No one has gotten more heat from the left for being in favor of law and order, but at the same time, I will never, ever be in favor of dehumanizing people simply because they came to this country with the hope of building a better life for themselves. The facility is in the heart of the Everglades and will be informally known [00:00:19] as Alligator Alcatraz. There is only one road leading in and there is. The only way out is a one way flight. It is isolated and surrounded by dangerous wildlife and unforgiving terrain. The facility will have up to 5000 beds to house, process and deport [00:00:36] criminal illegal aliens. Because cruelty is the point. Cruelty is the point. That was. White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt giddily, giddily announcing that Trump would be touring an intentionally inhumane [00:00:52] detention facility for migrants that the administration has dubbed Alligator Alcatraz. Now, while she claims that it would hold 5000 criminal migrants. Data that we've shared with you on this show before, in fact, we did so last week indicates that the vast majority of immigrants, [00:01:10] undocumented individuals who have been detained by the Trump administration, have not been convicted of or even accused of any crimes. So calling them criminals is rich when that's not actually what's happening here. [00:01:25] Now, before we get to more on this story, just a reminder of what Alligator Alcatraz is all about. Alligator Alcatraz. This 30 square mile area is completely surrounded by the Everglades, presents a efficient, [00:01:42] low cost opportunity to build a temporary detention facility because you don't need to invest that much in the perimeter. People get out. There's not much waiting for them other than alligators and pythons. Nowhere to go, nowhere to hide. Now, Trump and Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem [00:02:00] joined Florida Governor Ron DeSantis for the opening of this controversial immigrant detention facility. It will cost about $450 million a year to detain thousands of migrants in this facility. [00:02:15] DeSantis administration used its emergency powers to expedite 450 million per year for this facility, which DeSantis has said will be able to hold up to 3000 undocumented immigrants. Now, they're hoping that FEMA will reimburse them for the $450 million [00:02:36] that it will cost each year to detain undocumented immigrants in this facility. The entire compound was constructed in just seven days. I'm sure that constructing something in seven days ensures that you know it's humanely. [00:02:52] It's going to treat people humanely, right? Human beings, look, at the end of the day, these are human beings. Like, I get that there are Republican voters who, for whatever reason, think that if someone is in the country illegally, well, they're subhuman and should be treated as such. [00:03:07] I disagree with that. Yeah, I totally disagree with that. But cruelty is the point here. And the Trump administration isn't even hiding that. They think, okay, if we make this a terrible place and undocumented immigrants are fearful about ending up here, maybe they'll self-deport. [00:03:25] That's the whole point. Well, there's there's a second political thing that they're doing, which I think is a huge miscalculation. So first, look, what who's an undocumented immigrant? So my family came over, with, you know, in a documented fashion. [00:03:43] We did it, got a green card, did everything right, and then became citizens. So it's easy for me to say, like, hey, we waited in line. They should wait in line. Okay, sure they should. And I don't think that they should cross the border illegally. And and I think we're right to to return folks who are crossing illegally. [00:04:01] We're certainly right if they're criminals. And they came in here and they committed crimes. No, we don't have to house criminals that came here. No way. Right. But that is that the average undocumented immigrant? No no no no no. The way that the Trump and the Republicans talk about it, it's like 98% of them are, [00:04:20] you know, from gangs. That's not true at all. It's a tiny percentage. And as we've told you many times, natural born citizens unfortunately commit crime at a greater rate than undocumented immigrants. So proportionally they're less likely to be criminals. And it makes sense. You get why? Because they're here. They're worried about losing their ability to stay here. [00:04:37] So they're a little bit more careful. So who's the average guy who's undocumented? He's a guy who went through incredible danger to get into this country. Why? To work his ass off for 80 hours a week at much lower rates than you, so that he could return money to his family at home. [00:04:54] Or maybe he brings his family here to give opportunity to his kids. You could say, hey, he's doing it the wrong way. Do you really want him eaten by alligators? No, but that's the thing. Okay, so that's that's what I want to talk about, right? Because it's one thing to have a. And by the way, if someone's been in the country for decades, [00:05:14] they're undocumented, but they haven't committed any crimes, and they're like productive members of society. We need to have a pathway for citizenship for these people. We do. Right now, you enter the country illegally, even if you're here for decades. There is no pathway to citizenship for you. It is insanely difficult and rare for for that person to ever become [00:05:34] a citizen of this country. So, I think we need to change that. I think we desperately need immigration reform. But with that said, can we please not dehumanize people simply because they're in the country with undocumented status? [00:05:51] They're still human beings, at the end of the day, treating them as if they're again subhuman, that they should be dehumanized, that they should be put in a facility that doesn't care about human rights at all. That's inhumane. I just think is wrong and it doesn't speak well of the country. [00:06:08] I want to be proud of the country I live in, I get it. Law and order. No one has gotten more heat from the left for being in favor of law and order, but at the same time, I will never, ever be in favor of dehumanizing people simply because they came to this country [00:06:24] with the hope of building a