Sep 4, 2024
COWARDLY Republicans Pray For Trump’s Downfall Behind His Back
Republicans are looking forward to a post-Trump era.
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While most national level Republicans
have publicly been cheerleading
Donald Trump, hoping that he wins
the presidential election,
Politico reports that behind the scenes,
many of them are
actually rooting for Kamala Harris.
And honestly, this doesn't surprise me
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because I remember speaking at a the
Pennsylvania Chamber of Commerce event,
I was debating Ben Shapiro there publicly.
Outwardly, everyone loves Trump privately.
Oh, the crap talking was pretty intense.
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Now we're learning about this thanks
to a column in Politico by Jonathan Martin
titled If Republicans Want to Win,
they need Trump to lose big to dominate
the country once more, Republicans need
to hasten the move to a post-Trump party.
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So in it, Martin argues that Harris
is less a doctrinaire progressive
than she is up for grabs on policy.
But any liberal course she takes
would be constrained by a GOP held Senate.
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So that is what they're banking on.
They're hoping that Republicans
take control of the Senate.
By the way, if Republicans
have control of either chamber,
that means we're going to get gridlock.
And so any proposal that might be
too progressive for Republicans,
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they can just be obstructionists
and prevent it from passage.
Oh. And she would be the first Democrat
to enter the presidency since 1884
without majorities in both chambers.
Should Republicans flip the Senate?
That adds up to a recipe for gridlock,
and perhaps some deal making to fund
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the government and avoid across the board
tax hikes, but not a Scandinavian
social welfare state, God forbid.
Which she's definitely going to institute.
She hasn't even really proposed
anything even close to that.
But okay. Yeah.
So the idea here is, look,
I think most people who have been paying
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attention know, like most
Republican lawmakers do not like Trump,
and they feel like they have
to support him publicly because of where
the Republican electorate is like
the Republican electorate loves Trump.
Republicans in office
don't necessarily love Trump.
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So if Kamala Harris wins, well,
then finally their Trump problem is gone.
Maybe, right? Maybe.
I mean, who knows.
But they think he'll be gone.
We'll have gridlock in Congress.
And so we don't have to worry about Kamala
Harris actually accomplishing anything.
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And then we can pave the way for a.
In their minds, better Republican to run
against Harris in the next election cycle.
Yeah, maybe.
I think part of my initial knee jerk
opposition to the article was in the fight
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between what's not a terrible thesis,
that apparently is, you'll get too many
Republicans seem to agree with and like
the need to get people to click on it.
When you when you want to have like a bold
headline, they need him to lose and big.
And then your entire thesis is lose.
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But the Republicans maintain
control of like then no,
you don't want him to lose big.
You want her to win a little bit
so that the Republicans still maintain
control of the Senate and the House, then
that's not as exciting a premise, is it?
But but I get the idea.
And I would just remind everyone,
some people, especially if you're
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new to politics, might look at something
like this and be like, well,
why would you ever possibly want that?
I mean, why would you not want to win?
I mean, after all, like our team, if we
win, we get what we want, their team.
If they win, they get what they want.
But as as you know,
from covering this for a long time,
that's not really how it works.
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This is asymmetric warfare like our team,
which I would define
as not even the entire Democratic Party
has a lot of things that we want
because we don't have them.
The Republicans don't have a lot
that they really need.
They've they've got, you know, they've
gotten the tax cuts that they want.
Things are set up
pretty much the way they want.
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They can lose and they're doing okay
because the status quo
was already set by them.
We need a big victory, right.
That as the headline
Harris needs to win and big.
We need the Senate. We need the House.
We need to get people
on the Supreme Court and all that.
And also don't forget, you know, hopefully
flip some state legislatures as well.
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Here's where things get super
interesting with the Politico piece.
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So Martin thought that his piece
understandably would be very provocative,
but actually found
that many Republicans agreed with him.
And not just your run of the mill
like Never Trumpers, right?
He didn't, like, sit down with, you know,
Kinzinger and base his entire piece
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on what Adam Kinzinger has to say.
So on or one high level Republican
conceding it may only be wishful thinking,
even floated the idea of a Harris victory,
followed by Biden pardons
of both his son, Hunter and Donald Trump.
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This is like the magical thinking
of the century.
Okay.
That would take the issue of both cases
off Harris's plate and more to the point,
drain the energy
behind Trump's persecution complex
so that Republicans can get on
with the business of winning elections.
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I don't think these traditional
conservative Republicans who secretly
despise Donald Trump realize that,
like the electorate,
like your voters, like Trump,
they like the brand of politics
he brings to the Republican Party.
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Like they think
that the second Trump is gone.
