Nov 9, 2023
Fox Business' Stuart Varney directly asked Vivek Ramaswamy about the attacks he made about Nikki Haley's family during the third GOP debate.
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Called out Nikki Haley's
daughter for using TikTok.
She then called you scum.
Why did you go after her family
and her clothing?
No woman is going to like that.
Vivek Ramaswami is getting some real heat
today after he did in fact target
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Nikki Haley's family.
Now, this was during last night's GOP
primary debate, and the topic at hand was
whether or not TikTok should be banned.
And so let's get into the next video.
I'll give you more afterward.
Ramaswami, we've talked about this.
You campaign on TikTok.
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How do you get TikTok banned
if you use it?
Well, I want to laugh at why Nikki Haley
didn't answer your question,
which is about looking at families in the
I. In the last debate, she made fun of me
for actually joining TikTok
while her own daughter was actually
using the app for a long time.
So you might want to take care
of your family first.
[00:00:51]
Leave my daughter out of your voice.
Adult daughter the next generation
of Americans are using.
And that's actually the point.
You have her supporters crapping her up.
That's fine. Here's the truth.
You're the easy answer is actually to say
that we're just going to ban one app.
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- We got to go further.
- Look, I agree with Nikki Haley.
Family should be off limits.
Absolutely off limits.
Now, I think the same can be said
of Hunter Biden.
I mean, the hyper focus on Hunter Biden
when he is not
in government is ridiculous.
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Yes, there's nepotism at play when he
serves on the board of a Ukrainian gas
company when he has no expertise on that.
But putting that aside, I just
think families should be off limits.
And I think she showed
a great deal of restraint there.
Yes, she used the word scum.
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I don't know how I would contain myself
if anyone on that stage
had attacked a family member of mine.
Yeah, I have a nuanced opinion on that.
So I think that if there's some corruption
you can show with the family members
and there, then they come within limits.
Like, for example, Ginni Thomas,
the wife of Clarence Thomas.
[00:01:55]
Yes.
Getting funneled money
from right wing billionaires
for a job she's doing at a think tank, or.
Joe Manchin's daughter serving as
the executive of a pharmaceutical company
and engaging in an effort
to prevent the release
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of a generic version of the EpiPen.
- We did coverage of that.
- Yeah.
So if they had evidence connecting
Hunter Biden to Joe Biden, I would say
that's totally within bounds right now.
In this case.
The daughter in question,
I think is a grown up.
I don't think she's, you know, a teenager
or anything like that, but who cares?
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It's not in bounds.
No, that has nothing to do
with corruption.
It has nothing to do with policy.
It has nothing to do with anything.
Don't bring family members
randomly into a discussion like this.
That's the thing with Ramaswami.
He has no bounds.
And and he's constantly trying to get
attention in a way that's so shameless.
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I have less problem with the actual
statement, which I don't like at all.
I have a bigger problem
with the way he conducts himself overall.
Yeah, I. Agree.
Like he's constantly like, look at me.
I'm willing to say something terrible
and immoral to get your attention.
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I don't find it cute at all.
I'm going to say something that some
people are not going to like,
but it's what Ramaswami reminds me of is
there are some people I don't think it's
representative of the entire millennial or
Zoomer generations, but there are people
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within that generation who, like, enter
a new workplace fresh out of college.
They're like the new kid on the block,
and they come in basically trying to call
the shots as if they're the experts
in the profession
when they have, like, no experience.
That's what Ramaswami reminds me of.
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I think Ramaswami
might actually be a millennial.
- No, he's very young.
- I don't know.
But look, I you know,
I've said this for now, decades.
I'm not impressed
by the experience of the politicians.
But on the other hand,
when you come into a situation like this,
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you better if you're going to claim that
you know everything and that everybody
else is wrong, you better have your stuff.
Correct. Okay.
Yeah.
And he has often not had it. Correct.
So in this one it's I
have an extra thing to say.
Okay.
Go bring your family and totally wrong.
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No justification for it
in this particular case.
But on top of that,
what's the conversation we're having?
We're really every Republican
wants to ban TikTok.
They're just going to literally
make it illegal in America.
Like if you say, hey, I got an issue
with the Chinese ownership and is there
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anything we could do to ameliorate that?
Is there any way that we could fix that?
Can we put pressure on them
to hand it off to an American subsidiary?
Whatever.
Okay. Those are interesting conversations.
You're just going to ban them.
