So I think we've still got a race problem and a gender problem, and to win, we should have had a white guy. Especially when you lose these races, you got to beat the other team. And part of it's a lot of it's race and a lot of it is gender. Men compete against women in sports, but worse than that, they said that they [00:00:18] wanted to allow and pay for sex change operations of people who were in prison. John Podesta is a smart guy, and, Begala is a smart guy. And the people that ran the campaign are smart, and they do know their politics. [00:00:34] - We keep talking. - About how the Democrats failed. And you're saying that these are smart folks. I don't see it. I don't see it at all. I see people who lost to Donald Trump twice. I don't think that's smart. I need to stop watching MSNBC, which, you know, Kornacki is going over all these numbers. You know, it's. [00:00:51] Yeah. It's depressing. Yeah. Well, I agree that you have to stop watching MSNBC. Democratic Congressman Steven or Steve Cohen joined us for a conversation during our election coverage on election night, [00:01:07] and we wanted to revisit the conversation to show just how dedicated Democratic lawmakers such as Cohen want to like, how dedicated they are to identitarianism and basically anything other than the issues that matter to the Democratic voters. [00:01:24] That conversation, Jake, blew me away. I was off doing another interview, so I didn't catch it live. But look, I want to show you how much he thinks that Democrats don't need to change a damn thing. Let's watch. I know Democrats, they won't change a thing. [00:01:41] They won't change a thing. So we won't. We won't. Yeah. What? Yeah. What's amazing. So. So there was a lot of things that were so interesting in that interview. I'm so glad we did it, because it gives you a sense [00:01:58] of what the mindset in Washington is and what I call the Washington Mind virus. Now, I'm not blaming Steve Cohen for it. He's actually been a pretty good congressman and and won ten times in a row in a majority black district. Knows how to do politics well. ET cetera. [00:02:15] And is an honest guy who like to a fault. Very honest. And he clarified the white man comment a little bit later, but having like, he's not trying to say we only have to have white guys running. On the other hand, he he does believe in identity politics. [00:02:30] And so this all the things that he said are things that almost all Democratic congresspeople in Washington believe. And that's the problem. The problem isn't Steve Cohen. The problem is the mindset. And so. Yeah, he's just one example, right? It's kind of the hive mind of the Democratic establishment. [00:02:47] That's right. That's why it's that's why I'm calling it the Washington Mind virus. Right. And so they think that well, it's first we got to get the demographics right. Guys, I don't know if you know this, but Trump won Latino men period. He won the popular vote period. So this whole like oh okay. [00:03:04] Now the Latinos are on our side and we're going to do with women and all this identity politics. It doesn't matter if you don't deliver for any of them and they just not getting it right. And the idea that these guys who do one gigantic failure after another, after another, no matter how many times they fail, Democrats in Washington [00:03:24] are like super smart guys. We got to listen to them. Why? So let's get to the substance. Let's hear him out. In regard to what he believes went wrong with Kamala Harris and the Democrats this time around in the 2024 presidential race. [00:03:40] What do you think went wrong in the Kamala Harris Democratic campaign against Trump here? You know, it's hard to say. I mean, I thought she ran a pretty good campaign, but I don't know that she was her strongest candidate. There's still probably a little antipathy towards a woman being president. [00:03:59] And there's probably still some racial antipathy. You know, Barack one Barack did fabulous. But it was Barack's election that brought it back about Donald Trump. And there were a lot of people that didn't like it and never did like it and didn't want to see it happen, and they didn't want to see another [00:04:15] African-American be president. So I think we still got a race problem and a gender problem, and to win, we should have had a white guy. I mean, people are going to be mad, but that's the facts. The demographics worked against us, I think, because Kamala ran a good campaign and she's smart and she's experienced. [00:04:31] It didn't make enough of a difference. Well, I think it's worth discussing the fact that Donald Trump actually managed to increase his support among various groups of people, including black males and also Latino voters, Arab voters. [00:04:49] Now, let's get to the details on that. NBC news found Latino men were breaking for Trump by a ten point margin. Their exit polling found Trump secured 54% of the male Latino vote support in comparison to Harris's 44%. [00:05:04] Four years ago, Latino men backed Biden over Trump 59% to 36%. Now, Trump's appeal to Latino men is largely economic, okay, largely economic. And look, it's not just based on this one excerpt from this one piece. [00:05:23] They've been saying it over and over and over again in poll after poll after poll. Economy. Number one. Priority. Economy number one. Priority. It must be racism. It must be sexism. And no, they're telling you no matter. How many times they tell pollsters, online focus groups, whatever it might be. [00:05:43] Hey, it's the economy, stupid. They turn around and go. So you really want to protect undocumented immigrants? They're like, no, I don't know. How much clearer do I need to be? Look, here's the problem with not just Democrats, but people that are in Washington. They view people in buckets, and they think everybody in the bucket [00:06:00] does the same thing is a monolith. Yeah, but that's not how it works in the real world. There. You know what? Latinos are human beings like everybody else. They have different opinions, they, etc. And you got to deliver for them like you would anybody. And delivering doesn't mean just on Latino issues, it means on human issues. [00:06:20] Now