Ben Shapiro beefing with Candace Owens over Israel. Let me take you to this one first. Here it is. >> Speaker 2: And the question is about Candace Owens. I think her behavior during this is disgraceful without a doubt -. [00:00:15] >> [APPLAUSE] >> Owens still works at my company, I mean, I think it absolutely disgrace. I think that her faux sophistication on these particular issues has been ridiculous. It's not faux sophistication, it's ridiculous. [00:00:32] Everybody can see the moves that she's making and the things that she is saying and then find this reputable. >> Speaker 1: Wow. All right, let's put up the tweet. I will give you the background to the saga, okay? Blessed are the peacemakers, Candace wrote, for they shall be called the children of God. [00:00:50] Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye when men shall revile you and persecute you, and shall say all man of evil against you falsely for my name's sake. [00:01:10] No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate one and love the other or you will be devoted to the one and despite and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money. Now, all of that's in the Bible. Now, she was pulling it from a few different places, [00:01:25] all of that's in Scripture. All right, put up this second one. So Shapiro is slamming Owens for commentary on the Israel Hamas conflict. So some speculate, obviously, [00:01:41] that the rift started in November. But the tweet I just read to you after the comments made by Shapiro, her boss at the Daily Wire went viral, Owens posted this cryptic tweet hours later, and I just read that. And some speculate that the rift started on November 3 when Owens [00:02:01] tweeted this about the genocide. No government anywhere has right to commit genocide ever. There is no justification for genocide. I can't believe this even needs to be said or is even considered the least bit controversial to state. [00:02:16] All right, sounds like a reasonable tweet, as a matter of fact, probably the most, the most reasonable thing, most decent thing Candace Owens has ever said. I find absolutely no issue with that statement. [00:02:32] All rIght, so on November 5th, Owens retweeted. All right, she retweeted Max Blumenthal to agree with his comments that, quote, we White American Jews are living through a golden age of power, affluence, and safety. [00:02:49] All right, so it says, you are about to get into a lot of trouble for stating this. Reminds me when I said something similar about the NAACP and BLM way back then, way back. When you disrupt, she has to mess it up, when you disrupt the trauma economy and [00:03:09] call out the not-for-profits that benefit from it, you become their next target. So Max says we White American Jews are living through a golden age of power, fluence, and safety. Acceptance of this welcome reality threatens the entire Zionist enterprise, [00:03:29] from lobby fronts like the ADL to the State of Israel, blah, blah, blah. All right, so it continues, there's an entire tweet about it. So the following day, Shapiro responds to the tweet, okay, and says, I think ADL is a partisan hack organization too. [00:03:47] But retweeting Max Blumenthal, who spends his life covering for Jew haters, he says, and stumping for Israel's destruction, makes the conversation significantly worse, it's garbage. And then he places Candace Owens tweet, obviously, in the retweet. [00:04:05] So Candace would then respond to Shapiro. I don't know who Max Blumenthal is, but I do know that you have my number and could have informed me in earnest. [00:04:22] Real relationships should Trump Twitter theater. Let's set a better example going forward. [LAUGH] In other words, you had my number, you could have called me, you could have talked this out. [00:04:39] Interesting. All right, so outrage from other conservatives calls Owens to defend herself against accusations of being an anti-Semite. Here it is. >> Speaker 4: People are feeling like they can't even speak about this subject or [00:04:54] they can't talk to a person like the way that you and I are speaking without being called a Jew hater. And so it's kind of creating this weird situation where actually it's furthering the problem to keep calling people Jew haters. It's furthering the problem to call people anti-Semitic. It would be more helpful to actually try to see where you connect and [00:05:12] see how you're feeling, because it humanizes things. It's like, listen, I'm not Jewish, so I don't feel as radically or as motivated as you do about this situation that's happening. I am being selfish and American and saying, I don't want a single dollar to go overseas because we've been in a bunch of useless wars. And that might be upsetting to hear, but there's no [LAUGH] anti-Semitism in my [00:05:30] heart when I say it, it's just me being consistent in how I've always felt. I genuinely would vote against sending a single dollar to Israel like I was vocal about not sending money to Ukraine or any other country. It's nothing personal, it's just I am very much America first. I'm looking at what's happening in America right now, [00:05:46] I've been talking about what's happening at the universities. There's a million ways I would spend that money. >> Speaker 1: Wow. Put it up full mass. Here's what's about to happen. Owens has since announced that she will be sitting down for [00:06:01] an exclusive interview with the former Fox News host, Tucker Carlson that will be released this evening. Quote, what an honor, she remarked about the forthcoming conversation, which she said would leave no topic off limits. [00:06:18] So that's how they kind of sell it. The choice of Carlson's platform on X as the place to air her grievance or grievances is notable given the fact that Shapiro has also blasted Carlson for [00:06:34] downplaying the Hamas October 7 attack in Israel and adopting a bizarre and ugly position that efforts to people to help Israel would lead to a broader regional war. [00:06:50] I reviewed a lot of Shapiro's commentary, he seems to be quite extreme on some of this stuff. And he's also been challenged on some of the things he said previous to this as it relates to the Palestine. So remember Palestinians, okay, let's be very clear. [00:07:08] Israel is not at war with Palestinians, they're just killing them. The government of Israel is killing Palestinians, saying this is the only way we can kill the terrorist Hamas, the group who attacked us because they're hiding in Palestine, [00:07:24] according to the narrative from Netanyahu. But if Hamas was hiding in Israel, they would not indiscriminately kill Israelis in order to find Hamas, there would be exacting precision. So you need to not actually catch Hamas in order to keep [00:07:44] the evil killing of innocent Palestinians going. And let's be very clear about the Palestinian population. They have one of the youngest demographic populations on the planet, [00:08:00] their median age is 19 years of age, 19.6 to be precise. 40% of their entire population is 14 years of age, 40% of the Gaza population is 14 years of age or under, okay? So those are the numbers. [00:08:17] We're talking about children, we're talking about children, all right? All right, Francesca, thoughts here. >> Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I think it's important to not get waylaid by these right wingers that are fighting. Look, Candace Owens might be right when she condemns genocide, but she absolutely is on a slippery slope to real anti-Semitism and you see that. [00:08:38] We don't need Candace Owens in the Palestine Liberation movement, we don't need Candace Owens in the ceasefire movement, we don't need all that. Just like I would argue, if you're supposedly for Israel, you shouldn't get the head of Christians for Israel, who ultimately said [00:08:54] that God sent Hitler down to earth in order to create the state of Israel. There are some strange bedfellows happening right now. All I would say is Ben Shapiro is a rabid anti-Arab racist and Candace Owens is sort of getting hip to that. [00:09:10] I mean, she, like many, many other people, is against indiscriminate killing of children. But I can only imagine that her going on Tucker Carlson's X show is both of them doing the exact thing that we who believe in Palestinian human rights and [00:09:25] Israeli human rights are warning not to do, which is basically engaging in real anti-Semitism. And where does it come from, people? Always the right, always is the right. It does not come from the left, criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic, it is from the likes of Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson. [00:09:42] >> Speaker 1: It is going to be an interesting saga in the next week or so after know segment comes out.