You all agree, by the way,
this is also the party that talks about
how they're in favor of freedom of speech.
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But all of you TikTokers
we found out are progressives.
And you're all voting for Democrats,
and you cost us the 2022 election.
And and we're worried that you
just cost us the elections
in Virginia and Ohio and Kentucky.
So we're going to ban all of you
from speaking.
I mean, I'm really worried about
the Chinese and the blah, blah, blah.
[00:05:00]
What was her official excuse,
again for banning all opinions against us?
And if you notice, Vivek,
at the end there didn't say,
I don't think banning TikTok is enough.
Yeah, you'd like to ban everyone
who disagrees with you, I'm sure.
I think in favor of freedom of speech.
I think you say so.
I think it's hilarious that they
they're under the impression
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that the pro-Palestinian movement
in the country is due to TikTok
and the Chinese Communist Party
poisoning the minds of America's youth.
- No, but.
- Seriously, guys, look, these guys are.
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I mean, look, if you're in the younger
generation, you already know this, right?
But if you're above 45, like, I am,
like, these guys are full blown lunatics.
Like, in the real world,
the Chinese own TikTok.
And hence we have an issue
with the data privacy.
[00:05:49]
Right? But are the Chinese saying
to young Americans, go on TikTok,
do propaganda for us until you poison the
minds of Americans in favor of Palestine?
Well, okay, so one thing I will say,
I don't I do not think that China
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is pushing a pro-Palestinian message.
Now, do I think China would have
the ability to tweak the algorithm
in order to enhance issues
that lead to divides within the country?
Yeah, of course they would do that.
Why wouldn't they?
No, no, they could.
[00:06:24]
First of all,
there's no evidence that they.
Are there is no evidence that they are.
But I mean, anyone who is
suspicious of them potentially doing that
I think has the right suspicions.
Yeah, we'll see if they I've
never seen any evidence of that.
So I'm not saying like that's impossible.
No. Russia tried to do it back in 2016.
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Divide us.
ET cetera.
And I know if you're a Maga go cry.
Go, go.
I'm not saying that they work with Trump.
I'm saying that there
was overwhelming evidence.
And your beloved Mueller report, which you
think proved Trump innocent, also said,
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yeah, the Russians tried to divide us.
They went on social.
- Of course they.
- Did.
Of course they did.
Of course, any adversary
to the United States would use any tool
to weaken the United States.
That's why are we pretending
like this isn't a thing?
This is a force thing.
This is a thing
that the United States engages in.
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- Yeah.
- Come on.
Look, by the way,
could allies use it, too?
Like Israel has never done
propaganda inside the US?
Israel never does anything. Come on.
Israel is full of angelic.
The Israeli government is full of angelic
beings who have never done anything wrong
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and should be supported no matter what.
But my but my point though,
is the people that are on TikTok
are not secret Chinese agents, okay?
They're regular Americans, and anyone
who's been on TikTok knows that.
And I've never seen any evidence
of algorithm manipulation or manipulation
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to favor one side over another.
And and I don't know why.
Like, I don't even know a policy position
that affects the Chinese where like
the thing I can think of is tariffs.
There's there a lot of pro or anti.
He terror propaganda on TikTok.
If so, I haven't seen it.
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So I think this is just an excuse
to shut down younger voters speech
because they're worried that the younger
voters are kicking their ass.
Yeah, I think that there's there's
that's definitely one of the main
motivating factors here, which is why the
topic got brought up on that debate stage.
[00:08:21]
So one other thing I want to just
quickly mention is, man, Vivek Ramaswamy
and Nikki Haley despise each other.
There was another moment on the debate
stage where they went at it, and it had
to do with footwear of all things.
Let's get to it.
The fact of the matter is, the
Republican Party is not that much better.
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You have the likes of Nikki Haley,
who stepped down from her time at the UN,
bankrupt or in debt is was her family.
Then she becomes a military contractor.
She joins the board of Boeing and
otherwise and is now a multi-millionaire.
So I think that that's wrong.
When Republicans do it or Democrats do it,
that's the choice we face.
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Do you want a leader
from a different generation who's going
to put this country first, or do you want
Dick Cheney in three inch heels?
Yes.
At first like to say there are
five inch heels and I don't wear them
unless you can run in them.
So we got two of you on stage.
The second thing that I will.
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Say is I wear heels or not for a fashion
statement there for ammunition.
- So I don't know what that means.
