, there was some conflicting stuff
in there, and I know why he's doing it,
because last time RFK Jr challenged him
about the money that he took
from the health care industry
and a lot of right wingers etc.
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Went nuts about that.
But he didn't take it from corporate PACs.
He didn't take it from the industry.
What he was pointing out
is he took it from people who happened
to be employed in health care.
Same thing for RFK Jr.
RFK Jr was not corrupted in that.
And that was part of the point
that Bernie was making.
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He's right about that because those were
individual donors that happened to work
in that industry, not executives,
not PACs, etc., but for both of them, for
Bernie and RFK Jr. Now, having said that,
he went too far when he started saying
about all the Republican senators,
the Republican senators
that do take money from the oil industry
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and the corporate PACs, by the way, also,
the Democratic senators are guilty.
They are corrupt. Right.
So and that gets to the fundamental
frustration here that a lot of us feel,
which is that if you say, hey,
our institutions are lying to us overall,
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you are correct.
And all of the politicians
and all the media say, oh, no, no, no, no,
our institutions are great.
They would never lie to you.
That did not come
from the Wuhan lab virology lab.
It came right outside its door from a
penguin or a pangolin or a tiger or bear.
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Lies so many lies
during the pandemic, guys.
We all know it now, right?
And and so when I don't like people want
to get mad at parents
who are, like, scared of vaccines now,
but don't get mad at them.
Get mad at how corrupt our system is
to the point where people
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don't know what to trust.
And they're they're thinking about their
literal children and what's best for them.
They're not like,
conspiring to get people sick.
Yeah, there's something broken
in our country and that needs to be fixed.
So that one extreme is the establishment
saying nothing to see here.
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The drug companies are angels,
the government is angels,
the politicians are angels.
All the money they're exchanging
is just for fun.
Okay.
That's absurd. Extreme.
Okay. That's what the powerful say.
Now, on the other hand, RFK Jr at this
point is saying almost all the doctors in
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the country and almost all the scientists
in the country are all lying in mass.
But that doesn't make sense.
If you show me doctors that went
to a junket and then pushed opioids.
Yeah, I see that corruption.
They bring him to Vegas, they're bringing
him on trips, you see money exchanged.
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That is clear, right?
But why would a rando doctor
in the middle of Iowa or Nebraska
or Hawaii, but not just 1 or 2 of them,
but all of them, right.
All be part of a global doctor conspiracy.
Now, that makes no sense at all.
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So when he attacks
the entire American Medical Association,
including all the doctors in it.
No, that's conspiratorial junk.
And so, look, we've already had
a little bit of a measles outbreak.
I'm not minimizing it.
It's already terrible.
But it's not.
It's not it's not
thousands of people, right?
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If you keep messing around with vaccines,
at some point
something's going to break out, okay.
And then we're not going to be able
to reel it back in easily or quickly,
and then you got another disaster
on your hands.
And then again, it's man made.
There was no need for it.
Like the famine in Gaza
is not a natural famine.
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It's man made, right.
This is going to be another
man made disaster
because of politics and kookiness.
When if they just actually took
on the establishment
and they actually if RFK Jr came out
with a little like presentation and said,
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here's how much money
that Democratic senator and that
Republican senator took from Big Pharma.
And that's why we can't negotiate
drug prices or that's
why they're doing this or that wrong.
He'd be a rock star. 100% Washington would
hate him and the country would love him.
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But he's not doing that.
Instead, he's doing his
own personal weirdo stuff.
So I do want to go to this exchange
with Senator Elizabeth Warren,
because she does call him out
on changing the recommendation for the
Covid booster shots and the Covid vaccine.
So let's take a quick look at that.
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Last week, you announced the Covid 19
vaccine is no longer approved for healthy
people under the age of 65. In announcing
the change, you said the vaccine will
be available for anyone who wants it.
Now, obviously, both things
cannot be true at the same moment.