better life for themselves. Yeah. So look, guys, we read in civics class, history class. We're all grown up about indentured servants, right? So there was slavery, and then there was indentured servants, and they would bring them over and they had to serve seven years, for their master. [00:06:39] Right. And but they would get the housing and stuff and, and then at the end, they would get to stay in America. And we learned that as something cruel, just just a tiny bit under slavery, right? Well, not a tiny bit, because only seven years versus your whole life and slavery [00:06:56] was just the worst thing in the world. But still, it was in that same sentence, right? Now they tried Pathway to Citizenship or a bunch of years ago, they were going to make it so that you had to serve 14 years, twice as long as indentured servants. [00:07:11] Right. And in a similar way, yeah, you get housing and you get some wages, etc., but it's much lower than if you were a citizen, etc.. And then in the pathway to citizenship, after twice as long, you'd get to stay and be a US citizen, right? [00:07:27] And they said that was too lenient. Twice indentured servitude. Too lenient. Right? No it's not it's not too lenient. That's crazy. You need to have if we're going to bring these people in because we need the cheap labor to keep it real. That's why they're here, right? [00:07:42] Then let's make a rational, conscious decision and say, okay, if you serve this amount of time working your ass off in the hardest jobs in the world. Yes, you get a pathway to citizenship, but you got to follow the rules and all of that, right? You serve in the military like they're there. [00:07:58] Again, it's not saying, oh, you entered the country illegally and you've just been here for X number of years. So we're just going to give you a pass. No, we you pass legislation that ensures that they contribute something specific, right. Whether it's serving in the military doing community service, [00:08:16] I don't know and I don't care. My point is it is not a good look when we have a government that seems very giddy about dehumanizing people. Yeah. Okay. That leads to the political calculation point that I was going to make, Ana. I think that they genuinely think these MAGA guys, the Trump, [00:08:34] the Stephen Miller, etc., that they think that the country overall is as cruel as the radical right is and as they are. So they really think this is going to play well. That's why they're hyping it up. That's why they've been talking about the videos he goes to. [00:08:51] You think it's an accident? The president is visiting it. No, they're trying to market it. - They're marketing it. - As aggressively as they can. And what they're announcing to the citizens is we're super sick, cruel people who like to not just take care of problems we have, but to dehumanize people, [00:09:07] belittle them, and maybe have them eaten by alligators because, you know, Trump is Nero, or some sort of, like, twisted Roman emperor who's lost his frickin mind. So they think that the country loves that. I think they're going to see soon. [00:09:22] The country does not love that your radical right loves that. And that's what I voted for. Immigrants eaten by alligators, right? But no, 80% of the country doesn't want that. So he's kind of walking himself into a disaster politically, if you ask me. [00:09:38] But at some point, those independents who voted for him have got to go. Oh, right. No, this is not good for me. This is terrible. It's not good for anybody. Okay, final thing I'm going to say about this story. There was a 75 year old Cuban man that was detained by Ice. [00:09:57] He's been in the country or was in the country for 60 years. He died in Ice custody. Tom Homan was asked about it. Trump's border czar. And he totally minimized it. Yeah. People die. People die in prison. [00:10:14] People die in detention. That was a human being. 75 year old man. Really? That's our enemy. That's the guy who needs to be detained and thrown into detention. He's been in the country for 60 years. [00:10:30] Guys, the Roman analogy is a little like on the nose because the Romans fed the Christians to the lions. And are they going to take that poor Cuban guy and feed him to the alligators? I mean, they're literally talking about feeding human beings to alligators. [00:10:47] There's this America. This is America. - There's more. - This is sick. Former Trump administration official Ken Cuccinelli told CNN anchor Jake Tapper, quote, we're all going to die. And that was in response to a question about the death of the 75 year old Cuban man. [00:11:06] All right. If this is the cruelty you signed up for. - Okay. - Cruelty is the point. Yeah, well, look yourself in the mirror, man. And are you the moral one? You're the moral one. I don't think so. By the way, Cuban Americans are a huge, huge part of the MAGA base [00:11:24] and Republican base. I don't know if the Republican Party really wants to brand themselves this way, but I do think that there will be political consequences. Back in the day, the Republicans would be like, oh no, the Cubans, the Venezuelans, the North Koreans, anyone escaping communism is welcome here. [00:11:41] Now they changed their mind on that. Yeah. So and by the way, if you're a Venezuelan that escaped from Venezuela or Cuban or whatever, and you thought you were safe, brother, they still think you're not the same as them. Yeah. And so. And you're about to find out. [00:11:56] And so. Okay. You know, if you're MAGA. Enjoy the alligators. I hope soon you're going to be the only ones. Right. And if if you're not MAGA and you're the rest of the country, we got to get these guys out of here. I mean, is this what we're going to become? [00:12:12] Are we okay with this? That other countries think, oh, yeah, if you go to America, they'll feed you to the alligators because they're nuts. There are sick people who like to feed people to the lions or gators or whatever. And in fact, Trump was talking about bringing crocodiles and alligators back into the Rio Grande so that they could eat people trying to cross the river. [00:12:31] I mean, what is he, Doctor evil? This is so maniacal, so stupid. Every time you ring the bell below, an angel gets his wings. Totally not true. But it does keep you updated on our live shows.