- I don't know what it means either.
But I know I prepared talking points
because I know you said that earlier.
You said it about me and DeSantis.
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I knew you'd bring it out
in the debate again.
So here's my zingers that me
and my consultants came up with.
Now, he was asked about that as well.
By the way, when I first heard her
statement about her running heels,
which she doesn't run in heels.
No. Okay.
Anyway, but that's beside the point.
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I didn't hear what Ramaswami had said
to her, which spurred that reaction.
I was distracted, but yeah, I mean, look,
I think what Ramaswami said there
could actually potentially hurt him
because he didn't make a distinction.
Remember, he basically started that off
by saying, like, Republicans suck.
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And I personally know that he's referring
to the candidates on the stage.
He's referring to the politicians.
But I'm not sure Republican voters
are going to make that distinction.
Right.
So it sounds like he's just critiquing
and crapping on Republicans in general.
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- Yeah.
- So that could be a problem for him too.
But look, we do we're filled
with nuance here because every situation
is a little bit different.
And and you've got
to use your judgment, etcetera.
On the other hand, for Ramaswami,
who I as you can tell,
I'm not a big I'm not a big fan of him.
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But he pointing out that Nikki Haley
is acting like Dick Cheney in in being
a neocon, pushing for more and more wars.
That part is 100% accurate.
So he's frustrating often
because he'll take a good point.
Hey, aren't these guys the same exact
guys we hated when, you know, Trump said,
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oh, we don't like George W Bush
and all those neocons and Dick Cheney.
Well, here they are again.
There's no difference
between Nikki Haley and Dick Cheney.
That is totally true.
But then he screws it up with his
stupid lines about the three inch heels
and the daughters and stuff.
He thinks he's being clever, but he
just he's being intensely unlikable.
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Totally talking about how his
how her family was in debt.
Now just shut up
like it's the attacks on the family.
It really rubs me the wrong way.
And I'm not a fan of Nikki Haley either.
So finally, Vivek Ramaswami
was asked to answer for the statements
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that he made on that debate stage
while he appeared on Fox News.
Let's take a look.
Why did you go after her family
and her clothing?
No woman is going to like that.
Well, I did well, I'm going to tell you,
she called me four letter words
in each of the last two debates.
Stuart, the reality is this the Republican
Party has, appropriately, I think,
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had scrutiny of Hunter Biden for years.
I mean, you know, not only the media,
but even Republican politicians correctly,
in the last debate,
she is actually saying that I'm on.
She said, I feel dumber
every time I hear you speak.
That's what she said for using TikTok.
The criticism
wasn't of Nikki Haley's daughter.
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It was of Nikki Haley
for having been completely oblivious
to where the next generation of Americans
is actually getting their information.
So my view is that we do better
by showing up.
Nikki Haley wants
to go the way of censorship.
I want to go the way of free speech.
She wants to go the way of withdrawing
from talking to young people.
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My point is, young people,
even in your own family,
are on that next generation platform.
We need to talk to them directly. Okay.
She's on the other side.
Nikki is of this generational divide,
and that's what I was pointing out.
He loves to talk about how young he is.
He's like super cutting edge.
So look, in regard to Nikki Haley, she was
later asked about that whole experience
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with Ramaswami on the debate stage.
And she says, let's go to graphic three.
That was showing a lot of restraint.
That's all I'll say.
She said.
It was showing a lot of restraint.
Meaning calling him scum
was showing restraint.
And you know what? I agree with her.
And then even Ron DeSantis thought that
Ramaswami's comments were inappropriate.
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He said, quote,
I think the kids are out of bounds.
I didn't think that was
an appropriate thing to do.
All right. Yeah.
I'm going to give you the last word to one
of our members who slightly disagrees,
engineer wrote in Nikki Haley's
daughter is not a minor, so why should
she be controlling her TikTok use?
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So.
But that's agreeing with us saying that.
Like why bring up her daughter like.
Nikki Haley can't control
her adult daughter anyway, right?
So it's not on Nikki Haley.
But they added also,
she was also she was almost smiling
during the exchange with Vivek.
So was this all faux outrage
and that part I kind of agree with.
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Like I think that she thought,
oh my God, he stepped in it.
He's such an idiot.
Okay, now I'm going to get to say
he attacked my family
and he'll wind up looking worse.
I think that's largely true.
- But he did step in.
- He did step in it.
- I agree 100%.
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