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Will you tell America that all adults
and all children over six months of age
are eligible to get a Covid booster
at their local pharmacy today?
Anybody can get the booster.
- I'm sorry.
- Anybody can get it.
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Anybody.
So you're saying that is now the official
rule of who anybody is eligible to get a
booster by just walking into the pharmacy?
- It's not recommended for healthy people.
- No, no.
If you don't recommend,
then the consequence of that
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in many states is that you can't walk
into a pharmacy and get one.
It means insurance companies don't have
to cover the $200 $100 or so cost.
We're not going to recommend a product
for which there's no clinical data
for that indication,
which is that what I should be doing?
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Okay.
So look, I think that the questions
Senator Warren was asking there
were important I didn't know
what the distinction was.
Right. So she is right about that.
So once you know the you have
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the recommendations for the Covid vaccine
or any vaccine change, well,
then people who need that vaccine
or seek that vaccine are going
to have to jump through extra hoops.
It's going to be costlier
because of the insurance issue.
Insurance.
Insurance looks for reasons
to not cover things.
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So if they can cite what's going down,
you know, in our health department
and say, well,
it's not recommended so we don't have
to pay for it, that's going
to be an issue for people who are going
to want to get the boosters right.
So I don't have anything else
to add to that other than, you know, she's
raising a really important point here,
and I don't think most Americans realize,
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you know, how his recommendations or the
CDC's recommendations have an impact
on the accessibility of certain vaccines?
Yeah. I don't know who to trust anymore.
That's why my default is
I trust the doctors and the scientists.
Okay.
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I don't trust necessarily leaders
because some of the leadership in,
unfortunately lied
to us about masks and the virology lab.
ET cetera.
But when the great majority of the doctors
and scientists say something,
they are much more likely to be right
than rando Bob on Facebook.
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Okay, so now we did promise this to you.
So we got to show you the Harry Enten,
revealing the poll about Kennedy.
And this is a bit shocking.
So let's watch RFK Jr. Ain't exactly
popular, but he's the most popular
of all the key officials that we have.
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Recent polling on Pete Hegseth, his net
favorable -14 points JD Vance -11 Marco
Rubio minus ten RFK Jr is at minus seven.
VAX kids against infectious diseases,
the government should require it.
You go back to 1991, it was 81% okay.
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Then we go to 2019 at 62%.
Look at where that number fell to.
By 2024, it was just 51%.
That is a 30 point drop.
This to me.
If you're a public health official,
this is perhaps the most worrying
statistic that you should see.
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Look at this. Look at this.
How well masks and vaccines limit Covid.
Public health officials lied.
They lied. In 2022, it was 45%.
Look at where that number is now 55%.
We've lost faith in our institutions 100%.
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And, and we're not going to get it back
with the same old lies
that you see from the establishment.
And we're also not going
to get it back through quackery.
We have to actually go back
to facts and evidence.
So, guys, last thing is,
and I'm going to tell you why I think
that poll came out the way that it did.
But we're asking you in our poll
on Titcomb, who's the Trump official
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you're most concerned about?
Rfk Jr that he came in number one today,
but the voting continues on Titcomb.
Pete Hegseth,
Marco Rubio or Tulsi Gabbard?
I think there's good reasons
to be concerned about all of them.
Why do I think that RFK Jr
did better than others?
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Again, he's negative seven.
It's not like he's,
shining city on a hill.
Right.
It's because the others are disastrous
and feel like they're more establishment
and violating the things
that they promised earlier.
Like Hegseth has been, you know, they
were supposed to be anti-war, and Hegseth
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seems to be pushing towards more war.
Marco Rubio, same thing.
Very establishment doesn't seem
to be representing America, etc..
RFK Jr seemed the least establishment
and hence had more independent support
and more grassroots support.
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But, you know, I don't know how long
that'll hold as he keeps going here,
because firing the actual scientists
is a disastrous idea.
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