I hear the arguments already from, you know, the Democratic loyalists who say, well, I mean, the economy has improved under Joe Biden, and they'll note the unemployment rate, which is true. There's a low unemployment rate, they'll note the GDP. But, guys, I want to be clear about something. [00:06:36] And this is a point that I made during the Trump administration when the Trump administration was, you know, boastful about their low unemployment rates. Okay. But what are the quality of those jobs? Are these well-paying jobs with benefits? Are these full time jobs, or are these temporary jobs part time jobs? [00:06:54] Do Americans need to cobble together several jobs just to make ends meet? You know, that's a real question that I don't really see the Democratic Party delving into, probably because there are some inconvenient truths there that they don't want to have to contend with. The other issue is I don't care about the GDP. [00:07:11] Ordinary Americans average Americans don't care about the GDP. The GDP is not a metric that you should be boastful about when you're trying to make a case to ordinary Americans in regard to how the economy is doing. Now, if you want to mention that as one throwaway metric, that's fine. [00:07:27] But when it comes to ordinary people day to day, what percentage of them are living paycheck to paycheck? What percentage of them are not gainfully employed? What percentage of them you know are in an insane amount of debt? Consumer debt is at record levels right now. [00:07:43] These are issues that the Democratic Party has failed to address, and instead they have decided to really lean into the identitarianism, which is unpopular mostly because it divides Americans based on either their race or their gender, or, you know, their sexual identity. [00:08:02] And at the same time, it leads to one ploy from the Democratic Party over and over again. And that's scolding, constant scolding, constant accusations of either racism, bigotry, misogyny. People are sick of it. You're going to lose support among voters if that's your only game, [00:08:17] if you're a one trick pony and that's the only thing you campaign on. And there's one other problem with what he was saying there. He's talking about, oh, you know, did we have the right candidate? Did she run a good campaign? She ran a good campaign. No she didn't. She ran a terrible campaign. And but but Democrats in Washington don't understand that because they think. [00:08:35] What do you mean? She did the standard things. She went and did mainstream media. She raised $1 billion. Oh, what else can you do? My God, you raised $1 billion. The other thing you could do is win. And so. And would it have mattered if they had another a corporate robot [00:08:52] instead of this corporate robot? It wouldn't have mattered at all. Because you guys are missing the forest for the trees, right? Well, the real issue is you keep running by people who are doing talking points, and they they won't waver from whatever the donors want at all. [00:09:09] We'll talk more about it later in the show. Right. Tons of ballot measures that that passed that were Democratic policies. But you don't run on those policies because the donors don't want those policies. I wouldn't even. Jake, don't make the mistake of saying Democratic policies anymore, okay? They're economic populist policies that the mainstream Democratic Party [00:09:26] has completely abandoned and instead has focused on the identitarianism. Yeah. And I'll explain why a little bit later. But in this case, I don't I think he's fundamentally wrong. I think almost all the Democrats in Washington think exactly like him, which is well, [00:09:42] if we had a different robot with different talking points and appeal to different demographics than we would have won. No, no, you're going the establishment route. That is a dead end. You have to turn around and go towards populism and actually delivering for your voters. [00:09:58] But that's the thing they just can't even comprehend, like at this point. No. And then they wonder why they lost. Now, I want to be clear. I don't think that this ideology or mentality is representative of the whole of the Democratic Party. But after the election results. Hold on. After the election results last night, I saw a few people on social media say some [00:10:17] pretty disgusting things about Latinos, especially Latino men, because they have decided to basically support Donald Trump. And they keep stating it has to do with economic reasons. But remember, women were supposed to be the ones to save Kamala Harris. [00:10:34] She actually managed to lose support among women. More women voted for Joe Biden than they did for Kamala Harris overall. Also, she lost support among Latino women, Latino women as well. Harris had a 25 point advantage with [00:10:51] Latina women, down from Biden's 29 point lead 39. I'm sorry, 39 point lead in 2020. And again, in fact, more women voted for Biden than Harris. Biden won them by 57%. Harris won them by 54%. [00:11:08] Also, 8 in 10 black voters supported Harris, which is still an overwhelming majority. But that's still down from the roughly 9 in 10 who backed Biden. So are they also racist and sexist, too? - Look, they. - Probably will claim that anyway. [00:11:24] Look, guys, all of this is the wrong way of thinking about it. So instead of berating which demographic group betrayed you, first of all, they didn't owe you anything. You owed them something. You should be worried about, hey, how do I deliver for them? [00:11:40] But secondly, this whole idea of Biden versus Harris is wrong. It was at the time Biden was providing a change from Donald Trump and the debacle that we were in during Covid. And now Kamala Harris was stuck as the incumbent party. [00:11:58] And Donald Trump was promising change. So that dynamic is so much more important than Biden versus Harris. Or how did Latina women versus African American men react to the candidates? They're not reacting to the candidates. They're reacting to the times and the and the economic conditions [00:12:16] that they're in. 100%. Thanks for watching. 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