Is belief in anthropomorphic climate change a religion? It certainly is, according to former NBC talk show host Megyn Kelly and guest Michael Shellenberger, who during a recent episode of Kelly’s podcast argued that climate has become a means for environmentalists and their ilk to “feel morally superior” to others and to “show your superiority.” Which is how Kelly and Shellenberger, in their attempts to belittle and dunk on anyone concerned about climate change, unwittingly admitted that religion itself isn’t about belief or spirituality, but rather a justification for looking down on others.

In this clip Ana and Wosny discuss the slip from the right-winger podcasters, as well as the increasing threat climate change is posing across the globe, and in particular the likelihood of global water shortages and fires caused by widespread drought conditions. Wosny acknowledges that as a child of Haitians, he’s all too familiar with the faith community (albeit an atheist himself) but rejects Christianity as an imposition from slave owners on Africans as a means of subjugation and repression. But if conservatives are going to label climate activism a religion, he adds, then maybe environmentalists should lean into the designation, and demand all the privileges and rights currently granted to religious groups.

Ana then breaks down the “water wars” that are likely headed our way — an eventuality the investment and military communities clearly anticipate, as water is now being traded on commodity exchanges and the Pentagon has identified climate refugees fleeing drought as a serious national security threat.

Also covered in this clip:

• Right-wingers freak out about immigrants but have zero concern for the causes driving migration
• Just when conservatives like Megyn Kelly absolutely will start being worried about climate change
• How drought conditions play into the hands (and wallets) of disaster capitalists