May 1, 2025
Is Trump's Ukraine Deal Any Good? The Answer Might Surprise You
The deal between the U.S. and Ukraine gives the U.S. rights to Ukrainian rare earth minerals,
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Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
I'm not telling you because
you're in no position to dictate that.
Remember this.
It appears certain that no deal
could ever come after this.
President Zelensky left,
leaving the minerals deal on the table.
Then came this surprise meeting.
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Trump and Zelensky were meeting
at the Pope's funeral last week.
And today, Ukrainians have heard
the warmest language Washington has spoken
since President Trump came to power.
After a long and tumultuous negotiation
process, the United States and Ukraine
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have officially signed a minerals deal
that allows the U.S.
To share future revenue
from Ukraine's natural resources.
Now, some are kind of trying to present
this as a major loss for Donald Trump,
since there were some important
concessions that he made in getting this
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deal signed, but I don't see it that way.
I actually think this is better
than what was initially agreed upon
between the United States and Ukraine.
And the reason why I say that is
because Ukraine isn't going to be fleeced
the way it would have
if Donald Trump, you know, insisted
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on the initial terms of the first deal.
Now, the current deal was supposed
to be signed all the way,
or the initial deal, I should say,
was supposed to be signed all the way back
in February when Trump and Zelensky
had that fiery Oval Office meeting
where JD Vance,
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unfortunately did not help the situation.
And, you know, devolved further
with his involvement.
But Trump, in that conversation
accused the Ukrainian president
of being a dictator.
Now, last month, the agreement, dubbed
the United States Ukraine Reconstruction
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Investment Fund, finally came to fruition.
And it does create a U.S.
Controlled investment fund
that would receive revenue
from Ukraine's vast natural resources.
Right now.
So I'm curious, before I get to the deal,
the deal itself and the terms
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within that deal, what your thoughts are.
So I hated that we were trying
to randomly rob the Ukrainians
of their natural resources before we
agreed to help them broker a ceasefire
and negotiations with Russia.
And we made that our top priority.
First we got to get paid.
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And one of those precious minerals
is lithium,
which goes into batteries in Tesla.
Right. So we've made a deal.
But now I think I might
be pretty happy with it.
So I'll tell you why
after you get the details.
Okay. Perfect.
So just to give you a few details
about the deal itself.
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Ukraine controls more than 100
major deposits of critical minerals.
And that's according to a study
by the Kyiv School of Economics, along
with modest oil and natural gas reserves.
So that's what Donald Trump
has been eyeing.
And what you're about to hear
are some of the more, you know,
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granular details about the deal itself.
Let's take a look.
It centers on US access
to Ukraine's vast resources under its soil
that includes oil and gas,
but along with critical raw materials,
that's like graphite, titanium and uranium
for aerospace and technology.
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Funds from this deal
would go towards paying the U.S.
For future military aid,
and to establish a joint fund
for the reconstruction of Ukraine.
So you get a sense of how Donald Trump
made some concessions,
concessions based on what was said
in that video, that CBS report.
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Now it is significantly watered down
from what Trump originally was demanding.
So, for instance,
he was initially demanding $500 billion,
or a $500 billion share of Ukraine's rare
earths and other minerals in exchange for
military aid that we've provided to Kyiv.
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But this deal actually gives
no guarantees of profit.
On top of that,
he also said that he wanted Ukraine.
He wanted Ukraine to use its
mineral wealth to repay the United States
for military aid
that has already been given to Ukraine.
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However, he has reneged on that right,
or he is no longer insisting
on that the minerals deal
will help pay the United States for future
military investment into Ukraine,
or help help for Ukraine to, beat off
or defend itself against Russia.
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But there's more.
So, Although the agreement does not treat
past aid to Ukraine as debt that the
country needs to repay, it does say that
future military aid, including weapons
and training, will be treated as a U.S.
Contribution to the fund,
meaning that Ukraine will need
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to match future aid with resource wealth.
And in a post on telegram,
Ukraine's prime minister wrote that
the two countries would have equal voting
rights over the fund and that Ukraine
would retain full control over its subsoil
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infrastructure and natural resources.
So this agreement also also appears
to keep open the possibility
for Ukraine to join the European Union.
But look, we have to also be clear
about one thing.
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This deal really means nothing
if Donald Trump can't convince
Vladimir Putin to end the war.
And right now, there is no indication
that Putin and Russia
have any intention to end the war.
So it really does hinge on Russia.
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However, before I go to you, Jake,
I just want to note that Trump
has changed his rhetoric a little bit
when it comes to Russia.
I want to show you that video
after we hear from Jake.
Yeah. So look on this deal.
The devil's in the details.
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And so CNN is reporting
that it it doesn't really have bite
that it's going to be many decades
from now when they're actually
extracting those minerals
and that there's enough leeway in the deal
for the Ukrainians
to be able to basically change the terms,
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get out of it, etc..
If that's true, then it's a face
saving measure for Trump,
and we're moving forward
to actually dealing with the cease fire.
- That would be great news.
- Okay I agree.
So if it turns out we really are holding
them hostage and taking their, you know,
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state and natural resources, etc.,
let's be honest,
that would be America 101, right?
And we're back to doing that kind of
nonsense for Trump and his donors, etc..
But but if if the reporting is accurate,
it's vague enough deal
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and we move forward.
Great that I'm super happy with it.
Now, there's no mention of a US security
guarantee in the text of the deal.
However, as I mentioned earlier,
the Trump administration appears
to have changed its rhetoric a little bit
as it pertains to Russia.
So let me give you a little taste of that.
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Today's agreement signals clearly
to Russian leadership that the Trump
administration is committed to a peace
process centered on a free, sovereign
and prosperous Ukraine over the long term.
It's time for this cruel
and senseless war to end.
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The killing must stop and look.
There are a lot of kinks that still need
to be worked out, including the fact
that Ukraine's parliament
still has to ratify the agreement.
But I think the good news here
is that Trump has kind of backed off
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of this idea of essentially fleecing
Ukraine with nothing in return.
- That was the initial plan.
- Yes.
There's a couple other good things,
by the way.
Let's note that Elon Musk is on his way
out of the white House, and all of a
sudden the middle's become less important.
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Okay.
So I don't know that those are connected,
but it is an interesting note.
All right.
Now, there are parts in the deal that,
clearly say Russian aggression and how the
Ukrainians would buy weapons from the U.S.
And that money from the fund
would be used to pay for those.
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So that is, in writing the U.S.
Saying the Russians are the bad guys
and we might sell more weapons
to the Ukrainians.
So that's the second piece of good news
here, because that's basically Trump
administration saying, Vladimir, stop.
Okay.
So that's what he wrote
in a Truth Social post.
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And this is him actually carrying
that out, which is much more important
than a Truth Social post, right?
So I wonder if that creates enough
leverage to get Putin to reenter
the negotiations in a serious way.
If it does, terrific.
Every time you ring the bell below,
an angel gets its wings.
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