All right.
We're back to Bush era republicanism.
I don't think that's necessarily the case.
Yeah.
I don't think it will be that.
And I don't think it will be a replacement
Trump that just naturally slots in there,
because I don't think that that exists.
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I think that the last year
has been very rough for that thesis.
Ron DeSantis doesn't have that.
JD Vance doesn't have it.
Now, the good thing for them,
if they're looking for a silver lining,
is they may well almost certainly not get
a person who gets all of the free passes
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and all of that that Donald Trump gets,
but whoever replaces him
won't have so many of the downsides that
make it so that, like, his base loves him.
But that's a minority
of the American population, and he's never
going to get the majority to like him.
Another Republican
might be a little bit more charismatic
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or not so horrendous in a lot of ways.
And so I don't think the the leadership
of the Republican Party is going
to be really happy with what comes.
And I think that there's a lot
of regular Republicans that initially are
going to have a lot of whiplash after
losing Donald Trump, assuming he doesn't
run again, which he totally couldn't.
I don't see why he wouldn't.
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But I think they might still end up better
off electorally than with Donald Trump.
So some Republicans and GOP operatives
actually fear a second Trump term could
take the party in the wrong direction.
For example, free market cheerleaders
are fretting about Trump's new populist
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infused policy platform
that embraces tariffs and shies away from
tough conversations about entitlements.
So these are these are the kinds of
Republicans we're talking about here.
Okay.
These are Republicans who are like,
we want to cut Social Security
and Medicare so bad.
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And this mfer is not committed enough
to what we want to do.
Okay.
He has talked about it
during this campaign.
He has proposed it in budget proposals
when he was in office.
So, you know, on one hand he talks about
how, no, no, we can't cut Social Security.
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But then behind the scenes, of course,
he has his proposals to cut Social
Security or raise the retirement age.
Opponents of abortion rights
are upset about his verbal flip flops
on abortion and impromptu suggestion
that the government should pay
for in vitro fertilization treatments.
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What happened?
I thought, you guys, I thought you
guys wanted to increase the birth rate.
What happened?
- That would be a great way to do that.
- Would be a great way to do it.
Also, by the way,
has he said that again in the last week?
No. He just spit out like a wild idea.
Has never said it again.
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I would be frustrated
if I was a Republican Because how were
you supposed to read this guy?
He says wild things
that are directly contradictory.
Defense hawks continue to worry
about Trump abandoning U.S.
Allies and upending the world order
in a second term.
So I want to be clear about something.
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I hate these people.
Like I hate what they represent.
I hate what they stand for.
I think they're cowards.
I think even though I disagree with Adam
Kinzinger on politics, on policy,
he definitely has way more courage
than these pathetic little dweebs
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in Congress who secretly despise Donald
Trump and everything he stands for.
But they're too afraid
to say anything about it publicly.
And instead go to Jonathan Martin
over at Politico to talk crap about Trump.
Right? You guys are pathetic.
Okay.
I love how they're total hawks
when it comes to foreign policy,
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but in real life, they're really chicken.
You know what? Okay.
I do.
Anyway, one conservative leader
told Politico, quote, there's a lot
of anxiety about what Trump does
to the Republican ability to win in 2028,
and what he also may do to the party
in terms of policy long term.
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There is just this concern that like,
okay, if the party just goes in that
direction, then what kind of party is it?
What kind of party is it going forward?
And can conservatives then
have a home going forward?
I mean, you got to take that up
with the Republican voters,
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because the policies that Trump espouses
are policies that seem to appeal
to the very voters that you guys want
to appeal to, to win in 2028.
So how do you make amends
with the fact that your base is now
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in a completely different headspace
when it comes to policies
and how they want this country to be run?
I think that's a bigger question for them.
But there, you know, maybe too scared
to tackle it because it seems like
they're scared of everything.
It's definitely true. Yeah.
If I could just say one thing
to make them feel a little bit better,
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I know that obviously in that graphic,
They're very focused.
They have anxiety about 2028 or whatever.
I don't think that they
should be worried about 2028.
They're getting way ahead of themselves.
They should be worried about 2026,
because you get that he's still going
to be choosing your Senate candidates
in two years, right?
Like he's going to choose
another round of Doctor Oz's
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and Herschel Walker's and stuff like that.
Again, the idea that he's just going
to go away if he's not in office, all he
has is fighting for relevancy to his base.
He's going to be doing rallies
and he's going to be he's going
to be digging his claws into that base.
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You better hope that he loses.
And then, like, I don't know,
has a run in with a fish fillet
or something like that that lays him out
because otherwise he's got control of
the party for at least a few more years.
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