Even though the Trump administration is facing more and more heat over this mistaken deportation and their refusal to honor due process, the reality is that most Americans are on board with Trump's broader immigration agenda, and that is why he's doing everything he can to steer [00:00:16] the conversation in that direction. Here are the numbers from CNN's Harry Enten. This is a big reason why. So take a look here. This is on immigration. What track are we on, the right track or the wrong track? Look in December, look at the percentage who said we were on the wrong track. 62% [00:00:34] of Americans when Joe Biden was in office, compared to just 14% who said that we were on the right track. Flash forward to April. Well, hello, 45% say we're on the right track, compared to 42% who say we're on the wrong track. So in a big switcheroo from where we were back in January, [00:00:51] the plurality of Americans say that the country is on the right track when it comes to immigration policy. Deport all undocumented immigrants voters favoring the government, trying to deport all 11 million of them. Back in 2016, just 38% of voters wanted the government to try to deport [00:01:09] all 11 million undocumented immigrants. Compare it to where we are in 2025, 56% the majority. So Anton also calculates that Trump's approval rating on immigration is plus one. [00:01:24] But some other polls don't look quite as good for the president in a new Quinnipiac poll. For instance, Trump's net approval on immigration issues is -5% on deportations. Specifically, it's -10%. Jake, we've all been hearing from Republicans for the last several years [00:01:41] that they're not anti immigration. They're anti-illegal immigration. That's a very important caveat for them. But we know that that's really not true. If they were anti-illegal immigration I feel like they would approach the issue differently. They might actually look into the process of getting into this country legally and [00:02:00] try to understand what it actually takes, how difficult it is, how long it can take. They might actually talk about reforming the immigration process because it is incredibly convoluted and risky and time consuming. But they're not having any of those conversations, so they just [00:02:16] hide behind this facade of legal versus illegal immigration because at least in my opinion, they are actually xenophobic. They probably themselves wouldn't identify as being xenophobic. They probably don't think of themselves that way, but I feel like they are. And I feel like that's what this all comes down to. [00:02:32] Immigrants do not have a place in like the white picketed, fenced Pleasantville fever dream that these people actually want to live in. Yeah. So look, I think that there is two different things going on in the immigration issue, and it's that's why these polls seem confusing. [00:02:51] Some have it as, hey, you know, majority of Americans saying deport everybody who's undocumented. The other saying that Trump's popular popularity on this is actually waning and going down significantly. And I think there's a good explanation for both. It's because when he came in, he he did shut down the border and the border [00:03:08] crossings, really, got massively reduced. And so and that greatly frustrates me because apparently it could have been done, but Biden chose not to do it. But then that puts us in an unpopular position, and it leads to abuses like Trump is, doing right now. [00:03:26] Right. On the other hand, if you're again, if you're on the right wing, you you should be more frustrated at Trump than we are. Number one, I you claim to love the Constitution all these years. I hope you meant it. Number two is that his policies on shutting down the border [00:03:41] are very, very popular. But now his overall immigration policies, as you see in the Quinnipiac poll, are beginning to be unpopular. Why? Because he's abusing the Constitution. So how does that help? That doesn't help your cause. Trump could have been super popular on immigration, and he could have. [00:03:58] Look, I don't believe in the mass deportations at all. But if you're on the right or apparently in the middle and you now believe in mass deportations, well, Trump is doing a lot of harm to that cause because he's doing it in such a wild, irresponsible, unconstitutional, authoritarian way where he's rounding [00:04:15] up people that were ordered to stay in the country that shouldn't be sent back, that aren't criminals. So he's making that position unpopular. So that's why you're seeing that, you know, that diversity in those polls [00:04:31] and them going in separate directions. So, as usual, if Trump just could keep his worst authoritarian impulses under control, he actually could have had a win here. But he's turning that win into a loss. Yeah, I feel like just the wildness of this administration, generally speaking, [00:04:50] is very scary to so many Americans. And we're hearing it come up in all these Republican town halls across the country in very red districts. They are bringing up the fact that Trump is denying these, these orders from the Supreme Court. And again, just to remind everyone, that was a unanimous ruling [00:05:07] from the Supreme Court. I can't even remember the last time we saw something like that, especially not with this particular court. I don't think it ever has happened, but people are worried. And on top of everything, we also have the tariffs. Things just feel wildly unstable right now. [00:05:23] People don't know what to expect. People don't know what's happening. And the rules that we have all grown up with, the rules that we have known in this country for centuries, those don't seem to matter anymore, and it's making people very uncomfortable. That's what I think is happening. Every time you ring the bell below, an angel gets his wings. [00:05:40] Totally not true. But it does keep you updated on our live shows.